General Antisemitism

Hateful Guardian reader comments about Jews & Israel beneath Daniel Levy’s celebration of Hamas


Daniel Levy’s excitement about Hamas – where he enthusiastically opines that the Islamic Resistance Movement’s participation in a new Palestinian unity government will reinvigorate the peace process – expressed in CiF yesterday, elicited more than few Guardian reader comments which were, let’s just say, not quite tolerant or progressive.

The organized American Jewish community (“domestic Zionist pressure”) prevents the US Administration from forcing Israel to make peace and treat Palestinians humanely. 

Israeli PM Netanyahu will eventually impose martial law, starve and ethnically cleanse the Palestinians (thinly veiled Nazi reference)

American government is hostage to organized Jewish community.  The US is subservient to Israel. 

Israel intentionally fires at ambulances, old people, and children.  The First Intifada is characterized as an “Israeli war against children”. 

Israel slaughtered Palestinian children. Zionism is a racial supremacist ideology. 

Israel has bombed, starved, and tortured Palestinians – who are “the most stoic and humane people on earth”. 

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  1. what’s so absurd about the comments is that the US has been instrumental in forcing Israel to give up land it conquered in wars enemies have started.

    the US has gone so far as to blackmail israel into retreat.

    the US has never forced muslim allies to do the same (pakistan, saudis, jordanians, etc..)

    nobody told jordan to GTFO out of the west bank after their annexation. same with gaza.

    and anyways, why does the US have a right to boss israel around? i love how these so-called progressives run around whining about the US being the world police – but when it comes to israel imperialism and neo-colonialism is suddenly honky dory.

  2. Thankfully I was away for Easter (no, not for religious reasons!) and missed all the scumbag BTL comments.

    The scary part is that gondwanaland otherwise strikes me as an intelligent poster.

  3. The really crackpot thing about this post is that every single one of the comments has been twisted by Mr Levick and religious extremist ideology. All of these comments are entirely true. Not once do they say anything about Jews, but because Levick thinks he can speak for the entire Jewish race, and assumes that everyone that advocates apartheid in Israel / Palestine must be Jewish. A demonstrably false view. Just ask Mike Huckabee.

    What a sad, contorted, nasty view of the world.

  4. Oh, insanitary is back. What about you: do you “advocate” apartheid in IP? Are you in favor of apartheid? Who do you advocate for? Let me guess: “Abstract Humankind and Immaculate Moral Righteousness”, right? You should know by now that those lofty intentions left a huge pile of bodies behind. But you don´t care, do you? Because you preach for abstract humankind, and everything goes if you feel good ranting for the “cause”.

  5. Ahh, Sanity. You might want to consider joining “ManWithRA” in his visit to Palestine in the near future. While there, maybe you can bump into Vittorio Arrigoni’s “friends.”

  6. I expected a much better response, frankly.

    Or at least one that addressed my points. Alas, the intellectual level of the discussion here is not the highest.

  7. insanity

    you didn’t make any points. you experessed your opinions, including you believe it’s true that:

    1. jews in the USA are the main stumbling block to peace in the ME

    2. the israeli prime minister would do to the palestinians what hitler did to the jews if only he could

    3. Hamas’s deliberate attacks on civilians are legitimate; israeli mistakes made in self defence are not

    4. The first intafada was an israeli war against children

    5. Israel deliberately ‘intensifies violence’ because it doesn’t want peace

    6. Israel slaughters palestinian children out of race hate

    7. suicide bombing, using their children as human shields, murdering sleeping babies and then celebrating it – these are hallmarks of stoicism and humanity.

    The authors of these comments are projecting their own criminal motives and shameful prejudice onto their hate objects, the israelis.

    You too, yes?

    ant-zionist propaganda is wasted here. you’d be better off on CIF. but do take care – hate kills. and it kills palestinians too. best not egg them on, wouldn’t you agree?

  8. Each one of those statements is a twisted distortion of what was actually written. You are sad pathetic fantasists who try to find reasons for perpetuating apartheid. Disgusting.

  9. OK let’s take a look at the easiest one, number four…

    4. The first intafada was an israeli war against children

    what did Papalagi write?

    “Do you forget that the first intafada was an israeli war against children…?”

    your response: “Each one of those statements is a twisted distortion of what was actually written”

    Who is the REAL sad pathetic fantasist? And what is it that YOU are trying to perpetuate?

    I won’t ascribe motives to you although

  10. “Alas, the intellectual level of the discussion here is not the highest.” insanitary

    I see. Curiously, you keep posting your inane comments. If you have such contempt for this blog why don´t you, pretzlenut and other such intellectual “giants” create a blog just for yourselves, so you can fondle each other´s fragile-but-hugely-inflated egos? Yeah, I know, you wouldn´t have an audience and attention is exactly what your child-like mentality craves for.

  11. “wow, might i actually get some proper debate on this site?” insanity

    Yes, it happens all the time, though your contributions are consistently irrelevant.

  12. Now, to deal with the content, you pull out one clause from 5 paragraphs and are trying to tell me that this represents the argument being made?

    And actually, this was the accusation: ‘Israel intentionally fires at ambulances, old people, and children.’

    Now, take out the word ‘intentionally’ and I’ll agree with it. But the ratchetting up is what discredits the geniuses who run this site.

  13. insanity

    shit happens. palestinians have used clearly marked ambulances to stage paliwood PR excercises and to carry out murderous attacks. the israelis aren’t perfect but they are a great deal more humane than their enemies.

    why should i enumerate the other 6? Which is it, insanity, too lazy to do it for yourself? Or too thick?

  14. “shit happens. ” zeitgoose

    Exactly. And those hectors of moral immaculacy seem to forget there´s a state of war in Gaza and that in war civilizans inevitably are killed, particularly when the enemy systematically hides among them. Even the US and the EU have been killing civilians repeatedly in Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan and now in Lybia.

    Curiously, those same paladins of moral perfectionism that go appoplectic about Israel, don´t give a s*** about places such as Syria or Iran which systematically kills their own civilians in droves. In sum, they are shameless hypocrites.

  15. well, quid pro quo at least:

    1. jews in the USA are the main stumbling block to peace in the ME

    stumbling block to peace in ME is ‘domestic Zionist pressure’ in the US. Now, since when did that equate to Jews? I know plenty of American Jews who think that the state of Israel is an apartheid state that should be boycotted and that its leaders should be sent to the Hague and tried for crimes against humanity.

    No, domestic Zionist pressure comes from all walks of life. Just ask low-lives like Dennis Ross and Mike Huckabee.

  16. insanity

    I can’t answer for your american friends.

    Acquaintances of yours, you say?

    If they judge Israel to be an apartheid state they are deluded (surprise?)
    israel does not meet the criteria. go figure.

    Crimes against humanity: Where are the indictments?

    Zionist pressure: People from all walks of life, as you say, defend the right of existence of the jewish state of israel. what’s your point?

    Question: What is your mental age: 8-11? 12-14?

  17. Sanity:

    “1. jews in the USA are the main stumbling block to peace in the ME

    stumbling block to peace in ME is ‘domestic Zionist pressure’ in the US. Now, since when did that equate to Jews?”

    Sanity, it is simple.
    Read slowly and try to understand:

    Jews in the US… (did it state all the Jews or only Jews?)

    You stated domestic Zionist preasure in the US… (who is the head of the Zionist federation in the US, A Christian? A Muslim? or a Jew?).

    So this equates.

    As for: “I know plenty of American Jews who think that the state of Israel is an apartheid state that should be boycotted and that its leaders should be sent to the Hague and tried for crimes against humanity.”

    I know plenty of Israeli Jews who think the same and plenty of Israeli non Jews who think this is nonesense.

    So where does that leave us?

    The main point is that Israel treats all of its citizens in a far more humane way than many countries which routinly criticise it for human rights viloations.

    finaly I noted you call people in the US and else where who support Zionism “low lives”.

    Now who’s got supremecy issues?

  18. Insanity,

    “And actually, this was the accusation: ‘Israel intentionally fires at ambulances, old people, and children.’ Now, take out the word ‘intentionally’ and I’ll agree with it.”

    Take out the word “intentionally” and it changes everything. Take out that single word and the lie that Israel targets ambulances, old people and children becomes the truth that the Arab settlers constantly put their ambulances, old people and children in the line of fire intentionally so as to force Israel to one of two outcomes: 1) Hold fire and let the Arab aggressors engage in their hostilities with impunity; 2) Fire regardless, and then the victims among the ambulances, old people and children can be used as propaganda material for Marxist useful idiots like you in the West to lap up and demonize Israel with.

    That’s the only point you raise I find worth addressing. Other than that, I’m going to issue the statement that all opponents of Israel, provides of aid and comfort to the Islamic imperialists who wish to rob the Jews of their one and only state on their one and only indigenous territory in the world, deserve: You have no right to speak.

  19. What kind of credibility do leftists think they have? Their only clout comes from being part of the chattering (or babbling) classes (journalists, pseudo-academics, commentators that don´t know jack-sh*t, movie directors and such). And they love to feign they speak in the name of “the people”. What a joke.