General Antisemitism

Why I’m an ashamed Jew


This is cross posted from Ray Cook.

 

Miriam Margolis


Yep, you read right.

I have to admit it.

I can’t live a lie any longer.

I’m deeply, deeply ashamed.

Ashamed of being Jewish? No way. I’m very proud to be Jewish and a member of the Jewish people.

Ashamed of Israel? Wrong again. I’m proud of Israel’s achievements. I worry about its policies, sometimes; I’m concerned, sometimes about some of its actions and those of some of its citizens, but I could say the same for Britain and I’m still proud to be British.

So why am I ashamed?

I’ll tell you. I’m ashamed of Jews who say they are ashamed to be Jews or Jewish.

I don’t hear Palestinians coming out to  declare they are ashamed to be Palestinian and denounce suicide bombs or missiles.

I don’t hear Arabs writing they are ashamed to be Arabs because of Al Qaeda or Sudan or Yemen.

I don’t hear Muslims forming groups of shame because of what Sunni does to Shia, or 9/11, or 7/7, or Madrid, or Mumbai.

I don’t know of any Ashamed Catholic groups forming because of the paedophilia apparently rife in Catholic clergy.

In fact I know of no other group of people who so often announce their ashamedness to be who they are as Jews do.

And you know what? It makes me ashamed. I’m an ashamed Jew who is ashamed of ashamed Jews. If that’s a paradox, so be it.

And I’m not ashamed to declare my shame.

Shame on me!

I don’t see why Arabs or Muslims or Palestinians or Brits or Americans or Chinese or anyone else should be ashamed of what they are because of the actions of a few.

If I’m ashamed to be a Jew because I don’t like what Israel does that is a form of self-hating, it’s bigotry – by golly, its anti-Semitic. If I hate all of a group because of the actions of some, then I am a bigot. And if I am the target of my own bigotry then I’m a pretty sick bigot.

On the Andrew Marr program this morning on BBC 1, the eponymous Scottish interviewer had the (Jewish) actress Miriam Margolyes in the studio  reporting on a recent visit to Israel and the West Bank.

We see her approaching a young Palestinian woman and asking through an interpreter whether she can see where she lives. The woman, carrying a young child, takes her to a canvas tent.

Miriam is shocked and says ‘no-one should have to live like this’.

I absolutely agree with her. No-one in the West Bank should be living in a tent. So why are they? Miriam believes it’s because of the terrible Israelis who make her an ‘ashamed Jew’.

Neither she nor Marr question why this woman lives like this. No-one asks why after 62 years a young woman whose grandparents left or were driven out of what is now Israel should be a refugee and have refugee status uniquely different from all other refugee groups in history.

Neither Margolyes or Marr wanted to mention or even wanted to entertain the idea that refugee camps, so-called, exist for one reason and one reason only: to deliberately perpetuate the victimhood of Palestinians and to preserve the idea, which Margolyes and other ashamed Jews have swallowed whole , that it is Israel who is responsible for these conditions.

Margolyes appears unaware that hundreds of thousands of Palestinians live comfortably on the West Bank in normal housing, She seems unaware that despite the billions of dollars poured into the Palestinian economy people are still allowed to live in tents and camps.

There is no need for it. Pakistanis are not living in tents three generations after their forbears fled India.

There are no refugee camps in Israel for the hundreds of thousands [of Jews] who were forced from their homes after 1948 from Egypt and Iraq and Syria and North Africa.

Marr asks ‘Do you think being a Jew gives you a different authority, ability to talk about [the Palestinian question]?’

‘The only authority I have is as a human being’, Margolyes replies. So far, so good.

Then she says that it should not make a difference being Jewish or not Jewish to be able to comment on the situation but then says, somewhat in contradiction that she is ‘embarrassed and ashamed’ (that word again) because ‘my “lot” is doing “it” to them’.  She then says ‘that’s why I wanted to go there, to see for myself’. Fine. But it appears she had already made up her mind that ‘her lot’ where doing ‘it’ to ‘them’.

Marr asks for her reaction and she then puts on a faux Arab accent and says that some said ‘why do you come? You are a Jew. We hate you.’ And then in her own voice ‘And I totally understood why’. Yet, she doesn’t understand why at all.

She doesn’t understand that this hatred predates the Jewish state. She doesn’t understand the daily diet of anti-Semitism that is fed to Palestinians in schools, newspapers and on TV.

Marr then asks a question which links the Holocaust to what he clearly believes is a given Israeli/Jewish paranoia.

He asks that, given Margolyes and her generation know what it’s like growing up in the shadow of the Holocaust, does she not realise that Israelis feel hemmed in and beleaguered by Iran, suicide bombs and missiles.

She admits her sympathy. She knows what anti-Semitism is. But ‘treating people the way the Israelis are treating the Palestinians is not making things better’. In other words, the blame for the situation is all on the Israeli side.

An then, lo and behold, the old ignorant trope comes out. ‘What people forget over there is that the Palestinians were not responsible for the Holocaust.’

Arghhh!  I’m so ashamed. What the hell has the Holocaust got to do with the situation? Is she suggesting that Israel exists because of Holocaust guilt? Is she suggesting that the Palestinians are paying for the crimes of Europeans?

If so, she is ignorant of her own people’s history.

‘They were not the enemy at that time’, she says. But THEY WERE! The Mufti of Jerusalem was a friend of Hitler and organised Muslim Nazi brigades in Yugoslavia. He assured Hitler that he would solve the Jewish Question in Palestine.

Hamas and Hizbollah and the PLO are all allied to the Muslim Brotherhood and its anti-Semitic policies.

Margolyes and other ashamed Jews need to educate themselves. I am sick of being ashamed of them.

What is she saying now? Oh yes, the Israelis should understand and accept that they owe reparation to the Palestinians just like the Jews expect it from the Germans.

So she, perhaps unwittingly, makes a moral equivalence between the way Jews were treated in the Holocaust and  the way Palestinians, who have been hell-bent on another Holocaust for 100 years and certainly 60, have been treated by the Israelis.

Who attacked Israel in 1967? Why was the PLO formed in 1964 before there was any ‘Occupation’?

The Israelis are behaving ”so cruelly’. Yes, sometimes all those with power over others behave cruelly. Maybe she should understand why Israelis might do so to Palestinians who want to kill them, and blow up their children on buses and in their beds. Why can she only see one side to this conflict?

Even Marr has to remind her about suicide attacks and rockets.

And then we get the real answer to Margolyes ashamedness. She is not a two-state solutionist.

She wants  ‘those people to be back in their own villages, which is what they want.’

How ignorant is this. They just want to go back to their villages. But their villages are Haifa and Jerusalem and Tel Aviv and Eilat and Beersheva. Margolyes is clearly advocating the end of the Jewish state as a deluded one-stater who believes the Palestinians, who she admits hate the Jews, just want to go back peacefully to their homes.

How often do we see people in the media like Miriam Margolyes, Jews and non-Jews, well-meaning, decent people who just do not understand. They live in their cosy left-wing bubbles dreaming of world peace where all will be luvvies.

Sorry Miriam. You are a very nice woman and a wonderful actress, but you are a deluded Jew. Go read some history. Go read the PLO charter and the Hamas charter.

Don’t pose as a woman of peace when you clearly want a second Holocaust – because if you don’t, then you need to wake up out of your deluded lefty dreams, you and all the ashamed Jews.

Until you do so, I will continue to be an ashamed of ashamed Jews Jew.


33 replies »

  1. Ohmygawd! That’s the sort of nightmare figure that had me hiding under the bed when I was a child!

    Adam this is a very good article, but Gargoyles is a pluperfect idiot!

  2. With her looks and demeanor,she should convert to Islam and then she can be very proud of her self.

    ‘Yohoho’……That is the kind of fugly picture that could get grownups hiding under the bed.Now that fugly vision of her is going to stay in my mind,there should be a warning when these kind of fugly pictures are posted.

  3. More concerning Arab involvement in the Holocaust:

    Satloff estimates that up to two million North African and Balkan Muslims collaborated in the Holocaust.

    The Mufti, whom the Palestinians to this day consider an honoured leader, contributed to the Holocaust in four ways:
    – he is probably the individual most responsible for convincing Hitler to choose elimination over emigration
    – in the Balkans he organised Muslim SS troops, who deported the entire Jewish population
    – in both Berlin and Athens, he instigated and planned the formation of an Einsatzgruppe to perpetrate genocide upon the Mideast’s Jews
    – In Iraq he engineered the Nazi coup and subsequent pogrom (farhud) against the ancient Jewish community.

  4. And it’s not like Muslims distance themselves from nazis. Muslims deny the Holocaust, praise SHITler, nickname SHITler Abu Ali, gave sanctuary to nazis as Syria did to alois brunner, adopted nazi era style helmets and goosestep parading as in Egypt when Menachem Begin went to Egypt.

    Miriam should be ashamed – of being a DUMB Dhimmi Jew.

  5. Andrew Marr’s “Start the Week” really has form on running anti-semitic anti-zionists. It has given huge and invariably very respectful prime slots to Shlomo Sand, Norman Finklestein, Eva Figes and others of that ilk. Can’t just be Marr offering a nationwide platform for israel-Nazi equivalence makers. Who are this show’s producer and researchers?

  6. The BBC got it right for once when it finished off with the loathsome Margoyles sprouting a huge, rubbery, monstrous tongue.

    But … Marr has form – not so long ago he was fawning over the abhorrent Cat Stevens Islam character.

  7. The inglorious Beeb is the voice of antisemitism in the UK, but then so is the Foreign Office of whatever government is in power.

  8. benorr

    With her looks and demeanor,she should convert to Islam and then she can be very proud of her self.

    What kind of bigoted and hateful crap is that?

  9. Thinking it through to its logical conclusion, I feel ashamed as a shamed of “ashamed Jews ” Jew that I should have to feel the need to be ashamed of their shameful actions.

  10. Not bigoted at all, pretzelberg.

    She holds daft ideas (so do many who follow Islam);

    She would probably fall under the spell of Anwar al-Awlaki or some other bearded loon;

    In some places, and depending on the sort of Islam she converted to, she might be compelled to wear a face veil or even a burqa, which would be a blessing to humanity and would stop her from frightening old people, children and animals;

    And, that being the case, she and Islam deserve such a mutual “blessing.” It’d serve them both right wouldn’t it?

    Sorted!!

  11. Eddie, you don’t have to be smart to be an apologist for the conduct of Islam towards others – you merely need to have a pulse and be breathing. Bunglawala and Anjem Choudry are living examples

  12. As Judy said, Marr has history. I wrote to him – no reply.

    Terrific piece Ray!

    I don’t know which Margolyes is most – confused or ashamed …

  13. Richard Landes, I believe, coined the term “Jews who are PROUD to be ASHAMED to be Jewish”. This definition seems to aptly fit Margolis. She wears her “shame” as a badge of honor to prove her progressive credentials.

  14. @ Adam Levick and varous others here

    Re. “Jews who are PROUD to be ASHAMED to be Jewish”.

    Miriam Margolyes is not saying that she is ashamed to be Jewish as such.

  15. So cifwatch, are you ashamed of Herbert Samuel, the Jew who appointed Hajj Amin el-Husseini Grand Mufti even though he lost an election?

  16. Yohoho

    Not even a 10 litre tub of Ahava cream would make any improvement to a face so frightful in its countenance that it would put even Lady (sic) Ashton’s visage to shame.

    Would you really want to be so cruel as to encourage her convert to Islam, wrap that face in a niquab and have done with it? What is the current Islamic punishment for a self – confessed one time Jewish lesbian these days?

  17. andrew r

    Is it possible to be ashamed of someone who’s long dead?

    Look to the living.

    But – thinking back to Britain’s betrayal of Jews in the Mandate – I believe I do feel shame.

  18. Hans-Ludwig Kröber, one of the leading German forensic psychiatrists, who defines himself as an “atheist Protestant”, states that the sexual abuse figures, properly interpreted, suggest that sexual abuse among Catholic priests is fare more rare than among any other group of adult men. Non-celibate men, so Kröber, are 36 times more likely to become sex abusers than Catholic priests.

    But to write “I don’t know of any Ashamed “Gay” groups forming because of the paedophilia apparently rife in homosexual circles” wouldn’t have been politically correct or would it. Who gives an aviating fornication about the truth anyway and the Catholic Church is always good for a cheap shot and a lot of tawdry applause.

    On a diferent note, it will never cease to amaze me how anybody can be proud (or ashamed) of something with which he was born.

  19. The Editrix has linked to an interesting blog which states, “This blog supports Geert Wilders without reservation.”

  20. I hope I still have some humanity. I have been listening to the latest about Sakineh, whose death sentence has been placed “on hold” because of international pressure. I have no idea what Sakineh would think about Israel or Palestine and care even less, but unlike the attention of the world to Sakineh’s plight Gargoyles’ half-witted “support” for Palestinians has to be doing them more harm than good.

    Sakineh’s treatment in the name of sharia is horrendous, but I still believe that conversion to Islam, the more salafist the better, complete with the uniform, would concentrate what is left of Gargoyles’ mind wonderfully – she’d have many other things to worry about than her “opinions” of Israel.

    And you and I would never have to gaze upon that hideous countenance again, would we?

  21. @ Yohoho

    Not bigoted at all, pretzelberg.

    You honestly want to claim that benorr’s “With her looks and demeanor,she should convert to Islam and then she can be very proud of her self” does not constitute bigotry?