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Sherwood’s gaffe (Blogging from Itamar)


I’m on a tour of the Israeli Yishuv of Itamar, site of the gruesome attack on Shabbat which left five Israelis (including 3 children) dead, and our group just finished talking to the community Rabbi and his wife Leah (who is also a community spokesperson) about their thoughts on the massacre and related issues of life in the community.

The Guardian’s Harriet Sherwood is one of the European journalists on the tour, and she just asked Leah – at the end of the Q&A – if she was a “Messianic Jew, a question which, as anyone familiar with the Christ-based movement knows, is an absurd question for a rebbetzin of a religious Jewish community.

Harriet Sherwood

I’ll post later, but am still stunned by the failure of the Guardian’s Jerusalem correspondent to even marginally understand what the term Messianic Judaism denotes.

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  1. Obviously her job description didn’t demand any education.

    Just a visceral hate of Israel.

  2. This woman is unbelievable.

    On second thoughts – no, she not.

    Its hard to believe that she was once the foreign editor of the Guardian.

    No, on second thoughts, its not.

    Perhaps after she was “Home Editor” they decided they needed to send her away. Next time they should try the Antarctic for a few years.

  3. After about six months here I bet she can already say “two coffees please” in Hebrew. What more does she need than that?

  4. For HarrietinIsrael:

    A little learning is a dangerous thing;
    drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring:
    there shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
    and drinking largely sobers us again.

  5. All of which proves that you have to be as thick as the proverbial short planks to get a job at the Groan; that indeed it is a vital prerequisite, given Michael White’s foot in mouth moment recently.

  6. Maybe Sherwood was asking whether she belonged to Chabad ?

    Jews for Jesus: A group of Jews who believe that a certain Jew was the Messiah.
    Chabad: A group of Jews who believe that a certain Jew was the Messiah.

    What’s the difference ?

  7. MTC Jews for Jesus: A group of Jews who believe that a certain Jew was the Messiah.
    Chabad: A group of Jews who believe that a certain Jew was the Messiah.

    What’s the difference ?
    Two thousand years of persecution

  8. MindOfCrap,

    One group believes that the Messiah had already come and will return.

    The other group believes that the Messiah has yet to come for the First Time.

    I’ll leave it to you to ponder which is which.

  9. Margie & T-G-… :

    My question was asked from the point-of-view of Sherwood ; anyone living in Israel is very aware of all the “Long Live the King Messiah” posters and banners with the pictures of Shneerson that appear everywhere, so it may explain the reason behind the question. But even so, this implies that she does not know the difference between Chabad and J-for-J, or does not know what the term “Messianic Jews” commonly refers to, either of which is inexcusable for an “expert” of “Sherwood’s “stature”.

  10. The thing is – you don’t have to know anything to be sent by (eg) the BBC or the Guardian to report on Israel. These journalists already knows everything they want to know about Israel before they go – nothing, nothing is going to change the narrative.

  11. John, You show English in its subtlety as having more than one meaning for “know”. These sycophants have to be quite well-versed in the Arab fantasia and not just clean slates.

  12. Why should one have to engage in mind reading (if that’s not a contradiction in terms) as to what Sherwood might have meant?

    Her past record is proof positive that she lacks basic intelligence or knowledge or derech erez, or the fundamental curiosity about the society or culture in which she has been placed.

    In short she’s a dead loss and the sooner she’s booted out the better.

  13. Could (oh please heaven!) Sherwood’s Guardian remit be shrinking?

    First Foreign Editor, then Home Editor, thence to Jerusalem Editor.

    Whither next, confinement in a back room of a supermarket and comparing breakfast cereals and washing powders?

    (Perhaps not, she might bankrupt the manufacturers).

  14. Hairshirt:

    “Why should one have to engage in mind reading (if that’s not a contradiction in terms) as to what Sherwood might have meant?”

    Because my “mind reading” shows that if we understand where her question came from she is even more ignorant than initially suspected.

  15. Fabian ben Israel

    Amazing. She is ignorant of basic stuff! And yet she is here… reading Haaretz English edition, I suppose.

    Sort of reminds me of something that a bloke who retired from the BBC shares where he asks what he should deal with today and the answer was ‘read The Guardian’.

    And The Guardian ‘reads’ HaAretz. (In English).

    Once again demonstrating how ‘Jews control the Media’.

  16. Funny, you bet. But potentially VERY, VERY SERIOUS. Adam – maybe we can grab Ms Sherwood by her ignorant Achilles heel and ask for a legal opinion about this. For a ultra frum rebbetzin to be asked if she is a Messianic Jew is akin to asking her if she enjoys bacon and eggs for breakfast. Who do you know with some clout who’d give us a quick opinion for free re possible slander?

  17. Natalie Wood

    For a ultra frum rebbetzin to be asked if she is a Messianic Jew is akin to asking her if she enjoys bacon and eggs for breakfast.

    She probably does enjoy bacon and eggs for breakfast.

    Free speech is free speech whether it exposes ignorance or not.

  18. Sherwood’s gaffe is indeed indicative of someone who has absolutely no idea of the environment she reports from, which, as has already been said, must greatly impair her ability to report.

    Despite her clear ignorance I suspect she’d have loved to shove the word ‘Messianic’ in her report. Depending on its context this word can conjure up more than one meaning.

    An example might be Ahmadinejad who believes the Mahdi is returning soon but the scene of global chaos must first be in place – a scenario he would have no difficulty in nudging along. That’s an extreme ‘Messianic’ viewpoint, but it is one nonetheless.

  19. That’s it, Penny!

    The Groan should send our Hattie to be the Guardian correspondent in Iran where she could interview ImaMadNutJob regularly and write lies about him for CiF!

    Quick, someone suggest it to Rustbucket

  20. I wonder what other gaffes Harriet makes in her daily life in the Middle East leaving people speechless while she thinks they’re either dumbfounded by her brilliance or too stupid to understand her advanced (sorry ‘advanced’) ‘ideas’.

  21. Silver Trees, I second that. I think there must be a deepest Iran. A Turkish army man used to post on Usenet and he said he had been on an operation in Iran that Iran didn’t know about. Before the Islamist army purge, of course.

    I see that Sherwood has not tweeted these magna opera. Her last magic puff was on the Israel’s First Arab Museum that isn’t.

  22. Since it’s The Guardian and Sherwood is not a forest dweller, I assume the question was designed to be provocation trap. Take it a face value and you lose. I suggest the best response for English bad-manners is to take a “fair but stern” tone of voice and subject the errant provocateur to a gentle but verbose lecture.

  23. Thought you might like to know that The Guardian have removed the following comment I made this morning in response to other comments posted against their article from “one” Daud Abdullah

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/mar/14/europe-israel-palestine-european-disconnect-public?commentpage=all#start-of-comments

    My post:-
    This what “Arab Palestinian Nationalism” is about:-

    “Arab Palestinians” have named a town square in Ramallah after a female terrorist who killed 37 Israelis in 1978.

    The official dedication of the Dalal Mughrabi square near Ramallah took place just two days after a Palestinian terrorist group claimed responsibility for the slaughter of five Israelis from the same family, three of whom were children including a 3 month old baby.

    Mughrabi is celebrated by some Palestinians for her role in a bus hijacking on the road between Tel Aviv and Haifa. Thirteen children were among those killed in that attack.

    Members of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas’ Fatah party were present at the ceremony.

    Also this weekend a sports contest at a Fatah-run youth centre in the West Bank was named in honour of the first female Palestinian suicide bomber, Wafa Idris.

    Idris murdered an 81-year-old man when she blew herself up outside a busy shoe shop in Jerusalem nine years ago. The attack also left 150 people injured.

  24. Thought you might like to know that The Guardian have removed the following comment I made this morning in response to other comments posted against their article from “one” Daud Abdullah

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/mar/14/europe-israel-palestine-european-disconnect-public?commentpage=all#start-of-comments

    My post:-
    This is what “Arab Palestinian Nationalism” is about:-

    “Arab Palestinians” have named a town square in Ramallah after a female terrorist who killed 37 Israelis in 1978.

    The official dedication of the Dalal Mughrabi square near Ramallah took place just two days after a Palestinian terrorist group claimed responsibility for the slaughter of five Israelis from the same family, three of whom were children including a 3 month old baby.

    Mughrabi is celebrated by some Palestinians for her role in a bus hijacking on the road between Tel Aviv and Haifa. Thirteen children were among those killed in that attack.

    Members of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas’ Fatah party were present at the ceremony.

    Also this weekend a sports contest at a Fatah-run youth centre in the West Bank was named in honour of the first female Palestinian suicide bomber, Wafa Idris.

    Idris murdered an 81-year-old man when she blew herself up outside a busy shoe shop in Jerusalem nine years ago. The attack also left 150 people injured.

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  26. Anthony Greenstickle I do hope that you don’t go on telling the truth about Palestinian atrocities in cif. Those, and quoting the Hamas Charter, are the two things that will get you banned most quickly from their columns. Saying that Jews were slaughtered and calling Palestinians terrorists are also good reasons in their eyes.