General Antisemitism

Antisemitism with a literary glow: Alice Walker’s ugly caricature of Israeli Jews


Written by Hadar Sela and Adam Levick

“Jesus, a Palestinian – is still being crucified.” (Alice Walker’s blog, per CAMERA)

“[Israeli] settlers are the [Ku Klux] Klan” (Alice Walker, during interview with Jesse Rosenfeld.)

“I think Israel is the greatest terrorist in that part of the world. And I think in general, the United States and Israel are great terrorist organizations themselves.”  (Alice Walker, Foreign Policy, in June, 2011.)

“I feel that the Israel that many Jews dreamed of having – that one is gone. That’s demolished. I think it’s time for people to accept that. Because what you have now is something that is so frightening. Israel is as frightening to many of us as Germany used to be.” (Alice Walker: Why I’m joining the Freedom Flotilla to Gaza, Guardian, June 25, 2011).”

The literary foot-stomping  which is Alice Walker’s recent refusal to permit her book ‘The Colour Purple’ to be translated into Hebrew – bizarre as it is – can hardly have come as much of a surprise to anyone familiar with the writer’s history of anti-Israel activism. Neither does the Guardian’s decision to showcase extensive sections of Walker’s letter of refusal to the would-be publisher exactly come as a shock.

Walker is a long-standing activist in the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement (BDS), and indeed allowed her letter to the Israeli publisher which requested permission to translate the book to be posted on the website of PACBI – the Palestinian Campaign for Academic and Cultural Boycott of Israel – which leads and sets the tone for the BDS campaign.

PACBI does not aspire to a two-state solution – it promotes the ‘return’ of millions of descendants of Palestinian refugees, thereby rejecting the existence of Israel within any borders. PACBI opposes ‘normalisation’ and has produced a document which defines that term as:

“participating in any project, initiative or activity whether locally or internationally, that is designed to bring together-whether directly or indirectly Palestinian and/or Arab youth with Israelis (whether individuals or institutions) and is not explicitly designed to resist or expose the occupation and all forms of discrimination and oppression inflicted upon the Palestinian people.”

PACBI founding member and steering committee member Omar Barghouti believes (mistakenly) that:

“International law does give people under occupation the right to resist in any way, including armed resistance”.

In other words, Alice Walker chose to make her statement on the platform of an organization which aspires, by any means, to oppose co-existence in the Middle East and bring about an end to the Jewish state.

That too should not be surprising, for another of Alice Walker’s pet hobbies is supporting an additional Palestinian organization which opposes dialogue, seeks to bring about the end of Israel and openly calls for the murder of Jews – Hamas.

In 2011 Walker joined the (failed) flotilla to Gaza, engaging in self-promotion on the pages of the Guardian (where else?) along the way. Walker’s flowery prose was full of buzz-words such as ‘justice’ and ‘respect’, but any concern for the people of Israel’s south – battered and traumatized for over a decade by the terror organizations involved in organizing that flotilla – was remarkably absent, as Howard Jacobson pointed out to her at the time.

And then of course there is Alice Walker’s involvement in that self-appointed kangaroo court-cum-echo chamber known as the Russell Tribunal on Palestine, which flits from venue to venue in order to reach the foregone conclusion of Israeli’s immutable guilt based on carefully pre-selected ‘evidence’.

Walker claims that her decision not to allow her book to be translated into Hebrew is part of her ongoing attempt to “rid humanity of its self-destructive habit of dehumanizing whole populations”, yet it has obviously never occurred to her that she is supremely guilty of that fault herself.

A woman who would liken Israelis who live on the “wrong” side of the green line” to the KKK is an unserious political poser – an extremist engaged in incendiary, hateful, and dehumanizing rhetoric about hundreds of thousands of Jews.

A once  celebrated literary figure who holds steady with the sophomoric belief that the United States and Israel are the “great terrorist organizations” of our time is someone who has become a 60’s political anachronism: an embarrassment to those who may have succumbed to the temptation of imputing to Walker true wisdom by virtue of her literary achievements.

A person who excuses terror and murder by claiming that “[t]his is David and Goliath, but Goliath is not the Palestinians. They are David. They are the ones with the slingshot. They are the ones with the rocks and relatively not-so-powerful rockets. Whereas the Israelis have these incredibly damaging missiles and rockets” is severely lacking in even basic human empathy.

Much of Walker’s self-allocated expertise and supreme authority on the subjects of terrorism, discrimination and apartheid is, by her own account, based upon her experiences growing up in the south of the United States.

But by choosing to support a plethora of organisations which seek to deny Jews the right to self-determination like any other nation in the world and in promoting her own radical-chic credentials by deeming a language – and the nation which speaks it – beyond the pale, Walker shows herself to be no better than the Deep South racists of her youth.

Walker, schooled in the art of compassion, liberalism (and the theology of liberation) evidently fails to note the succor she is providing for the most illiberal, reactionary Islamist movements: forces of antisemitic intolerance which resemble – indeed, wildly exceed – the fervor of hardcore racism arduously defended during the 1950s and 1960s in places like Jackson, Mississippi and Birmingham, Alabama.

In an essay which Walker wrote in 2009, she described giving a gift to a Palestinian woman:

“I gave her a gift I had brought, and she thanked me. Looking into my eyes she said: May God Protect You From the Jews. When the young Palestinian interpreter told me what she’d said, I responded: It’s too late, I already married one.” [emphasis added]

It may be too later for her, but Alice Walker seems intent on at least protecting others from the perfidy of the Jewish people.

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  1. Walker is a disgrace. Because of an unpleasant personal association she brands a whole people and what’s more broadcasts her deplorable standards. To see what kind of people she and the Guardian appeal to you just have to read the often frankly antisemitic comments made under her ‘article’.

    • Oh yes, the usual suspects were spouting their strong admiratinon and approval of Walker’s views. Anyone who dared challenge Walker’s hate speech and actions was shouted down or selectively moderated. I wish I could say that came as a shock, but knowing the Guardian, it really didn’t!

  2. FIrstly, your quotes do not show in any way that she is sharing a platform with a group opposed to the existence in the Middle East of a Jewish state, merely that it opposes occupation, discrimination and oppression. Which I presume you also oppose? Oh, wait, I forgot that you support religious fundamentalism of the Jewish variety. Silly me!

    Second, it is not racist to think that there is a poor case for the existence of a particular national state. Many ‘national groups’ do not have states of their own. Kurds, Kosovars, Basque, Scots, Bavarians, Quechua. I could go on and on. Are we racist if we deny the right to exist of a Quechua state in the Andean highlands? Should Mary Queen of Scots be resurrected?

    The ridiculousness of the argument is apparent.

    • Anti-Semites and Israel haters like you make their colors known when they oppose national determination for only one people on earth: the Jewish people. You certainly don’t oppose for all the others, if they wanted a state you would support it. But a Jewish State gnaws you and enrages you and its existence you find intolerable.

      The pathetic nature and hypocrisy of your non-sequitur is obvious to every one in this world. Save it for those who care!

        • Interestingly enough, though, you’re not so eager to dismantle Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia & Herzegovina, and reform them back into a single Yugoslavia…
          What about the reclamation of Czechoslovakia that also split on Ethnic considerations…
          You won’t? Really? You don’t say…

          • Er, I’d be more than happy to consider putting them back into a single state.Better would be to have them join the EU and have the EU eventually become a single state. But I’m open to other options, too.

            Now, instead of providing me with less mental stimulation than masturbation, how about trying to educate yourself?

            • Frankly, in your present state of mind, I’d rather not provide any more “mental stimulation”… you seem to be teetering on the cusp, as it were. Maybe that “masturbation” you suggested will help you, who knows?
              At any rate, what you mean to tell me, through your uncouth and callous babbling, is that you would, in Czechoslovakia, contrary to those peoples’ aspirations(as voiced in the “Velvet Revolution”) simply impose your cosmopolitan(and deranged) view of the world on those who don’t want it?
              And, if your definition of “progress”, means restoring people, who were under the threat of full fledged civil war, that could potentially have killed tens of thousands more, in Yugoslavia, to very a much a similar fate and precipice, I’d like to congratulate you: You’re a loon!

              • No, I just think that separation and apartheid are not the best way to solve conflict situations. And the weight of evidence of peacebuilding suggests the same.

                In fact, a good old wank would be far better than everything you are proposing.

          • Interestingly enough, though, you’re not so eager to dismantle Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia & Herzegovina, and reform them back into a single Yugoslavia…
            What about the reclamation of Czechoslovakia that also split on Ethnic considerations…

            The real issue here is democracy. If the people of the FY want a reunited Yugoslavia or a bunch of separate ethnic states, that’s their business. If the Serbs of Krajina want to reverse the injustice of their expulsion and want international solidarity, they have to work for it just like Palestinian activists have to.

            If the Palestinian refugees of 1948 and their later generations do not want their country to be a Jewish state, that’s their business as well. When it comes to self-determination, the ends don’t justify the means, and it shouldn’t come at the price of creating an involuntary diaspora.

            • You forget that sometimes, people can’t live together. That’s a fact we’ve seen more acutely in Yugoslavia, but it was also the case for the Czechs and Slovaks, who decided, based on their ethnic difference to split apart.

              Secondly, you’ve also neglected, that throughout history, nations were formed on the basis of demographic integrity:
              Czechoslovakia was cleared of nearly 2.5 million(!) Sudeten Germans, Poland’s Germans were removed in the ranks of 3 million, and all in all, the path was paved for harmonic and wholesome nation-states, knowing that the presence of an obstructive minority could endanger the integrity and unison of those countries.
              Should we therefore dismantle Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, the Tirol(in Italy), and so forth? Your only opposition is to Jewish self-determination, of all other peoples’.
              Furthermore, regarding your classification of “…their later generations…”.
              It’s a shame those very Germans(those expelled following WW2) cannot express/conduct their “business” like you mention; Displays of German irredentism is forbidden by law in Germany. No wonder though, right?

              • “It’s a shame those very Germans(those expelled following WW2) cannot express/conduct their “business” like you mention; Displays of German irredentism is forbidden by law in Germany. No wonder though, right?”

                So it’s illegal for any German citizen to complain about their expulsion from E. Europe post-WWII? Or are you comparing the wish for the Palestinians to return home with the Nazi drive for lebensraum?

                “Czechoslovakia was cleared of nearly 2.5 million(!) Sudeten Germans, Poland’s Germans were removed in the ranks of 3 million, and all in all, the path was paved for harmonic and wholesome nation-states”

                What I really, really like here is how the USSR is notably absent from the list of states that expelled ethnic Germans post-WWII. Also, what do you think Germany under the NSDAP was trying to do? Create, in your words, a ‘harmonic and wholesome’ nation-state. So how is it the removal of the Palestinians by the Haganah is comparable to the removal of ethnic Germans from P and C, but the removal of undesirables from the expanded German Reich is completely taboo?

                Well, shee-it, aren’t I just asking a question I already know the answer to. You think the removal of the ethnic Germans from E. Europe was justified, regardless of how little they had anything to do with the Nazis, but of course the Nazi rampage was just flat-out evil. So it’s like I’ve been saying in this thread already, sometimes it’s okay to remove civilians by force, just not when it’s you.

                Why don’t we remove all the Jews from Eretz Israel? That will create a ‘harmonic and wholesome’ nation state and bring peace. That’s exactly what you support, when it’s somebody else who’s getting removed.

                “Should we therefore dismantle Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, the Tirol(in Italy), and so forth? Your only opposition is to Jewish self-determination, of all other peoples’.”

                Anyone whose ancestors were expelled from a country has the right to push for their own right of return. That goes for ethnic Germans who were kicked out of P and C (and the USSR, but we can’t mention that since it would be like comparing Israel to Stalin). Of course it also goes for Jews who were kicked out of Europe or the Arab countries; just because you’d rather build a fort in Israel doesn’t mean everyone has to give up their right.

                • There are a few problems with your argument, one being that you’re equating “Palestinians” with actual historically distinct peoples and cultures, i.e. Germans, Czechs, Poles, etc. who lived in historically distinct countries named after them. Second, there was no country called Palestine until the British decided there would be, in part to re-create a Jewish National Home on Jewish ancestral lands.
                  You are attempting to create a national group and a historically non-existent country retroactively. That’s not going to fly here. Take it to the cool-aid drinkers at the Guardian.

                  “Anyone whose ancestors were expelled from a country has the right to push for their own right of return.”
                  People have a right to push any agenda they want, that doesn’t mean they get what they want, children, and it certainly doesn’t mean they get to have an independent U.N. member state turned over to them. The sovereign gets to decide who to allow or not allow onto it’s territory. It’s one of the rights that comes with sovereignty, and, Israel is the sovereign. That’s it. If Israel wishes to negotiate a “return” of some number of individuals whose ancestors may have lived on its territory at some time or other in the past and fled the Arab launched war of 1948 to deny the internationally recognized national rights of the Jews, that’s Israel’s choice to make, not yours or anyone else’s.

                  I had some ancestors who at one time lived in Russia and fled. If Russia doesn’t want me I don’t have a right to turn myself into a latter day version of Murder Incorporated or lock my own family in cages until they see things my way. If I did, I would be acting like a thug, or the Palestinian leadership. Or I could simply hold my breath until I turned the color purple.

                  • “you’re equating “Palestinians” with actual historically distinct peoples and cultures, i.e. Germans, Czechs, Poles, etc. who lived in historically distinct countries named after them”

                    Actually, this has nothing to do with what I wrote. There were people living in Palestine whom the Zionist colonial-settlers wanted to remove. Whatever they called themselves, Arabs, Muslims or Palestinians, they had the right to resist forced displacement. When people first started calling themselves Palestinian is a tangent.

                    “The sovereign gets to decide who to allow or not allow onto it’s territory. It’s one of the rights that comes with sovereignty, and, Israel is the sovereign. That’s it.”

                    That’s it. No problem with the Nuremberg Acts, then. Germany gets to decide to bar Jews from citizenship because that’s one of the rights that comes with sovereignty. Let’s make a deal: I’ll turn my back on the Palestinians and embrace Zionism (Maybe even make aliya) if I can find one pro-Zionist argument that doesn’t sound like a rehash of what the 19th/20th century antisemites wrote about the German nation and the people who don’t belong in it.

                    “If Russia doesn’t want me I don’t have a right to turn myself into a latter day version of Murder Incorporated or lock my own family in cages until they see things my way. If I did, I would be acting like a thug, or the Palestinian leadership.”

                    Fair enough, but you have to account for how you’ll behave when Russia repeatedly invades and bombards the place your family fled to, and by the way, to this day Russia is still doing it to you. That’s the experience of the Palestinian exiles in Lebanon, Syria and Jordan (Not to mention the West Bank and Gaza).

                    • andrew r: “Let’s make a deal: I’ll turn my back on the Palestinians and embrace Zionism (Maybe even make aliya) if I can find one pro-Zionist argument that doesn’t sound like a rehash of what the 19th/20th century antisemites wrote about the German nation and the people who don’t belong in it.”

                      What people don’t belong in Israel? A fifth of the population is non-Jewish– about 20 times larger a percentage of non Jews than non-Germans in pre-war Germany. About 5 times larger a percentage of Muslims than live in Britain today.

                      And how is this for a Zionist argument: Germany slaughtered 6 million Jews, and not one nation on earth offered them shelter. Not one.
                      Your comparison of Zionism to German nationalism omits the most relevant issue at hand– the literal survival of the human beings in question.

                      Your lack of concern on this point, and your readiness to equate Zionism with German nationalism in the first place, reveal what is really going on here. It is a backdoor analogy with Nazism, because we all know what German nationalism turned into.

                      Any comparison of Israel to Nazi Germany is antisemitism– it is a blood libel, because it compares the only Jewish state in the world to the most evil state ever to have existed. Many other states–eg, Britain, the US, the USSR, China, France– have nationalism, have racism, have colonialism– but only Israel is compared to Germany, over and and over again by its opponents.

                      We see through you.

                    • With respect to the Palestinians, some 60 million refugees were created by the wars of the twentieth century. The vast majority have gone on to make new lives for themselves, including half of Israel’s Jewish population, who fled from Muslim states. Most Arab states have chosen to use the Palestinians as a weapon against Israel, rather than accepting them as citizens, including Palestinians born in these states. The anti-Israel crowd shows no concern for this, because they too want to use these human beings as weapons against Israel.

                    • Andrew,
                      I read your reply. You’re nuts.
                      Dan,
                      Thanks for picking up the ball. I just don’t have the time today to go through Andrew’s ahistorical nonsense and non-analagous analogies.
                      You did good job addressing him. Thanks. Have a nice day.

                    • “Any comparison of Israel to Nazi Germany is antisemitism– it is a blood libel, because it compares the only Jewish state in the world to the most evil state ever to have existed.”

                      It’s okay to compare the Palestinian refugees to the post-WWII German refugees, though, which effectively compares Israel to the USSR. That’s not a blood libel?

                    • jeff: thanks for your efforts here as well.

                      Andrew r seeks to blur the understanding of what constitutes a blood libel. The Nazi analogy is specifically a blood libel because it is the trope to which Israel haters return to again and again. The signs at anti-Israel rallies equating the star of David to a swastika, for example. It is a meme that haters of Israel wish to spread far and wide, embedding it in people’s minds. Anti-Israel intellectuals carry this revolting equation into political discourses, with all its layers of insensitivities to those who suffered the most from the Nazis, precisely because the Nazi regime had to be destroyed at all costs.

                      And that is what they want to see happen to Israel.

                    • A classical of the New anti-Semitism: Bringing in the Jew-slaughtering Nazis and equating them to the Jews in Israel.
                      No need to argue with deranged people like him.

                    • “Bringing in the Jew-slaughtering Nazis and equating them to the Jews in Israel.”

                      I’d appreciate a verbatim quote demonstrating I’ve actually done this. Seems reasonable, right?

              • If you actually read about the Yugoslav conflict instead of pontificating about it, then you would know that the academic consensus is that no, there are not irreconcilable ethnic differences between these people, and that the major reason they became involved in a conflict was cynical manipulation by political elites. Sound familiar?!!

                Actually, evidence suggests that people can live together, and peacebuilding programs tend to have high success rates, especially if they understand the underlying political economy of violence.

            • Nice to see the educated crowd here voting down a statement supporting democratic principles! Must be all that exposure they’ve had to the most progressive country in the Middle East!

              • Well, gee wiz, Inanity, why don’t you tell us who the most progressive country in the Middle East really is?!
                (and I just can’t wait for your “answer”).

    • But Israel does exist already and, unlike others you’ve mentioned, has been independent for over six decades. To oppose it is to suggest that 7.5 million people should be dispossesed. I’m assuming you would dispossess all its people – Arabs, Druze and others along with Jews?

      You have written an indignant comment stating that “your quotes do not show in any way that she [Walker] is sharing a platform with a group opposed to the existence in the Middle East of a Jewish State”. And then promptly asserted – without evidence – that Adam/Cif Watch (it’s unclear) supports religious fundamentalism of the Jewish variety. Well, silly you!

      Should Mary Queen of Scots be resurrected? The ridiculousness of your comment entire is apparent.

      Next you’ll be telling me that you care about the Palestinian people.

      • I didn’t propose suggesting that Israel’s 7.5 million people should be dispossessed. You’re putting words in my mouth.

        It’s quite self-evident that this website supports religious fundamentalism. Your request for evidence is little like asking for evidence that the Koran is a reigious document.

        • Did I say you, personally proposed it?

          “It’s quite self-evident that this website supports religious fundamentalism”

          Not to me it isn’t. If I do not see support for religious fundamentalism on CiF Watch then my request for evidence is perfectly valid.

          • Penny (hasn’t dropped yet): ‘I’m assuming you would dispossess all its people – Arabs, Druze and others along with Jews?’

            Er, who was that referring to exactly? D’oh!

            • Sanity – you seem to be having some difficulty with this. Perhaps the nuance was too delicate for you. I’ll explain.

              The clue is in the word “assuming” followed by the use of quite specific punctuation at the end of the sentence.

              Thus the comment to which you refer is, therefore, a question and not a statement. A question invites you to accept or refute the premise. It is not at all the same thing as an accusation such that you should consider me to be putting words in your mouth.

              D’oh!

                • And the question mark is what, exactly?

                  If you can see but one meaning or tone to a statement set in context then I cannot help you. Except to say that it will lead you to state – and probably think – absolutes.

      • But Israel does exist already and, unlike others you’ve mentioned, has been independent for over six decades. To oppose it is to suggest that 7.5 million people should be dispossesed. I’m assuming you would dispossess all its people – Arabs, Druze and others along with Jews?

        You can’t support the Zionist project and claim to be against dispossession in toto. Anyone who supports Israel’s continuation as a Jewish state, whether they will admit it or not, is rubber stamping an act of military expulsion. No one really knows what will be the result of de-Zionizing Palestine, but the status quo is not acceptable now, and opposing it does not mean automatically accepting whatever follows.

        • andrew r is having his fantasy dream right in front of us. Alas, poor Andrew, it is a sado-masochistic fantasy.
          By the way, Andrew, I personally like to use the indigenous name, Israel, rather than that old colonialist chestnut “Palestine.”

          You cannot support the bogus “Palestinian cause” and claim to be against dispossession in toto. Anyone who supports Israel’s discontinuation as a Jewish state, whether they will admit it or not, is rubber stamping an act of military expulsion, and a deeply anti-Semitic yearning for genocide . People, those who are not sharing space in andrew’s fantasy bubble, pretty much know what will be the result of taking away the right of the Jewish people to their homeland, and the status quo while not ideal is by far more preferable.
          Opposing this status quo for a game of Russian roulette with the gun pointed at the Jews just doesn’t cut the mustard andrew r.
          My advice. Go take a walk.

          • That is, I’m an expert, I KNOW what will happen in a hypothetical future, so shut up and stop trying to play with my toys!

            andrew r, these folks are not worth the effort. better to go and take a dump. you’ll learn more.

            • “andrew r, these folks are not worth the effort. better to go and take a dump. you’ll learn more.”
              Finally, your solipsistic fantasy of your own supremacy comes to the fore like scum rising to the top of a pond, but at some point you’ll have to check in with reality.

        • andrew r – you should try thinking in terms of real people, not virtual images in an online game. If you were to do that you might realise that Israelis are not a ‘project’ and that Palestinians should not be condemned to a victimhood of your choosing.

          “Anyone who supports Israel’s continuation as a Jewish state, whether they will admit it or not, is rubber stamping an act of military expulsion”

          You need to clarify this statement.

          “No one really knows what will be the result of de-Zionizing Palestine”

          de-Zionising? Do explain.

          “but the status quo is not acceptable now, and opposing it does not mean automatically accepting whatever follows.”

          Again – you need to clairfy this statement because it strikes me as woolly. Opposing things as they are now doesn’t necessarily mean you accept what follows? What do you think might follow the ‘de-zionising’ of Israel.

          The way you write and the terms you use are ugly. That you have a problem with Israel is obvious, but you show no honest and genuine concern for the Palestinians either.

    • You’re absolutely right Sanity and for the time being that includes the Palestinians and as long as their leaders continue to pursue a genocidal course towards Israel , it will remain so for the foreseeable future .

    • The specious arguments about Israeli \”apartheid\” aside, the whole genesis of this story is Walker\’s refusal to autograph a Hebrew version of her book. That is a reaction to Jews, not just Israel.

      Going back to the part of the argument, it\’s amazing how Israel-bashing libero-fascists like you are so quick to condemn Israel for the slightest hint of a lack of egalitarianism, yet you ignore \”Palestinian\” (it is after all, invented) attempts to deny Israel\’s existence.

      When confronted, you then typically say \”oh yes, that too.\”

      • “The specious arguments about Israeli \”apartheid\” aside…”
        They’re not so much arguments as slurs.

    • Walker has equated Israel to Nazi Germany. That is an antisemitic act.

      Many of the national minorities you cite do deserve a nation state, precisely because of their history of having been persecuted. Why should there be a couple dozen Arab states, but no Kurdish state, when the Kurds have been persecuted by Arabs, Persians, and Turks?
      The case for the existence of Israel is self-evident, due to centuries of persecution by Christians and Muslims.
      You are racist for denying the right of Israel to exist.

    • (in)Sanity,
      Firstly, she gets her facts wrong. And she has a real blind spot for discrimination of the Arab nationalist, Islamist and anti-Semitic varieties which I suppose you do too. Oh wait, I forgot that you and she support religious fundamentalism of the Islamic variety. Silly you!

      “Second, it is not racist to think that there is a poor case for the existence of a particular national state. Many ‘national groups’ do not have states of their own. Kurds, Kosovars, Basque, Scots, Bavarians, Quechua.”

      I notice you didn’t mention Palestinians in this little diatribe. How telling that is. I also notice you didn’t mention any existing nation states (other than the Jewish one) that it would be O.K. to do away with. In other words you compared apple to oranges.
      Some differences between the Kurds and the Palestinians: the Kurds historically are a people, a national grouping. They have their own language and culture and are far greater in number. They inhabit a much greater territory, and have been far more mistreated. Unfortunately, they’re historical lands are occupied by Arab and Islamic countries not to mention they are friendly with the Israelis. It is therefore no wonder that you and your ilk are not rabid supporters of their national rights.

      The ridiculousness of your argument is apparent.

      • Some differences between the Kurds and the Palestinians

        This is the pratfall of supporting a Palestinian ‘state’. Sure, why not, they can go to the Sinai, Jordan or some glacier floating around the South Pole. That’s the Zionist attitude to the people who prevent Palestine from being an ethnically Jewish state. It’s not an issue of whether the Palestinians should have a state or not. They should not be moved around by force, which is the Zionist Project 101. It’s racist segregation that’s the underlying issue, not simply denial of national rights.

        • “They should not be moved around by force, which is the Zionist Project 101. It’s racist segregation that’s the underlying issue, not simply denial of national rights.”
          No, andrew, it’s not. That’s a propaganda ploy and a complete inversion of the Arab states’ attitude and policies toward the creation of a Jewish polity, their dispossession of the Jews from all over the M.E., and their nauseatingly poisonous rhetoric they’ve been spewing for more decades than you can remember, but to see it you’d have to look. Take a chance.

        • Only anti-Semites wish that Jews should live together with people who want to kill Jews.

          • Then every one who moved to Palestine before 1948 was an anti-semite, since there were more Arabs than Jews until then and last I heard, Arabs are genetically born with homicidal genes.

            • “…and last I heard, Arabs are genetically born with homicidal genes.”

              andrew, guess what! That’s exactly the kind of propaganda that’s spread about Jews all over the M.E., i.e., that their genetically pre-disposed to all such kinds of “inhuman” traits. But it doesn’t just end at homicidal genes, and the propaganda doesn’t only exist in the M.E.
              It’s the toxin that Arab culture pounds into the brains of its children, and it’s even available in jolly old England!

            • Anti-Semitism and logic are mutually excluding each other, which you prove convincingly.

      • you need to learn a little about the kurds rather than buying in to the fox news take on them. Claims like, they are greater in number, inhait greater territory, they have a language and culture, etc. require some backing up. In fact, it’s unclear whether there is indeed a common culture or language.

        I digress. If you want me to include other countries that somehow got ‘national’ states for bizarre reasons? How about Armenia? Or Pakistan? Or Croatia? Or Portugal?

        I really don’t care to be honest. You’re purusing a red-herring, and I think I might go back to watching Downton Abbey, which I will learn more from than a conversation with you.

        • Many Kurds (about half of them) speak Kurdish, which is called Kurdish, because it is a language spoken by Kurds. There are thirty million Kurds in the world today. (There are fewer Palestinians than that.) Yes, they have a distinct culture, and are considered by other ethnic groups in their regions to be distinct.

          I didn’t get any of those details from Fox News.

          None of those details makes the Kurdish claim to a state stronger than the Palestinian claim to a state, although I am slightly suspicious as to why the Kurdish claim to a state seems so much LESS important to many unconnected people who feel deeply about the Palestinians.

          Mainly, I’m fascinated that you, who appear to accept the Palestinian narrative of their own peoplehood and history without trouble, see similar claims for the Kurds in light of ‘Fox News’, and the need to ‘learn a little’, because it’s ‘unclear’ if they really have a distinct culture.

        • I don’t watch Fox News. Your assumption that I’m some right leaning Republican because I don’t drink anti-Zionist cool-aid is but one example of the many reasons for my falling out with the ultra-Orthodox Left and all its bullshit.
          Actually my first source for the Kurds is the late Christopher Hitchens, a great supporter of the Palestinians and no friend of Zionism, in a criticism of The Nation Magazine.

          “In fact, it’s unclear whether there is indeed a common culture or language.” Very good then. Apply that same skepticism to the notion of a distinct Palestinian people, take two aspirin and call me in the morning.

    • Sanity “The ridiculousness of the argument is apparent.”

      Yes, if you are so ignorant as to think that the history of Scottish people is the same as the Jews. Moral equivalence is always the name of the game of every pseudo intellectual having a middle-class crack at the yids.

      And since you ask, yes you probably are a racist, masquerading under the self-delusion of being anything except a chip off the old chauvinistic European block that always judges its superiority by the measure of the Jews.

      • Ah yes, Jewish people are MUCH MUCH MUCH more important than the Scots. And the Basque. And the Kurds. Etc. ad infinitum.

        I have three words for you: village idiot bigot.

        • So, that’s your whole reply? To read into his comment that he says that Jews are more important, just because you care more about Fakeastinian inconvenience than Jewish blood being splattered on the pavement?

        • Sanity: “I have three words for you: village idiot bigot.”

          Ouch! Hit a raw nerve there! Trouble is you have no moral authority when it comes to telling Jews what they are, how they should behave, where they should live or how they should die.

          You are a product of a milieu of unattractive European traits so visceral to your identity you take them for granted and consider them virtues: chauvinism, intolerance, malice and arrogance.

          You wear your hatred of the Jewish collective as a badge of honour, but in the big scheme of things Israel disempowers you. It defends itself against the hatreds that you personify and shows you up for what you really are.

          You are a fantasist with delusions of grandeur, playing with your maps and rulers, re-drawing your borders here and there with your imperial schemes for a pan-European utopia and your Juden-frei – sorry – Israel free Middle East. It isn’t going to happen. Your world view is a mirage distorted by parochial arrogance and inbred bigotry.

          • Er, no, I’m just saying that it’s not racist to merely question whether all so-called ‘national groups’ are deserving of a state. In fact, this is merely a statement of fact, since plainly such states don’t universally exist.

            Presumably because you didn’t complete 4th grade, you didn’t understand this terribly complciated argument.

            • Sanity: “Presumably because you didn’t complete 4th grade, you didn’t understand this terribly complciated argument.”

              I love this shit. You expose what a sanctimonious snob you are underneath that veneer of psuedo intellectual respectability.

              And in my defence, I have to say that education obviously isn’t everything, if it produces self-important bigots like you. You aint even that articulate! All these village idiots running rings around you.

        • “Ah yes, Jewish people are MUCH MUCH MUCH more important than the Scots. And the Basque. And the Kurds. Etc. ad infinitum.”

          It’s you who are placing the national aspirations of these groupings below that of the Palestinians. You’re slant is “Palestine uber alles.”

          • Er, no. Are you German, by the way? Why write in German? I think the language of this blog is English. Unless you’re trying to make some ueber-subtle (geddit?) point about associating critics of Israel to Nazis, which is in poor taste or racist by most definitions.

            • Forry Fanity. Ye bloggerf – verily thou fhalt apply the utmoft of caution not to place ye any mark on this new-fangled virtual paper that may derive from any tongue other than true Englifh. Oh bugger, I may have ufed fome wordf in this poft that have Latin, Greek or French routef. I do apologife.

    • Following this to its conclusion: is there also a poor case for a Palestinian state? If the Quechua or the Kurds can be (as you apparently believe) told to suck it, because history didn’t swing their way, how could it possibly be a problem to tell the Palestinians no dice?

      Have you thought this argument through? It may need some polishing, or perhaps a more detailed presentation.

      • maybe you’re right, maybe there’s no case for a palestinian state. it probably has about as much right to exist as a jewish state, but feel free to make the arguments for why they are different.

        of course, statehood is very different from the real argument that people were dispossessed of their land, their houses, their farms, their livelihoods, etc. that is the real crime.

        • Arguments can be made for why they are different, but I’m not particularly interested in making them, since I think Palestinian statehood, if it can actually happen, is probably the best resolution to the present mess. It won’t solve a lot of things. It might solve a few. So I believe there is a case for Palestinian statehood. It is you who seems to argue in your above comment that fortune favors the last guy standing, and that no one is entitled to a state if they didn’t already grab one, or lost their land to another group. It’s a poor argument, if your concern is for the Palestinians.

        • People being dispossessed of their land, houses, farms, livelihoods, etc. Maybe you mean all of the Jews that were expelled from Arab countries, numbering somewhere between 800,000-1,000,000.

          Then again, they’re just Jews. Maybe your criterion for a people deserving a state is to be invented for political purposes, like the so-called “Palestinians.”

          • blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

            • Inconvenient facts inconvenient facts inconvenient facts inconvenient facts inconvenient facts inconvenient facts inconvenient facts.

        • “maybe you’re right, maybe there’s no case for a palestinian state. it probably has about as much right to exist as a jewish state, but feel free to make the arguments for why they are different.”

          Wrong. Israel is an existing state, and therefore has the very same right to exist as every other existing state or country. The State of Israel is a fact, and its status as an existing state is protected under international law.

          Your second comment is a bunch of self-serving sanctimonious garbage designed to produce a lot of heat, but no light.

          • Good for you!

            Hiding behind international law instead of making an argument from first principles?!! Makes a difference for a Ziofascist, at least we can now discuss international law sensibly in the future, which I very much look forward to!!!

  3. Ms Walker is an odd woman.

    Anyone who has read the testimony of her neglected and estranged daughter already knows of her coldness to her child and grandchildren.

    A reasonable writer, but not a nice person.

  4. Israel don’t fret.
    You’re spared one of the most overrated and pompous books of modern times.

    The two adjectives apply equally to its author.

    • Luckily Arabic is an official language of Israel, so at least some of its citizens will be able to read it!

      • Im not normally one for boycotts , but why should she profit one cent from book sales in Israel whether in English or Hebrew .
        How about major book stores Steimatzsky etc kicking all her literary output into touch . It won’t happen but it should .

      • No, Israel and supporters of Israel point to the 20% of Israel’s citizenry that are Arab who live in peace and freedom to refute lies spread by Sanity and Sanity’s ilk that Israel is an apartheid state. It is only racist opponents of Israel who refuse to acknowledge Arab Israelis as Israelis, since it does not jibe with their prejudices about Israeli treatment of minorities.

        Contrast Pakistan, for example, which chased out all non Muslims, so that it is now 99% pure Muslim. Yet Sanity is not involved in any campaign to delegitimize the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

          • As soon as you stop to adress yourself as we, which won`t be in near future though the progress in medicine.

          • The same day when Iran will have a Christian premier, Turkey a Kurd prime minister, the King of England will be Catholic and certainly after the fall of the present Arab leadership in Israel.
            Even according to sanity standards this question is a sick provocation.

            • what percentage of Iranians are Christian? GIven 20% of Israelis are Arab, I would exect every fifth prime minister to be Arab.

              But such advanced calculus is probably way beyond your bigotted thick village idiot brain.

              • I may be a village idiot and mathematically challenged, but nevertheless much closer to the real world than your kind of ignorant cretins who didn’t hear about the history of the conflict between the two people and expects some kind of political/ethnic balance regarding the election results – based on statistics without taking into account any context or any other influencing factor. Sanity you are the perfect textbook example the clueless professor who thinks that cats hear with their legs, if you cut their legs off and say “run” they don’t move.
                Israel is a democracy and when the electorate will vote for an Arab/Muslim candidate then he/she (the latter is very improbable due to the well known cultural/religious mysogny in Arab society) will be the prime minister and not before.

                  • Another brilliant post by Sanity– this post proves that Israel has racism! Wow! Now, if only Sanity could prove Israel is the only country in the world that has racism, the case against Israel will be complete! Because we all know that the electorates of all other countries make decisions based precisely on the percentage of their population, so that half of all heads of state and government have always been female, for example. It’s a law of history– all countries except Israel are utopian democracies, where prejudice has no place.

              • Hey, mentally challenged one, according to your brainwashed imaginations, there should be a lot of Azeri, Kurd, Beluchi and Arab high representatives of the Islamic Republic of Iran, but there aren`t.

      • Of course, many Jewish Israelis also read Arabic, and many Israelis of all ethnic backgrounds read English well. And The Color Purple has been previously published in Hebrew, before Alice got so persnickety. So I’m sure everyone will be able to find a copy they can read, if they’re so inclined.

        Unfortunately, none of that makes Alice’s self-righteous posturing any less annoying.

  5. I read ‘The Color Purple’ for the first time three years ago. I found it a mixture of hard work and moving experience and that Alice Walker was a fairly average writer in terms of a level playing field. Now I discover that she hates Israel and appears to hate Jews. I am deeply saddened — I feel as I might if I had suddenly discovered the American author of a book I had on the whole enjoyed and which was on one of my bookshelves — hated black people and was a supporter of the KKK.
    I have read and loved most of the books of the late Egyptian writer, Naguib Mahfouz, even though I know he was no supporter of Israel. I knew this from the begining, but as far as I know he never decreed that his books could not be translated into Hebrew or published in Israel.

  6. In reality, she exchanged book royalties for news headlines. As a practical matter, in her effort to support BDS she has put Israel in the position of boycotting *her* — and apparently that’s a tradeoff she’s willing enough to make.

  7. Anyone stupid or spiteful enough to hate a language deserves no respect.

    This remarkably silly woman is so blinded by self-righteousness she cannot see that she is lending support to the violent racists of Hamas.

  8. Hadar and Adam,
    Excellent that you point out that Arabs in Israel were voting citizens while the U.S. deep South was mired in segregation.
    Great article!
    Once someone is quoted as saying Jesus was a Palestinian, no less “still being crucified,” you know that person is far gone. That and Ms. Walker’s other statements tell me that she’s been brainwashed for quite some time.
    I’m wondering if she’s going to give back all that “filthy” money she earned from the film rights to her book, made possible by Zionist supporting Steven Spielberg and the “dark” Hollywood Jewish cabal?

  9. No chance of Alice devoting any purple prose to the horrors in Syria, Duvidl supposes. Time for Duvidl’s version of a well-known Negro spiritual:

    So Low, Alice Big-ot
    (to the tune of “Swing Low, Sweet Chariot”. Hat tip: US tradition)

    Chorus: So low, Alice Big-ot;
    Her face purple; at the mouth, foam.
    So low; Alice Big-ot;
    Carry her to a mental home.

    I looked over Jordan, what did I see;
    Her face purple; at the mouth foam.
    No sign of her fighting Syrian tyranny.
    Safer in a state mental home.

    Chorus: So low, Alice Big-ot;
    Her face purple; at the mouth, foam.
    So low; Alice Big-ot;
    Carry her to a mental home.

    DS Al Coda

  10. For some insight into Alice’s grasp of Middle Eastern history, may I recommend this blog post on her introduction to Palestine Inside Out: An Everyday Occupation? (Disclaimer, I wrote it. I had to write something.)

    http://balabustabluejeans.blogspot.com/2010/07/i-am-trying-so-hard-to-have-patience.html

    She’s also written about travelling to Gaza with a Jewish woman who explains to her that her husband no longer visits relatives in Israel with her because he was born in Palestine in 1940 or thereabouts, and he is treated badly at the airport by personnel who see on his passport that he is ‘Palestinian’ as a result. Alice accepts this bubbemeiseh as a totally realistic thing. She just doesn’t understand the history of the region at all.

    I think it’s a combination of thinking she understands how history WORKS, so there is no need to actually learn history, and a personal arrogance that comes from having been publically regarded as a highly compassionate and spiritual person for so long that she now does not question the validity of anything she thinks or feels.

    And I do think she’s got a specific grudge against Jews that relates to her ex-husband. I really don’t know why. Mel was a civil rights attorney, and is by all accounts a decent guy, and they’ve been divorced since the late 1970s.

  11. Omar Barghouti, the BDS guru, voices his disrespect and contempt for the white race and in particular towards the French here:
    Omar Barghouti on Whiteness and Biological Determinism – Broadband.mp4