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Censored at ‘Comment is Free’: Information about pro-Islamist sympathies of CiF contributors


As I observed the last time I commented on a CiF piece by Wajahat Ali, the commentator plays the Islamophobia card so liberally that he even characterized the U.S. Government’s prosecution of the Holy Land Foundation (HLF) as an example of anti-Muslim racism.

Far from a racist witch hunt, the FBI prosecution of HLF for the “charity” group’s ties to terrorism resulted in five convictions – including “conspiracy to provide material support to a foreign terrorist organization (Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood), providing material support to a foreign terrorist, and conspiracy to commit money laundering”.

The case was dubbed the “largest terrorism financing prosecution in American history”.

Ali can be seen here contributing essays to the English website of the Muslim Brotherhood. One such essay included, in the “related article” section beneath an Ali piece, an essay titled “Israel is Effecting Holocaust in Gaza“. 

For those unaware of the MB, you can see the group’s spiritual leader, Sheik Yousuf al-Qaradawi, in a released WikiLeaks cable, asking Allah to kill every last Jew on earth.

Undaunted, CiF again commissioned Ali to opine on American Islamophobia, in “Lowe’s pulls TV ads – and gives a Christmas gift to Target et all“, Dec. 14, on the decision by the American retail chain to pull its advertising from TLC’s reality TV show “All-American Muslim”.

While Lowe’s decision certainly seems, on the face of it, entirely unjustifiable, it’s reasonable to question why CiF would choose someone affiliated with the MB to opine on bigotry in the U.S. – especially while not revealing the author’s Islamist sympathies.

Here’s one comment left by a reader beneath the line of Ali’s commentary.

WWMichaelPalinDo

14 December 2011 1:31PM

 

Wajahat

I absolutely agree that it is absurd and obnoxious to withdraw advertising from All-American Muslim: a show which follows very integrated and largely non practicing Muslims in America.

A stupider or nastier decision it would be hard to find.

HOWEVER, I’m very concerned by your own politics. Here is an article you wrote in the Guardian a couple of years ago, slamming the successful prosecution of the Holy Land Foundation

The HLF trial uncovered a significant network of funding, propagandising and political fronts for Hamas/Muslim Brotherhood in the USA. Those fronts were explicitly set up for two purposes:

1. To demolish the Oslo peace initiatives; and

2. The secure Hamas/Muslim Brotherhood leadership of US Muslim community politics.

One of the most remarkable pieces of evidence in the Holy Land Foundation trial was this document, entitled “On the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America.” :

The Ikhwan must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and ‘sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers, so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.

These Hamas/Muslim Brotherhood fronts included some organisations which I understand you’ve been involved with yourself.

Now look. Most people here will stand up against rabble rousing and bigotry towards Muslims. However, it really does not help to have the case against Muslim-bating made by somebody with your politics.

CiF moderator Isabella Mackie (who, for those unaware, is Guardian Editor Alan Rusbridger’s daughter) was none too pleased, writing to the heterodox commenter:

A lot of off topic comments here. The article is about an American TV programme, an American TV channel, and an American family organisation. All the comments about the Muslim brotherhood etc will be removed.

Our commenter responded to Mackie’s warning:

WWMichaelPalinDo

14 December 2011 4:45PM

Response to IsabellaMackie, 14 December 2011 4:22PM

 

Bella

I really wouldn’t recommend deleting the comment in which I discuss the wisdom of commissioning an article, attacking anti-Muslim bigotry, written by a writer who appears to have been a Muslim Brotherhood activist, and who previously wrote an article attacking the US Government for prosecuting the Holy Land Foundation for terrorist fundraising.

Do you not remember the Dilpazier Aslam/Hizb ut Tahrir affair?

The Guardian commissioned a writer who was linked to Hizb ut Tahrir, but didn’t disclose his extreme politics. Eventually, the Guardian dismissed Mr Aslam, paid him compensation, and put up a correction.

Now look. It plainly is relevant to this article, that the person who has written it has a background in a Muslim Brotherhood group, and has previously attacked the prosecution of Muslim Brotherhood/Hamas linked terrorist fundraising.

In fact, it is highly relevant to a very important point: namely, “are people with a background in Islamist politics best placed to campaign against anti-Muslim hatred?”

My view, and that of a lot of other opponents of bigotry and discrimination, is that they hinder the fight against anti-Muslim hatred.

Shortly after this exchange, these comments were deleted, and the commenter banned.

What this commenter was pointing out, which evidently runs afoul of ‘community standards’ at CiF, is that proponents or defenders of militant Islam (a movement whose ideology is based on hate and intolerance towards Jews and all non-believers) have absolutely no moral authority when taking a stand against racism.

A genuinely liberal newspaper would understand this painfully obvious and intuitive truth.

24 replies »

  1. Isabella Mackie was given a good kicking by this Cif contributor and threw her toys out of the pram like the childish little twerp she is.

    The weird thing is that the Guardian promotes reactionary Islamic bigots, like Wajahat Ali and still thinks it’s a liberal newspaper. How creepy is that?

  2. Bella’s back, but she needs another spell in rehab: cue music:

    They Wanna Schlep Belle Back to Rehab
    (to the tune of: “They Wanna Take Me Back to Rehab.”)
    (Hat tip: Amy Winehouse)

    They wanna schlep Belle back to rehab,
    She says, “oy gevult.”
    Rustbucket pays the bill;
    He’s robbed it from the Guardian till.
    She’s not quite adult.

    Bridge: It’s a Guide for the Perplexed,
    But the Papa says she’s schmecked.
    They wanna schlep her back,
    Once Dad’s given her the sack.
    Says he’s been hen-pecked.

    They wanna schlep Belle back to rehab,
    From Cif’s House of Horror.
    They thought Matt a tocha lekker,
    But instead he was a schmecker.
    She said “keyn eyna hora.”

    Bridge 2: The she’ll join the Guardian crew;
    And they do abortions too.
    They wanna schlep Belle back to rehab.
    She says: “Gott in Himmel.”
    They wanna schlep Belle back to rehab.
    She says, “Ich bin Ferschimmelt.”

    DS Al Coda

  3. Bella Mackie just read her Thick-Twitted Tweets on Twitter and her articles on CiF (if you could call them articles) to get a picture of this woman’s intelligence.

    Daddy’s little girl definitely didn’t get this cushy job because of her intellect

    I would love to read her resume…..”Being the Rustbuckets daughter has it’s benefits”.

  4. That commenter was banned,most pro-Israeli commenters have been banned if this Bella Mackie character,who has form, keeps banning pro-Israeli posters or posters who show any signs of being balanced towards Israel she will be left with Berchmans and a few more of his ilk…………….

    That CiF stinks and the head of that smelly fish is Bella Mackie………..The Rustbuckets daughter……….

  5. “The article is about an American TV programme, an American TV channel and an American family organisation”. I.e – we expect you to bash Americans, especially those who belong to ‘family organisations’ (the kind of organisation that no doubt makes Guardian blood run cold),

    If she can’t see how reasonable and on-topic the commenter’s comments were then… well, we’re not supposed to make ad hominem remarks here. But you know I’m thinking them!

  6. Proof, if ever it were needed, that Guardian is a front for islamist organisations. It promotes jihad, sharia and Arabic culture in Britain. This is what being “progressive” is all about: islamism.

  7. Isabella Mackie: “All the comments about the Muslim brotherhood etc will be removed.”

    That is just such bollocks. The MB in itself is of little relevance to the article – but WWMichaelPalin’s comments are completely relevant as regards the author. Such a polite and eloquent poster, too.

  8. Not entirely applicable to the Islamist shill, Isabella Mackie, but useful perhaps to know of the following publication:

    Lawfare: The War against Free Speech by Brooke Goldstein and Aaron Eitan Meyer

    http://thewaragainstfreespeech.com/about-the-book/

    Quote The free speech rights of authors, researchers and journalists writing on Islamic terrorism are increasingly under attack through both violent and non-violent means. An important non-violent challenge to free speech has emerged in the form of “lawfare,” the negative manipulation of international and national laws to achieve purposes other than, or contrary to those for which they were originally enacted.

    The strategic end of Islamist lawfare is to further the goals of the Islamist movement, one of which is to abolish public discourse critical of Islam and punish anything deemed blasphemous to its prophet, Mohammad. Another goal of Islamist lawfare is to impede the free flow of public information about the threat of Islamist terrorism, thereby limiting our ability to understand it and destroy it. In this way, Islamist lawfare takes the form of a complementary legal campaign to terrorism and asymmetric warfare. endquote

    • And of course the Guardian threatens lawfare, implicitly, about our dear not-so-esteemed Shameless Milne’s possible/probable connections with the PFLP.

      Rustbucket and Co would not last long if there were to be significant Islamist power in the UK.

      For one thing they’d be bed-bound, having twisted themselves out of shape for so long that they couldn’t stand up.

    • A little late, perhaps, but there is Shurat HaDin, in Israel and New York but not, sadly, in the UK where it is definitely needed.

  9. I think we can get a good picture of the depths to which CiF has sunk if Bella Mackie, she with the brain of an amoeba (yes, OK, I know that amoebas don’t have brains) is given the authority to decide what’s fitting and what is not.

    I confess to being amazed, however, that none of them have copped on to the fact that if they publish the combination of Islamist-supporting rubbish and ill-thought-out trash then their readers will complain and argue with it and with them! Can they possibly believe that scores of deletions or disappeared posts on every thread are evidence of open debate? (That’s a rhetorical question. I doubt that it’s even crossed their minds).

    Hey, Bella, if you are looking in, please read the comments here. They hold up a mirror to your lack of common sense and intelligence and indicate where you need to improve. And then pass them on to Daddy, there’s a good girl

  10. Someone called Isablla Mackie the C word on twitter,and Isabella Mackie was not amused.

    I guess that that someone would know Isabella Mackie a lot better than we do………

  11. OMG what a set of internet hardmen. So a poster is banned from Cif. So what? That means it was some sort of cover-up? There are umpteen reasons why this happened but I suppose it’s just the style of this site to leap to the most overblown and ridiculous conclusions. Did you ever stop to think this was because Mickey Palin might be a banned user who tried to return? That happens all the time on Cif as you guys know. Wise up and stop this misogynistic bitching – this site’s members should know better.

    • There are many banned users who return and the Groan turns a blind eye, provided that they are not pro-Israel.

      LaRitournelle is one such, with the mouth and mind of a sewer, but she has been banned for antisemitism so that’s OK

      Of more interest is why that waste of space and brains of a rocking-horse Berchmans has never been banned, in spite of contributing next to nothing to discussion and open antisemitism.

  12. Crab: “Proof, if ever it were needed, that Guardian is a front for islamist organisations. It promotes jihad, sharia and Arabic culture in Britain. This is what being “progressive” is all about: islamism.”

    That’s obviously Islamophobic – why does this site harbour you?

    • no it isn’t cousinbenson. It’s fair comment but has yet to be proven. It asks front line Islamist terrorists and their bag carriers to write for it and fastidiously deletes any posts which disagree with their hateful views proves Crab’s points.

      Anyone notice similarities between cousinbenson and other posters who attack CiFWatch for similar views and equally misguidedly?

  13. Dire nepotism at its worst. Mr Rustbucket – you and your bullying daughter (smothering a perfectly reasonable commenter) are a real real shame to journalism! (Which is hardly news to anyone, though).

  14. She is a fluffy little airhead,she wouldn’t know the meaning of the word “Integrity” if she looked it up in a dictionary……