General Antisemitism

Its about hate and intolerance, Stupid


(“It’s the economy, Stupid.”  – A phrase, made popular by President Clinton’s campaign strategist James Carville, referring to the notion that Clinton was a better choice because President Bush had not adequately addressed the economy.)

The significance of my recent post “Almost half of all Palestinians support murdering Jews inside 1949 armistice lines” was, I thought, clear enough.  49% of Palestinians surveyed supported killing Israeli civilians (men, women, and children) within pre-1967 borders. However, I have reason to believe that the significance of this poll eludes many readers.  Let me be clearer, then, on its meaning:

The most tired trope advanced by the mainstream media, and the Guardian in particular, is that “settlements” – referring, of course, to Jewish communities built in Judea and Samaria in the aftermath of the Six Day War (Israel’s war of defense waged to prevent its destruction) – are the main impediments to peace between Israel and the Palestinians.  This argument rests on the premise (equation) that “occupation” = conflict and “withdrawal” = peace.  However, this equation somehow ignores that results of Israels’ unilateral withdrawals from Southern Lebanon (2000) and Gaza (2005) – disengagements which only led to the strengthening of terrorist movements dedicated to Israel’s destruction (Hezbollah and Hamas respectively.)

Such folks always seem to ignore the fact that – regardless of Israeli policy – the failure of the Arab world, and Palestinians in particular, to acknowledge  Israel’s very right to exist (within any borders) may be an impediment to peace.  Further, such otherwise liberal and sober minds always find ways to justify – or conveniently ignore – the virulent anti-Semitism and demonization continually peddled in Palestinian political culture.  One only need to read reputable sites such as Palestinian Media Watch or MEMRI to understand the depth of the problem.

I recently asked an extremely well-informed and thoughtful colleague why “progressives” – typically sensitive to even the most subtle forms of racism- seem to ignore the most vile and virulent anti-Semitism consistently on display In Palestinian society – a level of Jew-hatred that respected historian Robert Wistrich has characterized as on par with that advanced by Nazi Germany.

Wistrich said:

“The scale and extremism of the literature and commentary available in Arab or Muslim newspapers, journals, magazines, caricatures, on Islamist websites, on the Middle Eastern radio and TV news, in documentaries, films, and educational materials, is comparable only to that of Nazi Germany at its worst. Yet the Western world largely turns a blind eye to the likely genocidal consequences of such a culture of hatred…”

 

A frame from a Hamas video which claims that the Jews planned the Holocaust to get rid of disabled and handicapped Jews to avoid having to provide for their medical needs.

 

My colleague suggested that such “progressives” may actually believe that exposure to such information may hurt the “peace process.”  That is, in the minds of many, facts regarding anti-Semitism and intransigence in Palestinian society may create an impediment to the trust and goodwill necessary to achieve a peace agreement.  Let’s call them “inconvenient truths”.

Of course, such folks never consider that – beyond the public relations problems such facts cause – the REALITY of such Palestinian intransigence, hate, and intolerance towards Jews may be, in itself, an impediment to peace.  In other words, maybe it’s not just a public relations problem but, rather, such hate may be an essential root cause of the conflict.

I often wonder what those who are convinced that “the settlements” are the root cause of the conflict would say if Israel withdrew from every last square meter of the West Bank, and granted the Palestinians a capital in East Jerusalem, and that such concessions not only didn’t result in peace, but actually emboldened the most radical elements within Palestinian society – making Israelis (men, women, and children living within its ’49 borders) even more vulnerable to deadly terrorist attacks – and rendered the Jewish nation’s very existence less secure.

Would such “proponents of peace” finally admit that they were wrong all along? More importantly to those, like me, who actually live here, would such an admission come too late?

19 replies »

  1. No, they wouldn’t admit they were wrong–they’d find some other “reason” to say Israel was at fault for the lack of peace. These are the same people, after all, who insist that Israel “still occupies” Gaza and that Israel has no right to respond to years of rocket and mortar attacks.

  2. “Would such “proponents of peace” finally admit that they were wrong all along?” Why should they when we have the concrete examples of what happened when Israel withdrew from the Sinai and from Lebanon and from Gaza?

    Just what kind of people keep on doing the same thing hoping each time for a different response?

    I’m tired of this game. I want to play another where the truth is on the table and we play by the real rules.

  3. “Jewish communities built in Judea and Samaria”

    How about Palestinians moving to Israel to set up communities? Why do I suspect you have a problem with that?

  4. Pretzelberg

    How about Palestinians moving to Israel to set up communities? Why do I suspect you have a problem with that?

    Maybe you don’t know but about 18% of the citizens of Israel are Arabs living in Arab or mixed communities.

    Believe me I won’t have any problem with Palestinians moving into Israel and setting up new communities at the same moment when
    – The USA will support Mexicans setting up Mexican communities in Arizona, Texas and New-Mexico
    – France will support Algerians setting up Muslim communities in Provance and Gascogne
    – Spain will support Moroccans setting up Muslim communities in Andalusia
    – Russia will support Chinese immigrants setting up Chinese communities in the Trans-Baikal area of Siberia and encourages Germans to settle in Koenigsberg
    – Poland will support Prussian immigrants to settle in Mazuria and resettle in Gdansk
    – the Palestinian Authority will support setting up new Jewish communities in the Hebron area
    – the Slovak Republic will support rebuild and resettle the ex-Hungarian communities in Slovakia
    – the Czech government will finance building new German communities in the Sudetenland
    – the Turkish government will support setting up Armenian communities on the slopes of Musa Dagh
    – the Saudi, Iraki, Moroccan, Syrian, Tunisian and Lybian governments will support setting up Jewish communities in their countries

    I have a feeling that I’ll have to wait some more months for not having some mild reservations about setting up Palestinian communities in Israel…

  5. No – Of course they would not admit that they were ever wrong.

    This is precisely their agenda

    To weaken Israel through the implementation of their concept of a peace process that is part of a hidden strategic objective to eventually destroy Israel as a majority Jewish nation through either a one state solution or to encourage the influx of Palestinians so as to change the demographics in favour of the Arabs (the Saudi plan).

    Even if peace is not achieved the very peace process of imposing conditions on Israel such as freezing Jewish construction in Judea and Samaria, let alone Jerusalem, de-legitimising Israel and advocating a BDS campaign, whilst pouring aid into the Palestinian Authority, giving moral support to Hamas and Herzbellah, is part of the tactical process to intimidate Israel to accept a peace agreement on the terms of their enemies.

    For exactly the same reason that they claim that Iran is a peaceful nation with no intention of building nuclear weapons, whilst at the same time demanding that the UN send in the inspectors to crawl around Israel searching for nuclear programs. Of course their agenda is to lift any restrictions against Iran so that Iran does acquire nuclear weapons whilst encouraging the UN to force Israel to destroy theirs if they have any, or to ensure that they never build them if they do not.

    They are hoping that Iran with nuclear weapons will so threaten Israel that the Jews will leave by their own volition ensuring that together with the above peace process Israel will be destroyed as a nation for the self- determination of the Jewish people.

    Of course if this process is not accepted by the Israeli government and is seen to be what it actually is then any breakdown in this peace process and any resulting intifada, which would be secretly encouraged and supported, will be blamed on Israeli intransigence and supremacy. The strategic fallback position is then to take the question to the UN, to stop the violence and impose a solution to the detriment of Israel’s survival as a Jewish nation.

    The peace process is not tough love, as peace activists and some anti-Zionist Jews might believe, but the eternal war against the Jew by other means.

  6. pretzelberg, I’m sure you’re aware that Jewish villages on the “West Bank” existed before 1948 and were supposed to be part of the new State of Israel, but they were overrun during the War of Independence and the surviving Jews fled to the area within the 1949 armistice lines (aka the “1967 borders”).

    Am I to understand that you believe if Palestinians fled their homes then they and their children and their children’s children have the right, in perpetuity, to return to them, but if Jews fled their homes then they lose that right for ever?

    And that’s not even taking into account who initiated the war in question…

  7. Adam,

    I suspect that the answer to your final question posed is that such people would (will?) continue blaming Israel and just find some other justification for the violence and hatred. It’ll be whatever their terrorist masters tell them is the reason.

  8. Ahh good to see the CIF writing some truthful things finally.
    Glad the EDL is making you see the light.

  9. @ peterthehungarian/ cba

    If the Jewish settlers in question had family ties to the West Bank, then that would be fine. But most of them don’t.

    Why is it that they have been allowed – encouraged, in fact – to move there while Arabs in the West Bank are not permitted to move west?

  10. Pretzelber

    Setting up new communities has nothing to do with family ties.
    The existence of Jewish settlements on the West Bank is exactly the same as the existence of Arab communities in Israel. If you think that the Jewish presence on the WB is the only block on the way to peace then you must be a supporter of Lieberman who supports a mutual population transfer.

  11. ”Arabs in the West Bank” – those of whom half support armed attacks against Israeli citizens according to the latest poll. I wonder why we don’t want them in Israel?

  12. The legacy of Islamic antisemtism is and always has been the root cause of this century old conflict…

  13. cba:

    “Am I to understand that you believe if Palestinians fled their homes then they and their children and their children’s children have the right, in perpetuity, to return to them, but if Jews fled their homes then they lose that right for ever?”

    This is exactly why i have a problem with Jewish x residents of Sheikh Jarah returning to their old homes.

    It’s opening a can of worms…

  14. What i found most interesting is despite what media is trying to convince you the blockade have worked very well.
    Support for Hamas is at a low and the Palestinians understand very well how electing Hamas again will turn their lives alot worse.
    A survey from this week in West Bank and Gaza

    If Hamas wins next legislative and president elections, will this in your view lead to the lifting or to tightening of the international boycott of the Palestinian government?
    Will lead to the lifting of the boycott 9.3%
    Will lead to the tightening of the boycott 66.4%
    Conditions will stay as they are today 19.3%

    If new elections agreed to by all factions are held today and the same lists that took part in the last PLC elections were nominated, for whom would you vote?
    Change and reform (Hamas+other that ran with them) 25.6%
    Fatah 45.1%

    If new presidential elections are to take place today, and Mahmud Abbas was nominated by Fateh and Ismail Haniyeh was nominated by Hamas, whom would you vote for?
    Mahmoud Abbas 56.5%
    Ismael Haniyyah 35.7%

  15. re: pretzelberg

    “Jewish communities built in Judea and Samaria”

    How about Palestinians moving to Israel to set up communities? Why do I suspect you have a problem with that?

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    The dumb-ass question/statement rearing its head yet again.
    Its remarkable that you are so obsessed with this inanity that you continue stating it despite receiving full and accurate responses to it.

    You insist on giving a fictitious state some fictitious borders, claiming national rights and sovereignty, of creating fictitious citizenship and associated rights.

    Now it may come to pass,it may not, I am unable to predict the future.

    I guess we should count ourselves fortunate to be in the presence of such a chuchem from the ma nishtana with connections in higher places and has access to the future.

  16. Alex,

    The sad fact is that Gazzans by large would still vote for Hamas.

    The West bankers which are a larger fraction of the Palestinian population would have no reason to vote anything else other than fatah as their needs are being met, and currently they are better off.

    The Gazzans should in theory vote for Fatah to ease their “misery” yet according to your survey one can assume they do not budge but infact apreciate Hamas’ position.