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A Guardian Reader Discovers the Palistani Nation!


A Guest Post by AKUS

Not since 1967, when arch-terrorist Yasser Arafat invented the Palestinian nation, has such a discovery been made!

In the thread to an article mourning the Obama administration’s decision to finally see the light and accept that building apartments in Jerusalem is not the reason for the Palestinians’ obduracy, notoriously anti-Israeli Guardian contributors Hussein Agha and Robert Malley (I get the impression they always appear in twos – perhaps one reads and the other writes?), These concrete constraints have quashed any hope of peace, a remarkably revealing comment was posted by one “junglederry”, apparently in all sincerity:

It is not often that the sheer, abysmal ignorance of those sucking at the teat offered by the Guardian to legitimize the delegitimization of Israel is so blatantly apparent. So most “palistanis” are dead? Killed by Israel, no doubt?

Postscript:

Where, I wondered, is “palistan”*? Checking the atlas, I came to the conclusion that the remaining “Palistanis”* live in Balistan*, located on the West Bank of the Air Mikhail river that runs in Baluchistan. Most are dead, of course. So, as “junglederry” asks, what is it that we are all arguing about?

(*There is no “p” in Arabic, so so E. Ty. Mologi informs me that the “Palistanis” are properly referred to as “Balistanis”)

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  1. Oh dear Akus, have some mercy on my stomach muscles. Those dim-dumb-dims at cif do have their amusing uses, don’t they? What

    I tweeted about your Q Christina, Oyvagoy. She’s another very unenlightened person who thinks rather much of herself.

  2. Since people are outraged over Der Guardians CiF policies of deleting pro-Israel comments and leaving racist pro-islamofascist comments standing, why not bring these policies to the attention to companies which advertise in Der Guardian.

    Work to get the advertisers to end their relationship with Der Guardian.

    Any company that advertises in Der Guardian shares their racist islamofascist worldview.

  3. Actually since there is no “P” in Arabic, the local Arabs call themselves Falastini and call the Israel “Falasteen”.

    They have no relation to the actual Philistines of antiquity.

  4. AKUS, I think you are being unfair to junglederry who is in fact saying that the Arabs’ “Right of Return” is nonsense.

    He just lumps together Pakistanis and Arabs claiming Israel’s land.

    And maybe there’s something he’s smoking…

  5. Israel “Falasteen”.
    I always thought that the Romans plucked the name Palestine out of the dustbin of history, renaming the province of Judea after what we now know as a coastal tribe that ceased to exist as an entity around 500-600 years earlier, called the Philistines.

    So the relationship between the actual Philistines of antiquity and the peoples who now call themselves Palestinian is just an incidental via the name that the Romans gave the area as a punishment against the Jews to disassociate them from their land.

  6. ilan in Oz – There is no connection between the Philistines and the people who lived in Israel, Judea and Samaria at the time the Romans renamed it Palestine. Under the Ottoman empire “Palestine” was an ill-defined area roughly comprising Southern Lebanon, today’s Jordan, the Golan, and today’s Israel. Sometimes it was referred to as Southern Syria, which is the basis for Syria’s claim to Lebanon, which it regards as part of Greater Syria, and Israel.

    Until Arafat cooked up the term in about 1967 there was no national group known as the Palestinians. The various people living in the area over the last few hundred years were Druze, Jews, Samaritans, Circassions, Armenians, Bedouin, Arab, Christian Ottomans, Moslem Ottomans, etc. The Ottoman category fell away after the British conquest on the ME in WW I. There has always been a Jewish presence in Jerusalem and a few other places like Pek’in. It is very likely that many of the WB Arabs are descended from Jewish families forced to convert or die by the Moslem invaders, and some mainatin certain Jewish customs.

    In fact, since many Jews living in Mandatory Palestine had no other nationality, the British issued birth certificates – my wife has one – stating that they were “Palestinian”.

  7. Jay – on the other hand, they would refer to a famous English playwright as Shakesbeer – the subject of a well known comedy sketch in Hebrew.

    You might be interested to to a Google search on “Palistani” and see how successfully it has been conflated with “Pakistani” across the web.

  8. The word comes from Hebrew Pleshet. The Romans called it Philistia but later changed it to Pal[a]estina Prima.

    That Arab mishmash who have more in common with Turks, Berbers and Nile delta Nubians have few Semitic roots if any.

    Their political elite though, especially the ones who originated around Jerusalem, have deep Semitic roots going back centuries. Nonetheless, the real Semites in their midst are outnumbered like 100 to 1.

  9. Ariadne

    They may have some Samaritan connection.

    There is no definitive study on the subject that I’m aware of. Maybe someone else who has invested more time would shed more light on the matter.

    The Samaritan community, by the way, always wanted Jews to stay put. Nothing binds them more to the Jews than Muslim oppression. Also, the Samaritans look like Mizrahi Jews. Even when they wear Arab robes, they still stand out. Some though converted to Islam. They were forced to by and large.

  10. In a 2008 article I read that there were only four Samaritan families left and elsewhere I think the figures given were around 700 now and something over 1m when Islam invaded.

  11. Britain has become the main leader of an international effort to deny Israel’s right to exist in its current form.

    This campaign is rooted in a network that includes rather strange bedfellows: hard-line Islamists, mainly led by Muslim Brotherhood members and supporters, along with far-left socialists, each having their own splinter groups that cooperate in the struggle against the Jewish state.

    For many years Britain has been a stronghold of the Brotherhood; its
    main publications, as well as the main publications of its Palestinian branch, Hamas, have been issued there, instead of in locales such as Cairo or Amman where doing so would be prohibited.

    Far-left movements have also been active in Britain for many years.

    By taking advantage of Britain’s political freedoms and legal system, which allows designated “war criminals” to be brought to justice there, by working through both the country’s civil-society system and politics, these groups have been able to mobilize an anti-Israeli campaign in the country.

    By joining forces against the War on Terror and against the British
    participation in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, they have succeeded to elevate and “mainstream” their efforts.

    In the process, a focus has been placed on the media based in Britain, whether electronic media outlets such as the BBC or Sky, or print media such as The Guardian, which today is read globally in the English-speaking world on the internet.

    London is also a hub for major Arabic media outlets with influence across the whole Middle East, such as Al-Hayat and Asharq Alawsat. Thus, this campaign also functions on a global scale. So, it is important to scrutinize the British hub of delegitimization in order to understand its sources and how it reaches out to the rest of the world.

    This piece looks at the background of both the Islamic and leftist camps, then map the main organizations active in the delegitimization efforts, and finally focuses on those who help “mainstream” these efforts.

    Click here for complete article: http://www.jcpa.org/text/Mapping_Delegitimization.pdf

  12. JCPA

    It is very sad (worse) about the rest of the world but the ordinary British person does not agree with Islamisation at all. Does not agree with the EU and the Human Rights Act that protects all the people we don’t want here.

    Voices crying in the wilderness.