Guardian

From the absurd to the asinine


From comparisons to the Exodus we now have this, a comparison to Noah’s Ark.

I kid you not.

Well such a grotesque distortion really should not come as a surprise when Martin Rowson is the author of this cartoon (from 2006).

As Tom Gross commented back then:

Once liberal British newspaper, The Guardian, has, like much other coverage of Israel in the British media, a virulence which is hard to distinguish from outright anti-Semitism. This cartoon by Martin Rowson (July 19, 2006) is arguably anti-Semitic. Here Stars of David are being used as knuckle dusters on a bloody fist to both punch a young boy and to crush George Bush, the American president.

I guess if comparisons are to be made, then there’s always this:

Update

Here’s a sample comment inspired by Rowson’s imagery:


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  1. I think the Guardian has gone way too far.

    Surely there are laws against hate speech that can be brought against them for this racist cartoon? The comments reflect the content (except for the one’s condemning the cartoon which are being deleted as fast as the moderator can hit the delete button).

    They are real filth.

  2. Clearly the Guardian despises its readers, sure in the knowledge that they know nothing and remember nothing.

  3. Hawkeye

    “This cartoon by Martin Rowson (July 19, 2006) is arguably anti-Semitic. Here Stars of David are being used as knuckle dusters on a bloody fist ”

    It is only “anti Semitic” because of the blurring of the symbol . There is a sliding scale of meaning for the Star…at one end the Star represents Israel …strong and confident and the other a single Jew ..weak and abused for centuries.

    The cartoon is leaden and OTT given what the UK was doing at the time.But…I repeat ..this is only ” anti Semitic” because of this often deliberate, blurring. IDF tanks are often seen with a flag …yet you would never call them ” Jewish “tanks.

  4. The cartoon that is right at the top.The people on that are there depicted as animals,and an Israeli soldier is trying to let them out.

    English cartoon are dark miserable and dumb they need to be explained.Cartoons are not quizzes.They should be self explanatory

    A good cartoon explains itself

  5. The only way to get the Guardian,is by legal means.We need a few good lawyers,to go through all the articles and posts and see which ones we can nail them on.

    On the Linda Grant thread,she thinks that Israel should be dismantled.

  6. benorr

    ..

    “.We need a few good lawyers,”

    In that case..” Its all over people” . You could find a lawyer…even a few lawyers… to back your cause ..but lets not shoot for the moon eh?

  7. The cartoon in itself is not necessarily offensive – it’s just illustrating one perspective.

    But that IS the problem with Rowson, Bell et al, i.e. they’re ALWAYS taking the one side … and it sure isn’t Israel’s …

  8. Can some one explain what was the reason to let people comment on that horrible cartoon? is there a meaningful reason or just to let people vent their filth about Israel .

  9. Heres to Davy.
    I am waiting for the day the Guardian will use a Muhammad cartoon to critic a Muslim state policies .
    ahh , that will never happen right?

  10. If Martin Rowson ever leaves the Guardian he’ll find a job in a major Arab newspaper in no time. They love that BLOOD motif-

    Star of David soaked in blood! Olmert in a tub of blood! We love it! more blood! blood! blood!

  11. Yeah, the kindest thing you can say is that it is ridiculous. Birds don’t go about provoking soldiers to kill them by setting about them with metal piping, staves or knives.

    I don’t recall Noah’s trying to run a military blockade to the end of allowing the government of one de facto state to do whatever it wants to further the end of its neighbour.

    But Noah is an emblem of Christian and Islamic righteousness, the rainbow peace, counterpoised to the allegedly gratuitously bloodthirsty Jewish state.

    Yes, I think it is antisemitic.

    But Christianity and Islamic have been anti-Jewish, in some form, or another, or antisemitic, for most of their histories. This is just a return to form.

    But at least the Israelis clearly got to survive the flood.

  12. pretzelberg

    But that IS the problem with Rowson, Bell et al, i.e. they’re ALWAYS taking the one side … and it sure isn’t Israel’s …

    Like The Guardian.

    Not Georgina’s infamous ‘Fair and Balanced’ at all.

  13. Berchmans, how dare you, who doesn’t blame Hamas for hating Jews now, tell us what is antisemitic and what isn’t?

    Being as unwitting a perpetrator of a/s as you are of other things, you wouldn’t know antisemitism if it gave you a kiss!

    And it probably does. Often.

    And don’t joke about legal action Berchmans…

  14. IDF tanks are often seen with a flag …yet you would never call them ” Jewish “tanks.

    The Spanish media do just that. The terms “tanques hebreos”, “gobierno judio” etc. are commonly used and mixed in with the use of “israelita” – all contrary to the advice given on correct usage by the Spanish Real Academia which dictates proper usage of Castillian.

    Of course Spain denies it’s antisemitic.

    I’ve posted on Spanish forums about this asking if it’s in order to talk about the Spanish armed forces as “Christian soldiers” or “Catholic tanks”. I’ve yet to receive a reply…

  15. By the way, that same Spanish media is now gleefully reporting on the Guardian’s latest from the Turkish coroners accusing the IDF of having executed those boat people at point blank range, in the back of the head and with special bullets.

    The Guardian’s poison is happily lapped up by antisemites the world over, not just in Islington…

  16. A bit of an olive branch in contrast to these vile cartoons? The Debka ticker says that Israel congratulates Iran on its responsible behaviour in relation to the Corrie. And contrasts it with Turkey’s response…

  17. Just to let you know, The Guardian form box has just let me know that my comments ‘will be held for moderation’. Care to look at my comments, and tell me why?

  18. Biodegradable
    Here are the autopsy results of the nine terrorists http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/04/gaza-flotilla-attack-autopsy-results

    Cengiz Alquyz, 42

    Four gunshot wounds: back of head, right side of face, back, left leg

    Ibrahim Bilgen, 60

    Four gunshot wounds: right chest, back, right hip, right temple

    Cegdet Kiliclar, 38

    One gunshot wound: middle of forehead

    Furkan Dogan, 19

    Five gunshot wounds: nose, back, back of head, left leg, left ankle

    Sahri Yaldiz

    Four gunshot wounds: left chest, left leg, right leg twice

    Aliheyder Bengi, 39

    Six gunshot wounds: left chest, belly, right arm, right leg, left hand twice

    Cetin Topcuoglu, 54

    Three gunshot wounds: back of head, left side, right belly

    Cengiz Songur, 47

    One gunshot wound: front of neck

    Necdet Yildirim, 32

    Two gunshot wounds: right shoulder, left back

  19. The original to this one was deleted

    heyhabib
    5 Jun 2010, 2:14PM

    ‘what we couldn’t see but the Israeli commander could was that he had been disembowled, his guts were hanging out. BBC World Service 1345 ‘

    Now, where would he fit in Rowson’s cartoon?

    Anywhere, his existence is as imaginary as any other.

  20. My response to this deleted:

    MartynInEurope
    5 Jun 2010, 11:43AM

    zacharyesterson

    5 Jun 2010, 11:37AM

    It’s ironic that Rowson is a Humanist. These cultural Christian anti-Jewish tropes run deep. One has at least to be grateful to Rowson for demonstrating that. …

    I may be blind to the obvious, but in what way is this cartoon evidence of a “cultural Christian anti-Jewish” trope?

  21. Arabella,

    the non-lethal shots to limbs suggests the soldiers were trying to disable, first.

  22. zkharya

    The moderators are only protecting a self-declared Zionist and well known Israel lover who simply doesn’t like Denis McShane and because of his dislike rants on CIF against the condemnation of Ahmadinejad. Read his pathetic whinings on Cifwatch (but before your dinner.)

  23. zkharya

    the non-lethal shots to limbs suggests the soldiers were trying to disable, first.

    If they used automatic rifle fire then this is the expected result. If they used handguns, a professional always shoots two-three-four bullets into the same target if s/he wants to be sure that her/his action will neutralize the opposition.

  24. Arabella; here’s the Google translation of the Spanish national TV web page:
    http://tinyurl.com/23kkupk

    See also the link “Manuel Tapial: “The ship became a real slaughterhouse”.

    He’s one of three Spanish “activists” who’s been given inordinate air time to spread lies and promote Hamas.

    Note also on that page the use of “Hebrew country” as I mentioned above.

    See also here:
    http://www.adl.org/main_Anti_Semitism_International/discourse-in-spain.htm?Multi_page_sections=sHeading_2

    A related problem was recognized by La Fundeu BBVA, an organization dedicated to Spanish language promotion and associated with the Royal Spanish Academy. On January 9, 2009, amid the reporting on Operation Cast Lead, it issued a press release which “reminds that the terms Hebrew, Jewish, and Israelite should not be used as synonyms for Israeli.” The release notes that “for this reason, in information referring to the conflict in the Gaza Strip, sentences like, ‘The Hebrew army continues the attack against Gaza’ are not correct…”

  25. ‘If they used handguns, a professional always shoots two-three-four bullets into the same target if s/he wants to be sure that her/his action will neutralize the opposition.’

    What if the target is moving, or others are also attacking? Your rule is an ideal. But what if you are surrounded by multiple attackers? Does the result necessarily exclude the possibility of the use of handguns?

  26. Peter, does that mean you think the Israeli account of handguns is untrue?

    Not at all, I simply wrote that bodies with multiple gunshots don’t mean any sadistic intentions but simply the results of fighting in close quarterrs – be the used weapons either handguns or assault rifles the standard firearms of any commando units.

  27. Peterthehungarian,

    I wasn’t there but I have complete trust in the IDF accounts.

    Col. Richard Kemp gets paid for saying things like that….

  28. peterthehungarian

    “I wasn’t there but I have complete trust in the IDF accounts.”

    That means you believe they knew the jihadis were waiting.. in which case they callously sacrificed the paras . Would you send young paras into a hornets nest? I have a little too much respect for young soldiers.

    You cannot have it both ways …either they are lying about the broadcast or they sacrificed the paras.

  29. Berchmans cool yoursef please with dreaming about Helen Thomas (you know the Jews should go back to Polin and Germany beau) – and report back when your body cooled down to room temperature.

  30. The execrable Exile accuses Kemp of lying. I find that liars always find the same fault in others.

  31. Exiled

    have you ever heard of the fact that not everyone can be sold like Goldstone for example?

    BTW your insinuations are embarrasingly stupi. Milne, Freedman, Lerner are paid by the Guardian. According to your logic they must be lying too? They lie naturally but in their case the money doesn’t important.

  32. Israel should insist that the bodies be exhumed so that an international panel of pathologists can examine and confirm or refute the autopsy results.

  33. You keep blabbering «antisemite! antisemite!», yet you’re ignorant of the fact that Arabs too are semites as well. Usurping/hijacking words other than usurping/hijacking a peoples’ land/a ship carrying aid for the dispossessed of Palestine.

  34. “Well such a grotesque distortion really should not come as a surprise when Martin Rowson is the author of this cartoon (from 2006)”.

    The Star Of David is the centrepiece of the flag of Israel, which makes it a fitting motif for a cartoon depicting Israeli military power – hence the gloved fist hitting the child’s face whilst attempting to swat the wasp. The wasp is saying ‘Hiz!Buzz!’ so it’s presumably a symbol for Hizbullah. The reasoning?

    The cartoon in question related to the article ‘United States to Israel: you have one more week to blast Hizbullah’ – both from the 17th July 2006:
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/jul/19/syria.usa
    and
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/cartoons/martinrowson/0,,1823933,00.html

    If you look at the cartoon closely, you’ll see George Bush hiding behind the wall. The first sentence of the Guardian’s article is “The US is giving Israel a window of a week to inflict maximum damage on Hizbullah before weighing in behind international calls for a ceasefire in Lebanon, according to British, European and Israeli sources”.

    Case closed on that one. Quite why the aptly named Gross would accuse that of being anti-Semitic needs no comment from me; likewise, why you guys would consider Magen Davids in a cartoon more significant than the consequences of bombing Lebanon does not merit being dignified.

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