Guardian

Large number of Guardian readers morally justify terrorist attack against Israeli civilians in Jerusalem


In response to Seth Freedman’s unusually sober, and largely unqualified, condemnation of the terrorist attack in Jerusalem yesterday (Jerusalem bus bomb will harm the Palestinian cause“, CiF March 24) Guardian readers, in relatively large numbers, offered their dissent, many explicitly justifying the intentional killing of Israeli civilians by Palestinian terrorists.

Murder of Israeli civilians justifiable considering Israel’s “ethnic cleansing” of Palestinians.

Such terrorism is “understandable”.  Some Palestinians, given their circumstances, will inevitably “just snap”.

We have no right to morally judge such terrorists acts.

Violence, and only violence, is the answer to Israeli “colonization”.

Such “resistance” is justified.

What other choice do Palestinians have other than violence against Israeli civilians?

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  1. They are also “wondering” (if the brainless can wonder) whether Palestinians actually did it.

    (They may have a point, it could be a disaffected Israeli Arab, but I think not).

    How come the police took they collective eye off the ball and hadn’t noticed the unattended package before?

  2. I would not be surprised if this is the only forum in which I can freely present my own opinion while be in favour of Israel, this is a disgusting fact which I assume is the fact in most European countries.

  3. Why am I not surprised?

    The Brits were and are no better than the Nazis.

    In 1218, England became the first European nation to require Jews to wear a marking badge. Taxation grew increasingly intense. Between 1219 and 1272, 49 levies were imposed on Jews for a total of 200,000 marks, a vast sum of money. The first major step towards expulsion took place in 1275, with the Statute of Jewry. The statute outlawed all usury and gave Jews fifteen years to readjust. However, guilds as well as popular prejudice made Jewish movement into mercantile or agricultural pursuits almost impossible.

    While in his duchy of Gascony in 1287, Edward ordered the local Jews expelled. All their property was seized by the crown and all outstanding debts payable to Jews were transferred to the King’s name. It was a bleak sign of things to come. Whatever his personal feelings, by the time he returned to England in 1289 Edward was deeply in debt. The next summer he summoned his knights to impose a steep tax. To make the tax more palatable, Edward in exchange essentially offered to expel all Jews. The heavy tax was passed, and three days later, on July 18, the Edict of Expulsion was issued. One official reason for the expulsion was that Jews had neglected to follow the Statute of Jewry. The edict of expulsion was widely popular and met with little resistance, and the expulsion was quickly carried out.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edict_of_Expulsion

  4. Thank be these people wern`t around during WW2 otherwise we would be speaking German,those of us left alive. Israel will still be there long after her detractors have gone

  5. What makes those posters look particularly ludicrous is that they illustrate exactly what Set said in the article about apologists for terrorism:

    Claiming “it’s the occupation, stupid”, they behave as though any act of violence, however wanton, can be breezily dismissed as nought but a Pavlovian reaction to Israeli aggression in Gaza and the West Bank.

    In fact, there’s a Pavlovian reaction apparent among those posters as well.

    Rouge77 calls the bombing merely a case of “raising their hands” against Israel. Pathetic.

  6. Ben Dor I am a British citizen and I know a lot of decent fellow Brits, including some Muslims.

    I am very ready to agree that our government, along with most western governments, are the most self-serving, morally bankrupt, hypocritical brown-nosers who ever drew breath, particularly when it comes to choices as to whether they should support the only democracy in the Middle East which happens to be Jewish, or cave into Muslim pressure and condemn her at every turn.

    It’s true that the Brits have a history of antisemitism too, but you have forgotten how the Houses of Parliament celebrated the 3t0th anniversary of the edict of return of Jews to England in 2006.

    Here I am and here I stay, although sometimes I feel like a lone voice in the wilderness.

    Gershon, you may well be right that CiFWatch is one of the few places on line where you can freely be pro-Israel. Welcome

  7. almost every newspaper and major blog throughout the western world has the exact same comments

    i find it refreshing that people are so open in their jew hate

    it reminds me of who i am

  8. CIF illustrates the degree to which moral relativism has emasculated a once great country.

    The Britain that stood against the Nazis is no more. Now Britain has become a nation of dhimmis. If they could only see themselves as the world sees them – weak, pusillanimous, lacking in honour – they would surely shudder.

    This is why we are seeing the rise of the EDL, and gratifyingly, a growing anti-Islamist movement in Europe. Ordinary grass-roots people are ashamed of the moral cowardice of their leaders, and have nothing but contempt for the liberal elite.

  9. I wonder what Rouge77 considers to be the “concessions” made by Palestinians.

    Through no fault of Israel, they don’t seem to have anything to concede. They can’t claim even a diminution of terrorism since it is Israel which quashed it.

  10. I can’t say I’m pleased to see Freedman back – and I see that stylistically he has learned nothing while in the wilderness of gentrified Jaffa – but he does seem to have finally realized that those people he is so anxious to be friends with …. might actually kill him.

    A small advance in his weltanschaung, but nevertheless, an advance.

    Still, of course, what really concerns him and the Guardian is well expressed inthe headline to his article:

    “Jerusalem bus bomb will harm the Palestinian cause”.

    Not nearly as much, I would think, as the damage to the dead and wounded

    Problem is, having been roundly trashed in this return to favor with CiF, he will now have to balance what for him is a relatively normal response to a bombing with an (imaginary?) interview with an unnamed local taxi driver or fellafel seller who will demonstrate to the punters all the worst things they want to believe about Israel.

  11. Comparing the British to the Nazis, even with the attitudes we see from a few dozen in the Guardian and the eager hordes lining up to join the PSC, is ridiculous.