Guardian

Freedman – Derailed by Chutzpah and Ignorance


This is a guest post by AKUS

Freedman is back – after being consigned to the Siberia of CiF Belief, Freedman returned to his favorite topic – the evils of Israelis and their dastardly plans to occupy even more of the West Bank in an article condemning the plan to build a light rail commuter system in Jerusalem.

Freedman takes care, of course, in his usual hyperbolic and turgid prose, to give the naïve reader who knows nothing about Jerusalem or the West Bank, the impression that this is yet another new and vast expansion of settlement activity deep into occupied territory:

“The architects of Israel’s occupation of the West Bank are highly skilled at the art of needlework, deftly stitching up land inside Israel proper and disputed territory over the Green Line as though it was the most natural thing in the world.”

What has caught his eye this time is what he tries to cast as an incredibly evil Zionist plan to build – oh, horrors!! – a “green” urban light rail connection running from Mt. Herzl (more or less south of the Old City) and for about 5 km from the center of Jerusalem to a couple of suburbs, French Hill (HaGivah HaTzarfatit) and Pisgat Ze’ev to relieve the incredible congestion on the roads leading to those popular suburbs. Ultimately, it will have a total length of 22 km, according to the planning document, from Ein Kerem in the south to Neve Ya’akov in the North.

To give an indication of the distances involved in the section from downtown to the two suburbs Freedman is complaining about, I have added the attached map, erasing some of the many roads that densely pack that area for clarity. The more distant suburb, Pisgat Ze’ev, lies all of about 5 or 6 km from the city center and both suburbs are ALREADY CONNECTED by a congested web of roads to the rest of Jerusalem.

pisgat zeev - Google Maps copy.jpg

According to a planning document via a link provided by Freedman in an attempt to demonstrate the full iniquity of the scheme, this evil attempt to occupy even more of the West Bank has the following dreadful purposes:

• To encourage use of mass transportation;

• To promote operational efficiency and economic feasibility;

• Renewal and development of the city center;

• To reduce noise and air pollution;

• To bring pedestrians and businesses back to the city’s center;

• To relieve traffic congestion throughout the city

Never mind that these desirable goals are typical of those driving urban development in major cities around the world –only a sick mind could use this people-friendly initiative as yet another attempt to blacken Israel’s name.

Freedman’s own chutzpah comes to the fore when he does his best to mislead the reader into thinking that this is some new conspiratorial attempt to occupy additional territory on the WB:

“All that is required is a healthy dose of chutzpah, combined with a drip-drip effect in which a steady stream of expropriating activities are undertaken at a slow but relentless pace, in the hope that insufficient feathers are ruffled to put a halt to the overarching campaign of annexation…

Under the guise of a desire to ease traffic congestion on Jerusalem’s streets, the project bears all the hallmarks of previous efforts to stake a permanent and intractable claim to areas that once might have been considered as appropriate territory to concede as part of a permanent settlement with the Palestinians.”

Despite the impression Freedman tries to give, these are not new “settlements”, and there is nothing new about linking them to downtown Jerusalem – all that will be done is to provide alternative transport options to the citizens. The rail system will simply add a more eco- and people friend alternative transport system to relieve the horrendous road congestion between those suburbs and the downtown Jerusalem. This rail link adds nothing to settlement activity on the West Bank, and runs between long settled, existing suburbs connected to Jerusalem by major road arteries that Israel has repeatedly said are not negotiable and which were annexed by Israel in 1980.

There has never been the slightest intention on Israel’s part, whether Freedman or “the world” thinks this is wrong, to “concede” French Hill or Pisgat Zeev as part of a permanent agreement with the Palestinians, and it is foolish (or worse) to try to mislead the Guardian’s readers into thinking otherwise. Construction in French Hill began in 1969. I stayed with friends there in 1972 or 1973 when it was already a densely occupied suburb. It lies about 3 congested kilometers from the Old City and Central Jerusalem, a stone’s throw, so to speak, from Mt Scopus, and about 1 km at most over the Green Line. Pisgat Zeev was built between 1982 – 1985, and a quick search on Wiki gives the population as 50,000.

Of course, there will be those like Freedman who claim that even if these suburbs were built 1 mm over the old Green Line, let alone 1 km, that is 1 mm too much. Realistically, however, it is clear to all that these suburbs will remain part of Israel in the event that an agreement is ever reached with the Palestinians. Moreover, the impression that Freedman tries to give, of remote and geographically large areas, is, of course, totally false, as you can see from the map or by looking at maps of the area on-line.

Freedman calls for massive opposition to this railway, as if, without French Hill and Givat Zeev the Palestinians will never be able to form a state:

“…all interested parties should be doing their utmost to oppose anything that further cements an Israeli presence in the area. To sit back and do nothing is to be complicit with the insidious plans of those who seek never to accommodate Palestinian needs in terms of their statehood.”

As usual, the Guardian’s sub-head editors are only too eager to help take his plea for opposition a step further:

“The Jerusalem light railway is set to link to illegal settlements such as French Hill. Palestinians need help stopping it”

Perhaps the reason for Freedman’s ire is that this light rail system will only serve Jewish residents of the area and the Palestinians will not benefit? Not so, in fact.

Freedman, never shy about tooting his own horn, gives a link to one of his own articles from a year ago in which he wrote that Arabs are moving into French Hill without noticing the irony in the use of his own words:

“The district of French Hill, which is technically over the Green Line but in reality bears little resemblance to the typical “settlement” stereotype, has seen a steep rise in the number of Arabs seeking to move into its neighbourhood in recent years. Not wanting to be caught on the “wrong” side of the security wall, many Arab families have sought homes on the Israeli side of the barrier, in order to ensure their Israeli IDs aren’t revoked, as well as to avoid hours-long delays at checkpoints as they commute to and from work.”

Thus, this rail system will serve Arabs and Jews alike, who live in the mixed community of French Hill (and its sister community of Tzameret Habira, which is also experiencing an influx of Arab families, according to friends who live there) as well as ultra-orthodox trying to escape from the congestion of other suburbs.

The duplicity exhibited by Freedman in his latest attempt to blacken Israel’s name in the English press by taking advantage of the limited knowledge of the area that most CiF readers have was well summed up by this comment on the accompanying thread:

GaryWilson

26 Nov 2009, 5:33PM

Will someone please tell me what the point of this article is?

That Israel reunited Jerusalem forty years ago, and Seth Freedman just found out?

That Israel formally annexed the eastern part of the city that had been occupied by Jordan, and that the city has been subject to Israeli law for 30 years and Freedman just found that out?

That most countries do not recognize Israel’s annexation though they do recognize the de facto Israeli jurisdiction of the city, and Freedman has just found that out?

That Jerusalem is the most holy city in Judaism, and under Israeli rule has been open, for the first time in centuries, to worship by Jews, Moslems and Christians. and Freedman probably doesn’t know that?

That Jews have pined for centuries for their return to their holy city, the ancient capital of Israel, and Freedman must have known that for years?

That Jerusalem is the seat of Israel’s parliament, its government, it’s ministries and offices, and is therefore its capital, and Freedman must know that?

And that the Municipality of Jerusalem has been constructing the city for the past 40 years, during which the city’s population has grown by 350 percent, and the proportion of Arabs in the city has grown from 26.5% in 1967 to 30.5% in 2005, and Freedman probably doesn’t know this..

That despite all this, previous Israeli governments (under prime ministers Olmert and Barak) indicated a willingness to share Jerusalem with a future Palestinian state by handing Arab East Jerusalem over to the Palestinians, but the Palestinians have rejected the offer, and Freedman has yet to discover that?

So, considering all of this, what exactly is Freedman’s point?

[emphasis added]

Well, Gary – the point is that this despicable “as-a-Jew” will use any stick, no matter how feeble, to try to whip up  adulation from his one-time supporters, who are getting more and more disenchanted with his bias, pathetic commentary, and irrelevancy. Unfortunately for him and his dreams, his articles are increasingly ignored by those tired of him and his moaning, griping, whining, and hatred for anything and everything to do with Israel.

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  1. Freedman hasn’t got points,there is one sharp point though,and he is sitting on it.(BTW did a palestinian taxi driver write his last article for him)

    His friend MaryinInEurope is back,posting his usual anti-Israeli clap-trap on the neri zilber thread,the same MIE,who never read a seth post that he didn’t like.Some people have red noses,this martin has a brown one.

  2. The light rail in Jerusalem, as is the one in Tel Aviv, is the subject of long bureaucratic and operational delays, not uncommon to Israel, sadly. In Jerusalem it meant making the traffic worse, as long as construction continues. And the idea that is cumbersome public project is a part of a sophisticated conspiracy is silly in the eyes of every Israeli. With Seth Freedman I guess we can add paranoia and desperation.

  3. Freedman must be a happy author – he has a real fan club. The fact that his supporters have some interesting opinion about Jews and their future existence doesn’t seem to disturb him.

    12pins
    26 Nov 2009, 6:58PM
    The more the Israelis continue to steal land reserved for a viable Palestianian the state the more likely there will be just 1 state, and for most if not all Israelis that would be the final nail in the coffin to their “jewish homeland”

    Excellent article as always Seth.

    To paraphrase the famous saying of Vespasianus – supporters don’t smell.

  4. Right AKUS you can see why they banned you. I just kept thinking ”ouch” for poor old Seth as each of your comments hit home.

    However he deserves them richly for his never-ending search for something to lambaste Israel with. I can picture him walking angrily down the streets of Jaffa looking for offending stones to kick picking out one that looks Israeli while avoiding one that looks particularly Arab. His trouble is, being an Israeli city, there just aren’t many stones to kick in the street. So he has to turn his ire on the light railway and the suburbs of Jerusalem.

    The suburb question goes like this.
    If there are mainly Arabs in the suburb we are told it is Palestinian but we very carefully are not told that it is mainly Arab because the Jews were ethnically cleansed from there by Jordan in 1948 and their homes and lands were stolen from them and reallocated to Arabs by Jordan or the ever-generous UN. (When I say ethnically cleansed please realise that not one single Jewish person was allowed to remain alive in their holiest city -when will Seth write about the results of that action and its legality?)

    However if the suburb is mainly occupied by Hebrew speaking Jews we are told that it is a settlement – even though it is a fullyfledged urban area over 40 years old the absurdity persists. Seth tells us that Gilo is ”deep” in Palestinian land and this is just a lack of knowledge on his part, poor thing because a look at the map shows us something directly contrary to that. Even the Geneva Accords (from which the map is taken) agreed that Gilo would be Israeli. Our Seth oversteps the mark here again.

    For Seth there is no arguing the merits of both sides.

  5. It’s interesting that this light railway has been in the making for around a decade if one includes the planning stages and the fact that it is vastly over schedule, yet only now does the keyboard warrior wake up to its existence. Interestingly, some others seem to have had a similarly belated enlightenment – the BDS mob have selected the project as a target for their recent campaigns.
    Nice company he keeps that Mr. Freedman.

  6. peterthehungarian – as you can see from the comment you noted, he succeeded in fooling at least one sucker into beliveing that these are new “settlements”

    Israelinurse – I missed the direct connection to the BDS movement, though it was clear he called, yet again, for a boycott of Israel. How shameful both he and the supporters of that disgusting group are in opposing a project like this one. And what chutzpah – imagine the outcry if Israel organized a campaign against a light rail system in any city in the world.

    They will simply have to accept that Israel means what it says and Jerusalem will stay part of Israel, whatever the final outcome of the Palestinian issue is. They are in denial about the obvious.

  7. Looks like AKUS had a lot of fun writing this, and it looks like Seth is in a competition with himself: how can I write my most ridiculous post??? I have to try harder… GaryWilson’s comment says it very well.
    Rather revealing that the BDS crowd would even target a green project like this one — and apparently, the subheader writers at Cif are on board: yeah, right, the Palestinians need help in obstructing an eco-friendly project!!! Hurray — nobody can blame us for not getting our priorities right…right…bit more right…oh, such nice company on the far right…so many like-minded people…everybody agrees on Israel…

  8. Richard – interesting …

    Advertising sales revenue is down some 60 percent from last year, [the Daily Planet’s editor] Ms. O’Malley says.

    Hmmm – gives me some ideas about how to deal with another paper and its editor ….

    Israelinurse – can you give me a reference to the BDS attempt to boycott the companies providing equipment for the Jerusalem Light rail project?

    If those companies advertise in the Guardian, they might be interested to know who the paper is supporting with their advertising dollars… and its not them!! I might just write them a letter ….

  9. Seth Freedman made a deal with the Guardian years ago. In return for allowing them to use him to deny they are anti-Semitic (“How can we be anti-Semites when Seth is Jewish?”) he will create an endless stream of Israel bashing for the Guardian. His articles are poorly written, often unoriginal, and repetitive but it does not matter to the Guardian. Seth provides them with cover and that’s all they care about. Today’s article is once again filled with nonsense. This pattern turns up in numerous newspapers now. Roger Cohen fills this role at the New York Times. He infamouisly wrote that Iranian Jews love the situation there and live in blessed comfort. Like Seth Freedman, Roger Cohen know that his value to the NY Times is to provide a shield because of his Jewish ancestry. Like Freedman this is a price he will pay for a paycheck. How sad and demeaning.

  10. Margie wrote: “..For Seth there is no arguing the merits of both sides…”

    I can see what you mean in respect of any other intelligent person who holds a certain position and sticks to it like glue regardless of arguments to the contrary, but we are talking Seth Freedman here aren’t we?

    I mean, this numpty changes his mind as often as the wind changes direction, and according to what he thinks the Henry coven and gallery he is playing to want to hear.

    I would argue that he continually prostitutes his values but he has no values to speak of, except to get back at the Israel which showed him up for the hollow wind bag and whinger he was during his military service.

    Even the ISM wants nothing to do with him. What does that say?

  11. AKUS, this is an excellent article, measured and factual, which is more than one can say about Freedman’s.

    I heard a rumour that he lived in French Hill once upon a time.

    Chas N-B what exactly IS a multi-year comedown? If it means what I think it means then it begs the question as to why as to why al-Grauniad bothers to commission Freedman’s articles. Does anyone have any ideas as to why they continue to do so, given that the articles are such crap?

    May I suggest that we have a competition, with the prize of recognition on CifWatch, to the poster who comes up with the most creative reason?

  12. Thanks for the perspective, AKUS. I’m one of those that is increasingly ignoring his articles. I didn’t read this one either.

  13. Richard

    Excellent article in your blog. Lets also not forget that Obama attended a church for twenty years that honored Louis Farrakhan who is a well known antisemite and bigot. The Reverend Wright, himself, made public antisemitic comments during the Presidential campaign which are certainly a reflection of his racist views of Jews.

    The liberal media is not free of blame in the US. Any comments that can be construed to be racist are rightly attacked by the media, but the connection between Barack Obama and the antisemitic church he attended for twenty years was swept under the rug. The media was invested in the historical and political election of the President. As you mention in your blog, Jews are viewed as powerful (no longer victims) and this might be part of the reason that there was no outrage(?).

    Regardless of whether its in Europe or in America, the dominant liberal/left wing media views antisemitism much differently than in the past.

    This doesn’t mean that Barack is an antisemite, but I would feel comfortable in saying that Barack reflects the European view, namely, that the Palestinians are the victims of the powerful Jewish state.

  14. Not wanting to be caught on the “wrong” side of the security wall, many Arab families have sought homes on the Israeli side of the barrier, in order to ensure their Israeli IDs aren’t revoked

    So, many Arab families prefer being Israeli to being Palestinian?

    I CHALLENGE THE GUARDIAN-STURMER AND ITS COTERIE OF ANTI-SEMITIC MANAGEMENT AND AUTHORS TO PRINT AN HONEST ARTICLE ABOUT WHY THIS IS SO.

  15. Yohoho

    I would argue that he continually prostitutes his values but he has no values to speak of, except to get back at the Israel which showed him up for the hollow wind bag and whinger he was during his military service. Even the ISM wants nothing to do with him. What does that say?

    Very interesting. Would you please elaborate on these two points? (Sick Frogman brags about his military endeavours.)

  16. Hi Tom, thanks. I don’t think that Obama is necessarily anti-semetic. However as you pointed out his history in the church and Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s gospel, together with his relationship with Bill Ayers from the weather underground without doubt help form his opinions about Israel and the Palestinians. We can all clearly see this in his approach to Israel and willingness only to speak in front of those Israelis he believes support him (at Rabin’s memorial). We can also see this in his approach to the american jewish groups.

    I personally believe there’s a strong possibility he had a hand in the creation of JStreet in his usual grass movemements ways to create a facade of concensus and build support for his personal agenda in the middle east. Unfortunately this has stifled vocal support among American Jews who may be weary of openly criticizing the president or his policies. Additionally the American Jews themselves have undergone a significant change as you can read about in this article in the JPost http://bit.ly/8VO0zg, in which he describes how the opinion of American Jews might be changing. I know many reformed american Jewish leaders, and from what I can see they are taking a back seat, concentrating more on their communities and staying out of the fray. And unfortunately as I mentioned in the blog, this is encouraging those of the persuasion that now is the time to attack Israel, in the media, on the campuses, etc. And its a phenomenon that is becoming more and more mainstream in the US.

  17. Tom, sorry, wrong link. This is the correct one. http://bit.ly/4snUen

    I’m specifically relating to what he says about addressing two separate audiences. he has a very valid point in that the younger generation has been raised with the media parroting the academic left and portraying Israel as the aggressor.

  18. Richard

    “……I know many reformed american Jewish leaders, and from what I can see they are taking a back seat, concentrating more on their communities and staying out of the fray. And unfortunately as I mentioned in the blog, this is encouraging those of the persuasion that now is the time to attack Israel, in the media, on the campuses, etc. And its a phenomenon that is becoming more and more mainstream in the US…..”

    Americans have a very positive view of Jews (relative to most places in Europe), yet there is an undercurrent of anti Israel activity that’s gaining momentum – and we can see the results in Europe. As you say, things can change. Thanks, and thanks for the link to your blog.

  19. SickFrogman, try this from CiFWatch itself, which is where I first read it:

    October 30, 2009 at 7:29 am

    neverending

    “I tried to find out more about this hero and his heroic deeds in this elite unit that he claims that he served in,I looked up HP and discovered somene who served with him.And these are his words.

    “I knew Freedman from the army,We were both lone soldiers in the Nachal Brigade.He was a whiny bitch then and he is a whiny bitch today.Ask anybody who served with him.I’m not here to debate the policies and practices of the Israeli Government or the army of which I personally have many problems with as well.All I’m saying is that the guy barely served and yet he presents himself as an expert on the IDF.Beleive what you want,just always check your source of information.”

    “There you have it Israelinurnse (I like your name)this is from someone who served with him.It should give you an insight into this guy who professes to be an expert on all things IDF and Israel in general.
    As for me I smelled a rat the minute I read one of his threads.”

  20. Sorry, forgot to reference the ISM bit

    These two, also from CiFWatch:

    November 22, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    Armanitoarmy

    From Armani to Army,from cokehead to dickdead,from the Guardian CiF hero to zero.

    Seth wanted to join the ISM ,but was refused membership,because they only accept refusniks or draft dodgers.But he did get extensive logistical support and help from them in the West Bank.

    The people at “Heathlander,The contrition of Seth Freedman” aren’t too enamored with him either.

    November 23, 2009 at 12:15 am

    AKUS

    Armanitoarmy

    Thanks for revealing that Freedman has not only supported ISM in his articles, but has received support from them and now they have turned on him – its always dangerous hunting with hyenas.

    This may also explain his sudden change of heart regarding support for Bilin, and his less frequent trips int othe Heart of Darkness, aka the WB.

    The following poster, an ISM member, posting on the Heathlander blog apparently objects strongly to Freedman for his temporary support of Cast Lead, as does Heathlander:

    http://heathlander.wordpress.com/2009/02/01/the-contrition-of-seth-freedman/

    Asa on February 2, 2009 said:
    Excellent article, thanks a lot.

    I haven’t paid that much attention to him recently, though I did see a very silly one he did a couple of weeks ago condemning those who advocate BDS against Israel.

    This record, however, is much worse than that tactical question: active support for the massacres. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. We in ISM have actually given him some logistical support and help in the West Bank (although we refused his request to join the ISM, considering he was still a reservist at that time (Israelis have joined ISM but only refusniks or avoiders)).

    After this, I’ve just sent an internal ISM email circulating your post and recommending we refuse him any future such help he requests.

  21. Were the rail link not being built, Seethe’s article would have been ……

    “Racist Zionists deny Arab citiizens essential transport”
    While busily constructing transport infrastucture in the West Bank,Israel is refusing to improve transport in an area with an increasing proportion of Arab residents.All interested parties should be doing their utmost to ensure that this racist discrimination,clearly designed to ethnically cleanse the area of any Arab presence………(etc etc ad nauseum)

  22. jon – great comment! And, of course, like all good satire, with more than an element of truth!!

    I just returned from the Washington Newseum, the museum dedicated to the history of news. Its very strong on freedom of expression, free speech, etc. and is probably now the best museum in DC – very multi-media, great historical exhibits, and amazing 4-D theater (the 4th dimension is that the seats move when appropriate).

    The Guardian staff should be dragged through it kicking and screaming to educate them about the benefits of free speech..

  23. TomWonacott – thanks – I have generally tried to focus on correcting the numerous errors (and outright lies) published by CiF’s stable of israel-bashers in the hope of somehow changing the perception they provide of Israel rather tan wasting too many words directed at Freedman himself.

    In the two years or so I’ve followed this miserable writer, I can’t think of a time he mentioned any of the many incredible artistic performances that take place in Israel, the incredible growth in science and technology, the increasing number of Nobel prize winners (which the Guardian ‘accidentally on purpose” leaves off its lists, the incredible vitality of life there, the enormous literature that produces more books than the entire output of the Arab world, etc. etc. More than anything else it shows his bias, and as always, one has to wonder why he doesn;y just pack up and leave.

    All we get is this distorted rubbish, in this case, apparently acting as a front for the BDS movement, and verging essentially on lies intended to mislead the lazy CiFers, who never actually check things out for themselves. I am left wondering if he gets paid for this support of BDS as well? Is there any way to research that?

  24. Israelinurse – thanks for the link.

    At http://www.bdsmovement.net/?q=node/461they even provide a map of the route and their “successes” in causing harm to the two companies involved.

    Clearly, Jewish communities around the world have been asleep about this – I certainly had no idea.

    But its also time to alert the companies about any advertising in the Guardian.

  25. AKUS, do you think Freedman ever checks anything out for himself?

    If he tapped the ISM for its support, then I wouldn’t be surprised if he tapped the BDS movement as well.

    And yes you are right. There should be a campaign to inform Guardian advertisers about this.

  26. links like the one supplied by Israelinurse are already out there in the public blogosphere meanwhile a lot of “anti Zionist activists” “share resources” by congregating on “invitation only” blogs like this one advertised by CIF’s Cath Elliot on her own blog –

    http://contemplating-from-gaza.blogspot.com/

    Makes you wonder what it is these people have to say they don’t want the likes of you and me to hear.

  27. Thanks SickFrogman, that was a good but somewhat discouraging article.

    AKUS – You do a great job of presenting Seth’s material in a different light. It would be interesting if your article was posted next to Seth’s article in the Guardian. Of course, we wouldn’t be here on CIF Watch if fairness was the basis for Guardian commentary.

    It wouldn’t be surprising if Seth was on the payroll of the BDS. His articles always put Israel into a bad light – most of the times on the issue of Palestinian and Jewish relations. He supports targeted sanctions which could gain support (already have to a limited extent), and targeted sanctions could morph into full blown sanctions. Finding out if he is on the payroll of BDS would be interesting, but I’m not sure what the best approach is to finding that information.

  28. NoCloakNoDaggar, yes.

    @AKUS – I did a little searching, and look what I found lifted from CiF and reproduced on:

    http://www.bigcampaign.org/index.php?mact=CGBlog,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=100&cntnt01returnid=72

    I am not sure whether they need CiF’s permission to post this, but it seems unlikely that they would do so without at least informing Freedman.

    And I believe that it’s unlikely he’d agree unless they paid him, although I cannot prove that they did.

    All this goes to show that in spite of what he wrote at

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jan/24/israelandthepalestinians-internationaltrade

    (which presumably was to keep his Israeli part sweet) this worm hasn’t really turned, has it?

  29. Yohoho

    Interesting find. Regardless of whether they pay him, they certainly love his articles.

    Do you think they will post yours, AKUS?

  30. Seth Freedman clearly gets the daily talking points from his anti-Israel masters and just repeats them. He hasn’t had anything original to say in years, if ever. If you look at the anti-Israel web sites you know what Sethie will be writing tomorrow. The good news is that his writing is so boring that nobody ever finishes his inane articles.

  31. Yohoho – maybe it’s a case of ‘Brothers in Arms’ – don’t forget that another CiFer, Greenstein, is a BIG boycott bigwig.
    I’d love to know who funds BIG, BDS, PSC. There’s a hell of a lot of money being put into these campaigns and it would be very interesting to find out exactly where it’s coming from.
    Akus – I first became aware of the BDS/ Jerusalem railway connection a couple of years ago when I was having a bit of a one-woman spat with my local PSC and whilst doing a bit of research, found out that the Irish PSC had persuaded the Irish not to train the Israeli train drivers. They seem to have stepped up the campaign lately though.

  32. Yohoho – not everything is going their way. In fact, they seem a little disappointed:

    http://www.bigcampaign.org/index.php?mact=CGBlog,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=97&cntnt01returnid=72

    Veolia and Alstom continue to abet Israel’s rights violations
    24 11 2009
    Alstom / Veolia

    Despite mounting pressure to withdraw from the light rail project in Jerusalem designed to serve the needs of Israel’s illegal settlements, the French transportation giant Veolia is set to be highly involved in the project for the next five years.

    ———–

    Alstom provides the rolling stock for Washington’s Metro system – I will be keeping an eye on their latest contract from this point on and if necessary, writing to Congress

  33. Israelinurse – I am a great believer in “follow the money”and I have yet to come across a case where Freedman did not expect to get paid for his “efforts” including his miserable scribblings on CiF and his failed books.

    I wonder if there is any way to get whole of accounts etc. to see if that’s the case here.

  34. Israelinurse – sorry – spellchecker gone wild:

    I wonder if there is any way to get hold of accounts etc. to see if that’s the case here.

  35. Google ads strikes again. Often good for a laugh!

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  36. Freedman simply does not have enough fresh material to fill his allures space so in desperation he resorts to this trivia. He is allowed ny his paymasters at the Guardian to write about only one topics: Israel’s supposed sins against humanity. Freedman can not write about Israeli doctors And hospitals who treat desperately I’ll children from Gaza. He does not want to anyway but he is not allowed to. Freedman is not allowed to write about any good deed done by any Israeli. So Freedman is left with writing a boring column about a clean energy rail system that extends to Mount Scopus, which was always part of Israel. But I suppose that Freedman will say that Hebrew University is a right wing plot too.

  37. “”””Israeli ex-soldier shares insight into occupation””””

    Seth Freedman was interviewed by Press TV,a certain Fareena Alam interviewed him.If you think that this Seth Freedman couldn’t sink any lower,than you have another think coming.

  38. Thanks for the reference armanitoarmy:

    You would think that Seth as a would-be journalist would have better control of concepts. Discussing the fact that people come from all over the world to join Tsahal, he says
    “This does leave Israel open to the accusation that it is in fact employing mercenaries – particularly with regards to the volunteer corp who never actually take up Israeli citizenship.”

    Mercenaries are people who fight for the money. Considering that the Israeli soldier receives less than a thousand dollars a month for his services I would call this a bit of deliberate misdirection if it is not ignorance

    I wonder how the interviewer felt about Israelis being free to express disagreement with the government’s policies knowing that no harm will befall them, considering that she is Iranian I wonder whether her government allows her the same public freedom.

    The real stinger came in this statement
    Press TV: Do you see a double-standard in the way British Muslims who allegedly travel to fight in foreign conflicts, are treated, compared to British Jews serving in Israel?

    Freedman: If you’re asking if it’s a double-standard just to focus on British Muslims and not British Jews, then definitely there is a double-standard.

    Hey! British Muslims who fight in foreign conflicts (ie for the Taliban) are fighting against British troops while Israelis are fighting to defend themselves – against terrorists. Ignorance again? Seth, you do need a lot of fact checking don’t you?

  39. Akus – re. ‘follow the money’ – me too. Unfortunately, none of the above are either public bodies or registered charities, which as far as I’m aware makes it very difficult, at least in the UK. I don’t know what the laws about such things are in the US, but I did find that the PSC had received money from the Ford Foundation. No surprise there of course-they have repeatedly funded a whole load of other anti-Israeli organisations, as is well documented on their website.

  40. Before cifwatch took up Seth’s challenge of boycott he used to get many more comments, children. He generally received more than 200 comments and it was not unknown for his articles to reap bonanzas of over 400 comments.

    He isn’t very popular any more, is he?

  41. Poor little mamas boy,has lost his way,and attaches himself to any fringe group that will accept him.That even a group like the ISM rejected him says something about this character.

  42. Margie, I wonder whether the hits have gone down because he’s lost his ISM support?

    So many of the anti-Israel posts on CiF read as if they have been lifted straight out of some sort of ISM propaganda handbook, and are regurgitated by the masses there who haven’t bothered about making their views sound as if they themselves have thought them through.