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Glenn Greenwald on Israel’s ‘extreme violence’ against Muslims & US “child-killing” drones


Glenn Greenwald’s latest outrage is inspired by commentary by some in the media – in response to riots and violence in Egypt, Libya and elsewhere – expressing surprise that Muslims in those nations are not grateful to the US for backing Mubarak’s ouster and initiating military action to topple Gaddafi.

Greenwald, in US media angrily marvels at the lack of Muslim gratitude, Sept. 15, cites “decades of arming, funding and general support [for Mubarak] from the US” and the civilian death toll from the Libya operation as reasons why citizens in both countries are rightfully far from grateful to America.

He then lambastes those, such as NBC correspondent Richard Engel, who argue that the “primary reason these Muslims have such animosity toward the US is because their heads have been filled…with crazy conspiracy theories about how the US and Israel are responsible for their woes”.

Greenwald writes:

“…to act as though Muslim anger toward the US and Israel is primarily the by-product of crazy conspiracy theories is itself a crazy conspiracy theory. It’s in the world of reality, not conspiracy, where the US and Israel have continuously brought extreme amounts of violence to the Muslim world, routinely killing their innocent men, women and children.

Listening to Engel, one would never know about tiny little matters like the bombing of Gaza and Lebanon, the almost five-decade long oppression of Palestinians, the widely hated, child-killing drone campaign, or the attack on Iraq.” [emphasis added]

While Greenwald’s narrative about U.S. responsibility for Muslim anger is entirely predictably – an expression of American self-flagellation over every conceivable problem afflicting non-Westerners which is popular within a segment of the American left – his implication that Muslim anti-Zionist hatred is justifiable given Israel’s ‘oppression of Muslims’ is ahistorical and morally unserious.

Citing statistics from the book “Death Tolls for the Major Wars and Atrocities of the Twentieth Century,” 2003, Professors Gunnar Heinsohn and Daniel Pipes note the following:

deaths in the Arab-Israeli conflict [number] 51,000 [since 1950]  in all. Arabs make up roughly 35,000 of these dead and Jewish Israelis make up 16,000.

These figures mean that deaths in Arab-Israeli fighting since 1950 amount to just 0.06 percent of the total number of deaths in all conflicts in that period. More graphically, only 1 out of about 1,700 persons killed in conflicts since 1950 has died due to Arab-Israeli fighting.

In a different perspective, some 11,000,000 Muslims have been violently killed since 1948, of which 35,000, or 0.3 percent, died during the sixty years of fighting Israel, or just 1 out of every 315 Muslim fatalities. In contrast, over 90 percent of the 11 million who perished were killed by fellow Muslims. 

(Adding the 11,000 killed in the Israeli war of independence, 1947-49, made up of 5,000 Arabs and 6,000 Israeli Jews, does not significantly alter these figures.)

Examples of Muslim on Muslim violence since 1950 include the Iran-Iraq War, the Algerian Civil War, the Syrian massacre in Hama, Jordan’s killing of Palestinians (Black September ), Saddam Hussein’s mass murder of Shiites, Kurds and others, and the ethnic cleansing in Darfur. The list goes on.

Massacres, of course, are still taking place in Muslim countries such as Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, and elsewhere – “extreme” Muslim on Muslim violence – and yet no citizens, other than Israeli Jews, are routinely called “blood-thirsty“, “genocidal“, “terrorist“, or “Nazi” by Muslim countries. 

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The Muslim public’s “outrage” over Israel’s treatment of Arabs and Palestinians, as with their extreme antisemitism, is cynically exploited by the Arab media – dangerous propaganda which is often ignored, or even legitimized, by Western media elites. 

While economic under-development and the continued absence of true democratic values represent the Muslim world’s greatest problem, Greenwald would have us believe that the the Muslim world’s malign obsession with Israeli Jews is somehow justified – that 1.6 billion Muslims are being oppressed by 6 millions Jews.

It is a pernicious lie.

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  1. Of course, in Greenwald’s world, even when the demonstrations had nothing to do with Israel … its all, all, all about Israel!

  2. In the interests of balanced reporting i dont suppose that glenn greenwald could do an article about the numbers of Israeli children killed or injured by arab-islamic attacks and could also maybe include the numbers of jewish and non-jewish children killed where-ever arabs and muslims cause their acts of terrorism anywhere on the planet you know on tube trains,buses,planes in shopping malls, cafes, schools at home etc as the muslims expect the rest of humanity to submit to their cult I await mr greenalds response though on current greenwald form i doubt if i will get one as it might conflict with greenwald dhimmitude programing

  3. Salam Abd Al-Qawi “Our hatred of Jews is based on our faith”.

    Well we knew that. But whats Greenwald’s excuse?

    • Has glenn greenwald secretly crossed over to the dark side like the odious george galloway as he seems unwilling to criticise or accept any criticism of islam and muslims??

  4. Great article. You’ve put the difference between the now ubiquitous tropes of the left and the Arab media into stark relief against sobering facts as they really exist. This one’s a keeper!

    • Is homophobia permitted on CIF Watch website?

      If not, how come one Daniel is allowed to post homophobic comments?

      • Nat,
        There is a saying in Hebrew which says “Para para”.

        I take it you speak hebrew calling out Tsava “Tsah”al”?

          • As I said Nat, I didn’t find it Homophobic.
            I found it in bad taste.
            Maybe it’s lost in translation but I have Gay friends who would not take offence to this.

            Now I condem all sort of bigotry, when I sense one.
            I may not say it all the time but I try to stick to the matter at hand.
            Speaking of which what do you say about the post?
            Do you agree, disagree?

            • Another take on the gay post card would be to write a happy post card, which I think they’d be hard pressed for since as a gay couple they’d be frowned upon in said countries. Glenn making sure through some logical somersault to spin the public hanging of gays in Iran to his favor. See Max Blumenthal leaving Al Akbar ( huff puff ).

      • “If not, how come one Daniel is allowed to post homophobic comments?”

        Nat explain to me exactly what in Daniel’s comment above justifies you branding it ‘homophobic’?

        You have made the charge now substantiate it or withdraw it.

        • Nat explain to me exactly what in Daniel’s comment above justifies you branding it ‘homophobic’?

          Even by your standards that’s absolutely hilarious!

          • pretzelberg can you answer the question, or is the best you can do is to post a silly comment that has no relevance to the question posed?

        • I quote Daniel:

          “Glenn and his Brazilian partner should holiday in Iran or Cairo. Write us a gay little post card.”

          This is an homophobic statement.

          Why don’t you contact gay groups in Israel and ask them what they think? I can already tell you what their answer will be.

          • Nat you are the one accusing Daniel of making a homophobic statement not any group.
            Either explain how Daniel’s post is homophobic, I’m assuming you know what the word means but am beginning to doubt if you do, or withdraw your accusation.

            • I quote Daniel:

              “Glenn and his Brazilian partner should holiday in Iran or Cairo. Write us a gay little post card.”

              This is an homophobic statement.

              I am appalled to see that other people posting on CIF Watch support Daniel’s homophobic comment.

              Will COF Watch / Adam levick please take a stance and let us know whether it’s acceptable to post racist comments on CIF Watchj?

              Answer please.

          • Nat, never once heard you condemn the real enemies of gay people, which just goes to show you really couldn’t give a shit about them. You are a hypocrite of the highest order. Whining non-stop with your sanctimonious questions about Zionist iniquity in the name of universal justice, while actually not caring about anyone who is not a ‘victim’ of the Jews. Israel is just a stick you use to have a crack at the yids.

            Next whining question: ‘does cifwatch allow people to use the word ‘yid’?
            Answer: Bigots like you have no shame.

          • Nat personally I understood it to be a take at Glen not for being Gay (no idea if he is – and it is irrelevant) but (under the assumption he is) for having a pop at Israelis while neglecting the more Homophobic neighbours in the ME Iin particular the 2 countries which have Islamic values (though very different) at their core.
            One emerged as a theocracy 33 years ago and the other following it close by.

            I have said it 3 times now, I found it in bad taste, but not Homophobic.
            I found it as a dig at Iran and Cairo’s poor treatment of Gays more than about whether or not Glen is Gay.

            • ItSik,
              Is spot on. The comment wasn’t in bad taste. I think you’ll be surprised that gays are often less hysterical than the mob on the streets right now. Glenn being gay should say a word about the violent homophobia in cultures he spends defending over everything. He goes on about islamophobia but has no time for executed gays in the Muslim world.

              One thing I have been noticing is that the most intolerant people in this thread claim to be the most tolerant.

            • Daniel’s comment is apalling.

              What is even more apalling is to see that you support such a comment.

              You’ve destroyed your credibility.

              • Fine.
                You asked for the way I have understood a comment made while taking on board all the context.

                You cannot cherry pick things.
                The context is vital.

                I wouldn be very cautious in making these comments for fear it may be misunderstood.

                Judging from Daniel’s recent reply it is obvious that this was the case.

                If this made my credability destroyed in you eyes, than I guess we have nothing to say to one another.

                G’Day.

              • Nat,
                Look, Daniel’s comment is not appalling. Your harping on about it is both off topic and a waste of everyone’s time. Stop coming here and charging at windmills.

    • Why aren’t I surprised that homophobia gets a lot of thumbs-up among posters on this site?

      CiFW should be asking itself why it attracts so many lowlife bigots and mental midgets.

      • pretzelberg you are quick to condemn others for the language and terms they use but seem to be oblivious to your own use of prejudiced and offensive terms.
        “The term midget is now rarely used and is considered offensive. But its usage was very common until the end of the twentieth century”

        Perhaps you would like to consider your own use of offensive terms, i.e. midget, before condemning others in future.

        • pretzel only learnt the simple equation from the poster seen at the present witless rampaging::

          If you say that our prophet incite violence then we’ll kill you.

          • the poster seen at the present witless rampaging

            Amazing that two people could recommend this nonsensical English.

        • My use of the term “midget”, of course, is in no way a slur against small people.
          It is solely a reference to the diminuitive intellect of so many posters on this blog.

          Now – let’s return to your homophobia.

          • pretzelberg can you inform me of the comment I have posted that justifies your accusation of my alleged homophobia?
            Before you start making claims about the lack of others intellect who post on this site you really need to examine your own. Making unsubstantiated allegations, and throwing around accusations that frankly you are only parroting is a clear indication that your IQ level is probably smaller than your shoe size.

            I will not waste my time asking you to substantiate your allegation as I doubt you have the intellectual honesty or backbone to admit you are wrong.

            • If you are denying that Daniel’s post is homophobic, then you clearly also have a problem with gay people.

              Get over it.

              And if you want to defend the lowlife bigots on this website, then that’s also your problem.

              • pretzelberg thank you for confirming that my assessment of your character, and clear lack of intellectual honesty and a backbone is correct.

                  • Nat I have no problem whatsoever with gay people.

                    Now when are you going to explain how Daniel’s comment is homophobic?

                    I have asked you this question several times but you have, again, failed to attempt an answer other than boring repetition of your original post.
                    Are you really that intellectually challenged that you are incapable of anything other than repeating phrases and meaningless slogans in a parrot fashion?

                    • I quote Daniel:

                      “Glenn and his Brazilian partner should holiday in Iran or Cairo. Write us a gay little post card.”

                      If you don’t see why this is homophobic, you have a problem.

                      I’m surprised to find people posting homophobic comments on this website, since CIF Watch published a very nice story on the Gay pride in Tel Aviv some months ago.

                    • Nat you mean you can’t demonstrate why it is allegedly homophobic.

                      You are just demonstrating your inability to substantiate the charge you made against Daniel. What is self evident is that you spew out phrases in the same meaningless fashion as a parrot without understanding the meaning of what you are spewing forth.

                      I pity you.

                      Are you a multilingual illiterate or is it only the English language that you are illiterate in?

                  • Nat,

                    I believe you’ll find that most people in this thread are coming from a Liberal back ground and are here because they are so ticked off about the current state @ the Guardian HQ.

          • “My use of the term “midget”, of course, is in no way a slur against small people.
            It is solely a reference to the diminuitive intellect of so many posters on this blog.
            Now – let’s return to your homophobia.”

            Sorry, but that doesn’t wash.

            • “If you don’t see why this is homophobic, you have a problem.”

              Nat, If you can’t explain why it’s homophobic, then it is you who have a problem.

      • What I really ask myself is why Levick has still not banned people like Daniel from his website. They’re an embarrassment.

  5. “The Muslim public’s…extreme antisemitism…”

    Sigh. Yes, the undifferentiated mass that is the collective Muslim mind.

    The Jews™ the The Muslims™ – brainless generalisations, relics of outdated thought.

    • The problem is Avram, that the ‘moderate Muslims‘ that you allure to are loudly silent.

      If they exist at all.

        • I think you’ll hear a l,oud roar coming from 1.5 billions (give or take a few extremists) wouldn’t you think so?

          • Did you hear the loud roar of 2.2 billion Christians saying that Breivik didn’t support them? Or that the Blair-Bush militant-Christian assault on Iraq didn’t represent them?

            Why do we have this bizarre need to have Muslims perform this ritual act of disassociation with every act of insanity perpetrated by Muslims?

            • I most certainly did hear a massive roar of Christian disapproval of the sick murder which occured in Norway!

              So yes, I did.

              “…Blair-Bush militant-Christian assault on Iraq didn’t represent them?”

              Are you taking drugs?
              Christian assault?
              Are there no Jews, hindus, Atheists, Muslims and others in both armies?

              Last I checked America is a secular republic.
              Britain may be represented by the head of Anglican church but it is not a religious state.

              This rubbish you said is straight out of an Al Qaeda text book.

              “Why do we have this bizarre need to have Muslims perform this ritual act of disassociation with every act of insanity perpetrated by Muslims?”

              Cause it’s the right thing to do.
              Unless you believe the “acts if insanity perpetrated by Muslims” are not wrong things.

              Funny that you ask this though, cause you are asking the same thing of the people of Israel, when it comes to wrongs taken by a fraction of their people.

              • “I most certainly did hear a massive roar of Christian disapproval of the sick murder which occured in Norway!”

                We will need to see proof, and we will need to know what percentage of “moderate Christians” voiced their approval.

                “Are there no Jews, hindus, Atheists, Muslims and others in both armies?”

                Last I checked, their commanders in chief were religious zealots. Apparent God spoke directly to George directly instructing him to attack. Christian extremism!!!

                “Last I checked America is a secular republic.”

                Damn straight. One nation under God.

                “Cause it’s the right thing to do.”

                I want you and other readers to take note. You are requesting that people completely unrelated to acts of violence be *required* to publicly disassociate themselves from them just because they share the same faith as the perpetrators.

                I DEMAND that all “moderate Jews” condemn the crimes committed by Jews in the name of Zionism.

                Except we can’t, can we? Because as we all know, holding Jews responsible for the actions of the state of Israel is anti-Semitic – so why isn’t it racist to hold Muslims in general responsible for the crimes of others purely because they are pigeon holed together?

                “Funny that you ask this though, cause you are asking the same thing of the people of Israel, when it comes to wrongs taken by a fraction of their people.”

                I ask nothing of them. But it seems you are OK with it, so we should all demand that Jews all over the world disassociate themselves from crimes committed by other Jews.

                Dear God, man. Did you take a racist pill this morning?

                • I’ll keep it short:

                  “You are requesting that people completely unrelated to acts of violence be *required* to publicly disassociate themselves from them just because they share the same faith as the perpetrators.”

                  Not exactly what I said.

                  If they believe they share the same faith than there is nothing to disassociate from.

                  The way I see it, they don’t.
                  Salafis do.
                  As for Shiites, they really ought to speak out against Khamenei.

          • We rightly condemn as anti-Semitism any attempt to hold world Jewry responsible for the crimes committed in the name of Zionism – even in the absence of a “loud roar” from the “moderates”.

            But when it comes to Muslims, we are all to happy to have Muslims in general be held responsible for the crimes committed in the name of Islam.

            Strange that.

            • Do “we” (wonder who’s this “we”) also condem the atempts to smear all Israelis as one collective by any and every arab country?
              do “we” condem the BDS vile attempt at spreading a blanket at all Israelis?
              What about the condemnations of Iran’s laudable “Holocaust denail contest”?

              • “Do “we” (wonder who’s this “we”)”

                The royal we.

                “also condem the atempts to smear all Israelis as one collective by any and every arab country?”

                Of course.

                “do “we” condem the BDS vile attempt at spreading a blanket at all Israelis?”

                I don’t agree with BDS, and find some of its justifications to be intellectually flimsy. I’m hoping to write an in depth rebuttal of Ben White’s work on the subject, but it’s a case of if and when I get time.

                “What about the condemnations of Iran’s laudable “Holocaust denail contest”?”

                I agree. And also systematic Nakba-denial by Israel and its apologists.

                • Avram:
                  “I agree. And also systematic Nakba-denial by Israel and its apologists.”

                  We do not deny the down side of the war of independance and the tragedy which befell on many Arabs as a resault.

                  We do deny the myth that it was souly our fault or that our soldiers persued ethnic cleansing as a rule.
                  We also deny that most of the arabs fled as a result of our actions and most were forcefully removed.

                  For example, there was a small village near my kibbutz. when their irregulars attacked our kibbutz we managed to fend them off and after a bloody battle where some lost their lives the men assembled a group to fight them out.

                  Most of them fled south and are still Israeli citizens.

                  67 war was a very different war.

                  Over whole, I think you would find that the other side’s abuse of Palestinians was far greater.

                  I am not saying 2 wrongs make a right but perspective is vital.
                  Other wise we would be focusing on why the Synagogues in Gaza were demolished and why the Mosques abandoned by Arabs are still standing.

                  • “We also deny that most of the arabs fled as a result of our actions and most were forcefully removed.”

                    And that’s what I’m talking about. To hold that belief requires the ability to ignore the historical record.

                    • So you think that the majority of Arabs were cicked out by the Palmach, and other Jewish factions and later the IDF?

                      Boy this must means the IDF must be the crappiest army in the ME.

              • Itsik, do you condemn the settlements that the Government of Israel builds in the Palestinian Territory in violation of international law?

                • Most of them are against my ideology.
                  Jerusalem is another matter.
                  All needs resolving by both parties around the negotiation table.

                  I personaly believe that persuing old housing that belonged to your ancensters is not the right way forward (Jewish, Christian and Muslim)

                  It should be dealt with via a settlment paid for by all parties which fought for in 1947-9.
                  Including the UK, France, Iraq and Saudi Arabia.

                  Does this answer your question?
                  What the hell does this has to do with Glenn?
                  Can you please give your opinion to this post?

    • Its not just Jews Avram both where ever this vile backwards cult islam and its mindless followers go they cause genocide in its bid to be the supreme race but hey Avram they say ignorence is bliss if so then you nust be in Nivanna but I will stick to Motorhead

      • Yes, Islam is vile and backward. But no more so than the Judeo-Christian cults.

        One day you will be embarrassed by your primitive opinions.

      • this vile backwards cult islam and its mindless followers

        CiFWatch lets this stand while complaining about the Guardian’s “anti-Semitism”.

        What a joke.

        • I avoided reading this site for a long time. I felt , and still do feel, that it looked way to messy. Since I did start to periodically read it I have been amazed at the racism and bigotry tolerated on it. It badly needs properly documenting.

          • “Since I did start to periodically read it I have been amazed at the racism and bigotry tolerated on it.”

            In other words, it’s right up your alley.

        • @ ItsikDeWembley

          What a bizarre question.

          Please reference any one thing I’ve said that might give the impression that I “side with Greenwald” on this issue.

          • Wasn’t sure your stand on this and this is why I have asked the question.

            You just answered, I did not mean to be seem as having drawn a conclusion.

            • The problem is: you HAD already drawn a conclusion with the suggestive question-statement “do you actualy side with Greenwald on this?”

              Again: what ever made you think/suggest that I would side with Greenwald?

              Just because I challenge the anti-Muslim sentiment of the article and/or the homophobia of Daniel and other numbskulls here?

              Do YOU side with them, ItsikDeWembley?

              • No.
                I most certainly do not approve of generalising comments.
                You normally have some thing to say about the piece being discussed.
                That’s all.

                I, for one, did not translate Daniel’s comment as Homophobic.
                But that’s just me.
                Tasteless, yes.
                Calling Islam a backward cult and calling its followers mindless, is not acceptable.

                There are mindless people everywhere and in every religion, including non religion.

                On thing is certain though, many Muslims who call for a reform are being agressivly silenced, in ways we haven’t seen in other religions for the past century.

                This is for the Muslims to resolve themselves.

                  • No.
                    Why would I?
                    In fact I had a very serious loud argument with 2 Muslim men and 1 Christian man inside the financial institute I work in about Gay people.

                    They thought Gay people don’t deserve to get married, have civil partnership or be allowed to adopt a child.

                    I thought it is down to the individual rather than his/hers sexual preference.
                    The Trio argued that Gays are not suitable to be role models as they’ll “corrupt” the children.
                    They said it with a straight face which really pissed me off.

                    There are many hetro sexual people who are poor role models, cannot show support to youngsters, abuse drugs or show no affection to children and should not be allowed to adopt.

                    i could argue that most gay people are exactly the opposite (but I have no means to support it except through personal friends I have met in my life).

                    In fact most gay bars are a preffered choice of vanue for many straight people because the crowd is so much more pleasent, does not tend to fight and doesn’t half bitch as much about life as some people in the world who try to make mountains out of a mole.
                    I believe the word Gay is there for a reason. Celebrate life rather than moan about it.

                    Nat, what is this has to do with this thread?
                    Why haven’t you answered my questions yet?

                    • Amen Itsik,
                      In fact the best and trend setting music will be played in gay clubs about one year before it is played in breeder clubs. Go figure. I also concur with your statement that there is less ‘heterosexual’ macho aggression in gay clubs. Even when my bum is pinched I feel less threatened compared to a drunk straight club.
                      One could argue that the ‘feminine’ gay culture is a threat to many Muslims the way women are perceived as a threat by too many Islamists. The same is sadly true in many macho driven cultures.
                      Glenn should take note, as should Butler.

          • You are correct though in my opinion. There is no need to use these terminologies against the Muslim people.
            I do not believe what we are seeing these days (the demos) are a result of Muslim people per se, but a carefuly manipulated attempt to utilise the sheer amounts of illiteracy in North Africa and the Arabian peninsula to drive out masses and create a leverage against the west.

            This was aided by the ever so helpful Guardian which does not hesitate to produce thoroughly investigated journalism.

            http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4281867,00.html

            • This was aided by the ever so helpful Guardian

              And the conflict is similarly further fuelled by the likes of CiFWatch and its talk of “the Muslim public’s extreme antisemitism”.

              Why not speak out against this hate speech?

              • True.
                Frustrated talk is not a thing that helps.
                Never have and never will.
                This is exactly what we see, and have been seeing in the ME for decades now.

                This is what UNRWA and Khaled Meshal thrives on.
                Using the people’s lack of forward movement to their own advantage.

                This should have been resolved donkey’s years ago.

                In 1988 on the eve of the 1st Intifada many Palestinian young men and women had a degree but no prospect of employment.

                Arafat did wonders with that and Shamir, Rabin or Begin old attitudes did not help.

                Instead we saw Paras starting to beat kids which they should have never had to chase after.
                we saw kids being used as decoys to drag soldiers into narrow alley ways only to have a frideg thrown at them from above.
                You get the picture.

                So who really gained?

                Morsi might be able to tell you that…
                And so will the US weapon manufacturers.

    • Avram: “The Jews™ the The Muslims™ – brainless generalisations, relics of outdated thought”.

      And the murder of Americans because ‘The West’ has offended Islam. A reaction based on a brainless generalisation? Or does your intellectual heroism not extend to condemning those who would rip your head off if you really spoke truth to power?

      • Totally agree with you.

        The brainless generalisations made by some Muslims regarding the film are every bit as brainless as Adam’s generalisations about the “Muslim public”, The Arabs™ and The Jews™.

  6. “Our hatred of Jews is based upon our faith”.

    No wonder many Christians, feminists and the great unwashed progressive lefty mob are so enamoured with this cult of hate. Makes perfect sense.

    • I get it. You’re accusing Christians, feminists and lefties in general of being Jew haters.

      Unbelievable.

      • “.. in general ..” – versus “many”
        Unbelievable, again your sloppy reading and ideological short comings. It is quite daring of you to critise people without even understanding what they write. My English writing might not be so good as yours but my understanding of English is formidable, compared to yours.

    • “No wonder many Christians, feminists and the great unwashed progressive lefty mob are so enamoured with this cult of hate. Makes perfect sense.”

      So basically Terry, you come here to spout your hatred of Christians and women?

      Are you so frustrated that you cannot tolerate the sight of a woman who tries to be independent and get a job?

  7. And now there’s Nasrallah calling for a week of protests because of that shoddy film – specifically against the US and Israel! He’s just obviously – like the extremists who turned the embassy protests violent – looking for an excuse.

  8. Arab human development say Arab societies are being crippled by a lack of political freedom,and cultural isolation from the rest of the world,Arab\Islamic governments are using anti-western\Jewis diatribes propaganda and lies to deflect attention their on failures.What bettercause to unite adisaffected ,primitiv ,degenerated population than by creating an easely identifiable target,ISRAEL AND THE JEWS,Detailed research revaels that the Arab\Islamist propaganda machine has spent $100 billion over the last two decades propagating LIES.This money could have been used to improve the lives of MILLIONS.WHERE ARE THE VOICES RAISED IN PROTEST????

  9. ”Detailed research revaels that”EU contributions to the Palestinians over the past decade come to more than $4billion,plus $10 billion from the USA and other sources,making it the highest per capita aid transfer in the history of foreign aid anywhere,significant portions of this money,intended to provide a new infrastructure,have not reached the intended recipients.If this money has not gone to whom it was intended,then where has it gone???An IMF report(2003)idetified $9000million in assets diverted from Palestinian taxes and revenues to private accounts of the PA leadership.2003The Forbes report estimated that Arafat had more that $300 million stashed away.The PA Society for protectin of Human Rights(LAW) has been accused of stealing $4 million paid by the EU.WHY HAS THIS ABUSE OF FUNDING BEEN SO LONG IGNORED,WHEN PROPER CONTROLS WOULD HAVE IMPROVED PALESTINIAN LIVES BEYOND RECOGNITION.AND WHY HAVE TAX PAYERS BEEN FORCED TO FUND TERRORISM,CORUPTION AND BLATANT THIEVERY???

  10. Guardian 17 Sept 2012.
    I had never read H Sherwood before, as I avoid the Groniad like the plague, cept on Saturdays becase the Review is irritatingly good, but this comment of hers shows her to be happy to peddle antisemitic myths, no different to those peddled by the man with the toothbrush moustache.the subject was Netanyahu ‘turning up the heat’ on Obama at election time over Iran. She concludes: ‘Netanyahu has failed to conceal his preference for…Mitt Romney, who has hinted that he would push for military action against Iran. HIS CHIEF BANKROLLER, SHELDON ADELSON, IS ALSO A STAUNCH SUPPORTER OF THE ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER.’ (capitals mine).
    The subtext is clear and pernicious in all of this. ‘Jewish money plays a part in subverting, or attempting to subvert the foreign policy of a nation in the favour of a small but finacially powerful force.’ This is despicable reporting.
    Romney is a complete idiot, in my view, and few Jews – a very small population anyway, vote anything but Democrat.

  11. Deziderio, its well known Arafat stole billions and funded terrorism against Israeli civilians. But Arafat knew Avram would be silent on this..

    • I think both Arafat knew this (both Suha and Yasser…)
      Why isn’t Avrumale asks Suha to return the stolen loot?

  12. We will bann all these companies in pakistan if proper action not taken against the movie ”INNOCENCE OF MUSLIMS”

    Leading US Companies in Pakistan

    Abbott Laboratories

    AES Pakistan

    American Consultants

    American President Lines

    Bank of America

    Brink’s Pakistan

    Caltex Oil Pakistan

    Captain-PQ Chemical Industries

    Carrier Service Company

    Citibank

    The Coca-Cola Export Corporation

    Colgate-Palmolive Pakistan

    Cornpak

    Crescent Greenwood

    Cyanamid Pakistan

    Dawood Hercules Chemicals

    DHL Pakistan

    DuPont Far East Inc.

    Eli Lilly Scientific Office

    First International Investment Bank

    The General Tyre & Rubber Company of Pakistan

    Gillette Pakistan

    IBM Semea

    Intel Pakistan

    International Laboratories

    Johnson & Johnson Pakistan

    Karachi International Container Terminal

    Karam Ceramics

    KFC

    McDonalds

    Merck Sharp & Dohme Pakistan

    Morgan Stanley Pakistan Investment Fund

    Muller & Phipps Pakistan

    New Hampshire Insurance Company

    Occidental Pakistan

    Pakistan Mobile Communications

    Parke, Davis & Company

    Pepsi-Cola Pakistan

    Pfizer Laboratories

    Pizza Hut

    Premier Tobacco Industries

    Procter & Gamble Pakistan

    Rafhan Maize Products Company

    Sheraton Middle East Management Corp.

    Singer Pakistan

    Smith Kline Becham Pakistan

    Squibb Pakistan

    3M Pakistan

    Union Texas Pakistan

    Upjohn Pakistan

  13. Manners are quite different from country to country.Being criticized is awful!Let’s watch TV with a candle on.Thanks for taking me the movieI owe you for my dinner.No matter what happened, he would not say a word.No matter what happened, he would not say a word.They’re in red and white.Just wait and see!Our school is in the east of Beijing.