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Nachman
27 Aug 09, 5:06pm

 

What I love about this site is unmoderated quotes like “Israel is an apartheid state” no facts no evidence just the statement. The very epithet of calling Israel an apartheid state is in fact a racist slur againt the Jews and is pure and simple anti-semitism. Those who repeat the mantra think that by using the word Israel they somehow are safe but since your false allegation is made against the Jews of the Jewish State it is as anti-Semitic as calling me a dirty Jew because that is what you mean.

 

Over one and half million Arabs live in Israel with the same right to vote as the Jews – what right to vote do Jews living in Jordan or Syria or Egypt have to vote – oh silly me the Jews were ethnically cleansed from Jordan Egypt Syria etc etc and will be from any future Palestinian State should one ever be formed so which side adopts racist apartheid policies?

Or what about “Israel has stolen Palestinian land” – who are the “Palestinians” this claim is made about and what country was it that that has been stolen from? No facts, no evidence. Was there ever a separate Arab nation before Arafat and Nasser called them Palestinian in 1964? Was the land to the West of the Jordan ever a sovereign state called Palestine. Consult your history books. Making up lies and getting useful muppets to repeat them as loud and as often as you like does not make them the truth.

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  1. Louise, what we need to bear in mind always that these people are of limited intelligence and mouth what they read or are told without thinking about it.

    CiF lets them do so which loops into what Medusa said in her article. The continued repetition, when it falls on fertile “hater” ground, takes root and then has a life of its own.

    For myself, I’ve given up arguing with such idiots and with trying to fathom the rationale behind the site which gives them support.

    I am glad of CiFWatch

    Are you going to keep an eye on Nachman’s post and let us know if it is deleted and after how long?

  2. This post certainly won’t be deleted but it is a must to read because it is a perfect representation of the falsification of history by an “anti-Zionist” poster Afgano:

    “Where did you get this info from?
    How was it that the Jews and the Muslims have been together in every single joint venture since taking Makka?

    They ruled El Andalus together

    Salah ud Din could not have taken Jerusalem without full Jewish support?

    Osmanli (What the Britanicos somehow call Ottoman) was also a Muslim- Jewish joint venture.

    The Jews and the Muslims have lived together through all these centuries, they can happily live together. (as one of my girlfriends noted, ages ago, that you can not tell the difference between the two even in a naked identity parade)

    They were forced to leave most of the countries they were living in since they were hit by this strange bout of Herzlitis – some also call it Zionitis.”

    This person never ever heard of the pogroms in Andalusia, Damascus etc. well before the beginnings of Zionism? About the dhimmithude? I doubt it. I’m sure s/he knows about it but conveniently left them out from his history lesson.

  3. @hakunamatata your post above, about Afgano, sounds as if Afgano is afflicted with the usual “Protocolitis” of ignorant Muslims.

  4. “Israel is an apartheid State.; the apartheid Wall, Israel is racist; Zionism = racism” – and so on.

    Do you honestly think that CiF will put a stop to ignorance and prejudice ? You know and I know that many posters are antisemitic and can get away with outright lies as long as they say ‘Israel’ rather than ‘Jews’.

    No matter how many times historians and Israelis on CiF demolish the argument showing with facts that Israel is not racist or an apartheid State, the word has stuck. Along with ‘terrorist State’ and ‘stealing Palestinian land’. Israel is just too useful as scapegoat, I’m afraid.

    CiF is not about careful arguments backed up with real evidence.
    Getting upset with them is like being frustrated when you’ve finally managed to overtake a slow driver, and then a mile later, another slow driver pulls out in front of you. Idiots and racists are two a penny on CiF.
    Either you find a better debating site to defend Israel’s case, or you just have to poke fun at them. Sometimes, mimicking their style of writing while showing up their faulty logic, or else questioning their motives will do the trick. Muslims one can understand, but Westerners ,with no direct stake in the Israel-Arab dispute, who spend days and days attacking Israel are clearly antisemitic and should be challenged. Especially when they start questioning the right of Israel to exist.

    Personally, I’ve stopped trying now but am glad that others have taken up the fight.

  5. How long before we find on CiF another defense of Iran’s right to develop nuclear weapons – because of course Israel has them too?

    It’s been reported that the President of Iran and the Supreme Leader both share a belief in the imminent return of the Hidden Imam. The question remains, are they more concerned with their own people in the present day, or could they be fanatic enough to bring about an Armageddon to hasten the Final Coming?

    America and the West should be very careful not to back the Iranian régime into a corner. With nothing left to lose, their only option would be like Israel’s Samson option – i.e. – suicide would actually seem to be in their best interests. Paradise for them and Hell for the Zionists.

  6. Micha – How long before we find on CiF another defense of Iran’s right to develop nuclear weapons – because of course Israel has them too?

    One of the manifestations of the sickness that the extreme, detached from reality, left suffer from is the identifying with persons or political movements which, although the anti thesis of the left, are embraced because they are anti US/West.

    They can be misogynist.

    They can be murderous.

    They can be violently anti gay.

    But they will be treated as ‘kosher’ because of their anti West ‘credentials’.

    I refer you to ‘Whats Left’ by Nick Cohen.

  7. Mica – America and the West should be very careful not to back the Iranian régime into a corner. With nothing left to lose, their only option would be like Israel’s Samson option – i.e. – suicide would actually seem to be in their best interests. Paradise for them and Hell for the Zionists.

    America and the West are not thinking along the lines of destroying Iran. They are thinking how to destroy the lunatic Ayatollahs and their minions (Achmedinejad).

    Israel is not thinking of destroying Iran. It is thinking of destroying its nuclear military potential.

    Neither the West, America or Israel regard the Iranian people as it’s enemy. They each see the ruling thugs as the target.

    Much as they saw Saddam Hussien and his thugs as the target in Iraq.

  8. Just went back to CiF to catch up on a post by Inayat Bunglawala and lo and behold, an innocuous post of mine has been deleted.

    What did I write? How he could be asking for special treatment for Islamophobia in the UK, when his organisation, the Muslim Council of Britain, affiliated with the Regent’s Park Mosque, disclaimed any responsibility for vile anti-Semitic literature that the tv programme Dispatches uncovered when it made its notorious film.

    And for that, I am deleted.

    BTW, Bunglawala seems to be missing from your list of CiF Contributors – I would have thought that he would be a prime candidate for inclusion.

  9. Poetic justice. Today, Weds 2nd September at about 3.25pm, technical trouble hit CiF so no-one can comment on the website – I can’t help but smile.

    There may be a huge movement here onto CiF Watch as a result. Someone will probably think you guys had a hand in it!

    Naughty, naughty.