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Glenn Greenwald airbrushes the bigotry and extremism of Noam Chomsky


Glenn Greenwald’s latest post includes a spirited defense of Noam Chomsky, one of his intellectual inspirations, titled ‘How Noam Chomsky is discussed‘,  March 23.

Greenwald has previously cited the wit and wisdom of the extremist MIT professor, and now is evidently devoting significant space in his new book to explaining how Chomsky’s “exclusion” from mainstream political debate represents a good example of how “media systems” restrict “alternative” views.

Greenwald argues, thusly: 

Nobody has been subjected to…vapid discrediting techniques more than Noam Chomsky. The book on which I’m currently working explores how establishment media systems restrict the range of acceptable debate in US political discourse, and I’m using Chomsky’s treatment by (and ultimate exclusion from) establishment US media outlets as a window for understanding how that works. As a result, I’ve read a huge quantity of media discussions about Chomsky over the past year. And what is so striking is that virtually every mainstream discussion of him at some point inevitably recites the same set of personality and stylistic attacks designed to malign his advocacy without having to do the work of engaging the substance of his claims.

Greenwald further complains that Chomsky has been smeared with horrible slurs, such as the claim that he is an antisemitic (self-hating) Jew, “due to defending some 35 years ago the right to free speech of a French professor who was later convicted  [in a French court] of Holocaust denial”.

However, the French “professor” Chomsky defended, Robert Faurissonwasn’t merely a Holocaust denier, but also “a proponent of Nazi-style bigotry and apologist for Hitler’s regime who had also written for neo-Nazi publications and spoken at neo-Nazi meetings”.

Additionally, as Paul Bogdanor observed:

The petition [which Chomsky signed] dignified Faurisson’s writings by (a) affirming his scholarly credentials (“a respected professor” of “document criticism”); (b) describing his lies as “extensive historical research”; (c) placing the term “Holocaust” in derisory quotation marks; and (d) portraying his lies as “findings.”

Chomsky not only defended Faurisson but offered the following views about those who engage in Holocaust denial:

I see no antisemitic implications in denial of the existence of gas chambers, or even denial of the holocaust.

As Bogdanor argued, denying the existence of gas chambers and the Holocaust “was the brainchild of antisemites and neo-Nazi activists” and “a propaganda tactic of antisemitic and neo-Nazi individuals and movements all over the world.”

Additionally, arguing that the Holocaust is a myth is necessarily antisemitic, as it suggests an elaborate global Jewish conspiracy which, over the course of nearly seven decades since the end of WWII, popularized a grand historic “fiction”: that Nazis systematically murdered six million Jews. 

Further, this wasn’t a one-off for Chomsky. Here are other quotes from the esteemed radical professor on Jews, Zionism and Israel. 

On American Jews:

“Jews in the US are the most privileged and influential part of the population… privileged people want to make sure they have total control, not just 98% control. That’s why antisemitism is becoming an issue.”

On Zionism:

“Hitler’s conceptions have struck a responsive chord in current Zionist commentary.”

On Judaism:

“In the Jewish community, the Orthodox rabbinate imposes its interpretation of religious law… Were similar principles to apply to Jews elsewhere, we would not hesitate to condemn this revival of the Nuremberg laws.”

In addition to his hostility towards Jews, Chomsky has argued that the U.S. is “the world’s greatest terrorist state, has praised the Vietcongdefended the Khmer Rouge, and expressed support for Hezbollah – all of which Greenwald would no doubt characterize as “personality and stylistic” quirks which in no way detract from the righteousness of his “progressive” advocacy.

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  1. What would dear Mr Chomsky and our Glenn say if i denied that the Crusades had taken place?

    True, a few Christians with too much money and no television or video games to fill their days went off to the Holy Land to kill some infidels but they weren’t part of anything organised and they were just restless adolescents.

  2. I just read that piece. Unbelievable, but it explais Greenwald`s extreme views on the USA, Israel and Zionism.
    To admire Chomsky and his political writings one has to harbour left extreme sympathies and a bizarre notion of the world, close to conspiracy thinking.
    He is a perfect example of what went wrong in the young generation with the left, intelligence and the education in the last three decades. They turned to left extremists left over after the fall of the East bloc, the end of communism in search for explanations.
    and here, they are, with some postmodernity, it were and are not developements in the political economy, social change, globalisation of industry, the scientific progres of the west, no, it is the media, the discourse, the false consciousness which is influenced, owned and steered by the establishment.
    A right extremist would immediately call the establishment Rothschilds, jews,

    “The book on which I’m currently working explores how establishment media systems restrict the range of acceptable debate in US political discourse, and I’m using Chomsky’s treatment by (and ultimate exclusion from) establishment US media outlets as a window for understanding how that works etc.”

    Obviously he chose to ignore all political and empirical critic of Chomsky`s works – I doubt that he had read one of them at all. This ignorance of factual critic and political condemnation, f.e. because of Cambodia, should advance his tale of personal abuse of Chomsky by the liberal establishment, and the media, in order to rationalize why Cjhomsky is a star for the fringe and a no-go for mainstream.
    “This method is applied with particular aggression to those who engage in any meaningful dissent against the society’s most powerful factions and their institutions.”
    Meaningful dissent or ideological nonsense, mixed with hate against the west?
    It is very strange that these guys like Chomsky or Greenwald call themselves dissenting and when they are treated according to their own will, they cry foul
    Especially as Al Guardian tries to insert left extremist views into mainstream, for example by publishing Greenwald..

    • It would be a bit mystifying if I didn`t write it myself.
      The searched explanation which was meant was the reason for the downfall of communism. The consequence of the political, economic and social desaster of communism was to ignore these effects and to take resort to platonism aka postmodernism, forgetting socioeconomic knowledge and adress, aggrandize mentality, will, narratives, of mulit culturalism, orientalism, whiteness, postcolonialism, queerness, otherness, and to harbour a messianic hope for redemption by Islam which replaced communism as the warm social paradise.

      A cultural left in art, media, bureaucracies and universities still exists but is far away from a any voting base in their specific land, therefore their authoritarian approach to the people and their deefense of authoritarian countries/cultures.
      Well, or paid coalition thinking of the subsidies by Arab oil states to universities in the west.
      Here is the only strategic asset for collaboration with the real politics of the western states, whether conservative or social democratic governments. Hence their prsence.

  3. “…denying the existence of gas chambers and the Holocaust “was the brainchild of antisemites and neo-Nazi activists…”

    This is incorrect.
    It was the Nazis themselves who denied it by hiding their true intentions, even from the inmates some times from the surrounding villages, by one way or another.
    The reasons they did it was to allow for larger numbers to come along willingly.

    The reasons Anti Semites and Neo Nazis do it these days is different and is actualy to promote the part in Mein Kampf ideology that the Jews are able to manipulate large parts of the world.

    The irony is that by agreeing with the Holocaust and the final solution’s outcome in figures, Neo Nazis and Anti Semites actualy admit that it was the Nazis themselves who manipulated large parts of the world (or at least gained their support) which is the opposite of what they blame the Jews with.

    • Of course the Nazis denied what was going on. He means discussions of the Holocaust in historical discussion. Fair point though.

      • The Nazis even set up a special SS unit to bury or burn the bodies at mass killing sites. So yes, Holocaust denial was part of the Nazi’s genocidal project at least by 1943.

  4. Has it occurred to anybody that the key target of this vitriolic abuse on this blog is a member of the Jewish community and a self proclaimed zionist. as described in the entry on him in the wikipedia ‘Chomsky has further defined himself as having held Zionist beliefs, although he notes that his definition of Zionism would be considered by most as anti-Zionism these days, the result of what he perceives to have been a shift (since the 1940s) in the meaning of Zionism (Chomsky Reader).’

    It is blogs like this that is leading to the increasing isolation of Israel. It discredits blogs like these. Perhaps they need to be discredited but it also harms the credibility of Israel being linked to such atrocious blogs.

    • It is blogs like this that is leading to the increasing isolation of Israel. It discredits blogs like these. Perhaps they need to be discredited but it also harms the credibility of Israel being linked to such atrocious blogs.
      Your worries about Zionism is simply sob inducing Briggs. Now that you spent your energy with masturbating the non existent isolation of Israel you can go back posting on your natural home under the rock.

      • “The voice of opponents, no less than that of friends, has a right to be heard”

        ~ CP Snow 1921
        (CiF Watch front page quotation)

        “If you don’t believe in freedom of speech for views you despise, you don’t believe in freedom of speech”

        ~ Noam Chomsky

        • Hard to believe that your kind of stupidity exists in the real world.
          Who the f*ck said that Chomsky and Greenwald have no right to excrete their eternal love for mass murderers?
          But why you would limit the right to say about them the truth?

        • “If you …”
          The idiot shouldn`t believe in freedom of speech, but respect it.
          It is not a faith as you and Chomsky believe but a defined part of legal system of state respecting rights of an indidual.
          It is no morale essence of mankind, like you are suggesting, idiot.

          • Why be so personally insulting to someone who disagree with you?

            I was just stating a view which you don’t agree with. That’s all.

            Insult me again, and I simply won’t bother to reply. No problem.

            • You won’t reply?! I hope you’ll excuse me for not fainting with terror. But to motivate your non-reply:
              You are a totally ignorant troll using slogans instead of reason and has the IQ somewhere in the sub-zero domain.

              • Point a finger & three are pointing back Fritz – or, in your language, Matthew 7 v 5.

                • Well, if your adult language means an antisemitic one, i will never grow up to that, idiot.

                  • Sorry to disappoint Fritz, but I am not anti-Semitic – just anti-Zionist. There is a chasm of difference, but I can’t expect you to understand at your age.

                • Richard W. Symonds
                  MARCH 27, 2013 @ 11:46 AM
                  I’m outta here

                  Richard W. Symonds
                  MARCH 27, 2013 @ 2:49 PM

                  Heh. Can I call it or what? 🙂

                  Mind you, he did manage to go cold turkey for three whole hours.

                • I am not anti-Semitic – just anti-Zionist

                  I don’t hate all Jews, just the uppity ones who think they have the right to self-determination like real people.

                  • And the Palestinian right to self-determination?!

                    Oh no, not them. They are not “God’s Chosen People” are they – nor the Gentile?

                    As Orwell said “All animals are equal. Some are more equal than others”.

                    You are a disgrace to the Semitic race Frotz.

                • “And the Palestinian right to self-determination?!”

                  What about it?

                  “Oh no, not them. They are not “God’s Chosen People” are they – nor the Gentile?”

                  Wow! Are you an anti-Semite, or do you just play one on CiF Watch? No one has said the Palestinians may not have a state, they just can’t have Israel, and as for the Gentiles, they were doing quite well in the self-determination department the last time I checked (about 2 seconds ago).

                  • It has nothing to do with being anti-Semitic, Jeff. It has to do with one race of people having a sense of superiority over other races. ‘Exceptionalism’ is the problem. We Brits had this attitude with our British Empire; the Americans have it with their American Empire, and you have it with you Rothschild/Zionist Empire.

                    Once this sense of superiority dominates and controls, the power of bullies emerge – and injustices escalate.

                    Ignorant arrogance is the killer.

                • You are coward Jew-hater, mr. symian. This “anti-Zionist” masquerade doesn’t work anymore.

                  Hey, weren’t you leaving this “useless” blog?

                  • Now, now sweetpea, let’s not lose complete control – I don’t remember using the term “useless” for this CiFWatch. That’s very naughty of you. People start getting really hurt when you ascribe fictitious quotes to them. Smack bottom.

                • “You are a disgrace to the Semitic race Frotz.” dick symian

                  So, there are races after all. I thought your type of self-styled “anti-racists” believed there are no races. What a retard.

                • Well, well, dick symons, you said this blog was a “waste of time” and you also said
                  “I´m outta here”. But your addiction to Jews is just irresistible,eh? Can’t help but keep your trolling mania, eh? Hypocritical drek.

                • “It has nothing to do with being anti-Semitic, Jeff. It has to do with one race of people having a sense of superiority over other races.”

                  Which race are you referring to as having a sense of superiority?

                • “We Brits had this attitude with our British Empire; the Americans have it with their American Empire, and you have it with you Rothschild/Zionist Empire”
                  Richard, you are not only an idiot, but an antisemitic idiot, too, close to Nazi thinking.

        • That is very coushty Ricardo.
          But with freedom of speech comes responsability.

          There is a fine line between voicing your opinion and perverting the course of History through Biased and unfounded allegations.

          Chomsky defended con artists which seek to hurt people.
          This is not something which equates to voicing your opinion.

          Never again means never again.

        • “If you don’t believe in freedom of speech for views you despise, you don’t believe in freedom of speech”

          ~ Noam Chomsky

          Many of Chomsky’s adoring fans no less many of those he defends to the hilt don’t practice tolerance for the freedom of speech of those whom they despise.

          ~ Jeff

          • Two wrongs don’t make a right Jeff.

            Intolerance comes in may forms. There’s fault on both sides. just as we are ALL hypocrites in one way or other, to a lesser or greater degree.

            • Nah, you are the greatest hypocrite around. And a coward. And a whiner. And a liar, as you promised you were leaving the blog.

              • Nah SJ, I’ll stick around for a bit longer – I’m just having so much fun winding you up!

    • “It is blogs like this that is leading to the increasing isolation of Israel.”

      Are you completely insane?

  5. As someone said recently :

    shttp://newmatilda.com/2013/03/14/chomsk … r-lemmings

    “What he (Chomsky) basically does is keep up with the facts as opposed to the propaganda”

    • “What he (Chomsky) basically does is keep up with the facts as opposed to the propaganda”

      Actually, Chomsky has been caught lying, and not just once, but with regularity, about just what the “facts” are – manufacturing dissent.

      • You’d be hard-put to prove that Jeff. Greater minds than you or I have tried, and come a cropper.

        It’s easier to get personal and insulting – which is the norm on this Forum…sadly.

        The intolerance of a different viewpoint is breathtaking – and dangerous. It’s a kind of ‘hate speech’.

        • In fact, delicate flower, your posts are all insulting. It affronts people’s intelligence and decency. Clear off, moronic troll, you promised

        • “You’d be hard-put to prove that Jeff. Greater minds than you or I have tried”

          Speak for yourself. Greater minds than you have documented Chomsky’s lies. Spend some time looking for them, and less time here. Much less.

  6. Again why shouldn’t the Guardian publish a piece apologizing for a well known denier of genocides like the Holocaust, the mass-murder of the Cambodian people and the Serbs massacres of Bosnia’s muslims? This is only natural for the world’s leading liberal voice…

    • In fact, delicate flower, your posts are all insulting. It affronts people’s intelligence and decency. Clear off, moronic troll, you promised.

          • Hey dick symian, we´re waiting for you to leave this “useless” blog. But it seems you are addicted to trolling.

      • Oh dear SJ, I think you’ve…what do they say..’shot yourself in the foot’, as well as disappearing up your own posterior in linguistic anima.

        Poor dear.

        • Hey, dick symian, weren’t you leaving? As a true hateful liar you aren’t even able to keep a simple promise, eh? Pathetic troll.

  7. Peter I have never heard or read Chomsky supporting Sharon, or Nathanyu the two mass murderers of our times. In fact to my knowledge he has been very critical of them.

    I also understand you idolize Sharon who even the Israeli courts agree is responsible for mass murder.

    • An other asshole who can’t read and understand simple English texts.
      Would you point out the word Sharon in my post? BTW comparing Netanyahu and Sharon to Pol-Pot, Hitler and Milosevic says everything about your moral, intellect and understanding of history. Thank you for demonstarting the true face of an “anti-Zionist” human rights warrior.

    • “Sharon, or Nathanyu the two mass murderers of our times.”

      Did you really write this nonsense with a straight face?

  8. Greenwall`s shortcoming are illustrated in this piece
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/mar/25/racism-war-on-terror-awlaki?INTCMP=SRCH

    in which he wants to seduce readers to share his anti-american and anti-israelian feelings.
    He depicts the war on terror as racist war, by using statistics, which are contradictorial according to him.
    And brings together the Mavi Marmara incident with the drone killing of Awlaki in Yemen.
    And far more, but I don`t want to get more into his insane rant of Real Americans, the Otherness of Muslims, just point to his hypocritical thinking, his bigotry of omitting Islamist terrorism and presenting Muslims as victims, not the real victims of terror, who are turned fictious by his reversal of cause and effect, his reversal of the relation perpetrator and victim, denying

    ” I’m most certainly not suggesting that anyone who supports Awlaki’s killing is driven by racism or anti-Muslim bigotry. I am suggesting that the belief that Muslims are somehow less American, or even less human, is widespread, and is a substantial factor in explaining the discrepancy I began by identifying”

    what he is suggesting
    “The racism that fuels the ‘war on terror'”

    A piece of double think from the Orwellian Otherworld – something quite common as postmodern narrative.

  9. here is the official recording of the massacres – attributed to Sharon

    The Israel Defense Forces surrounded the camps and at the Phalangists’ request,[9] fired illuminating flares at night.[10][11] In 1982, a UN commission chaired by Sean MacBride concluded that Israel bore responsibility for the violence.[12] In 1983, the Israeli Kahan Commission, appointed to investigate the incident, found that Israeli military personnel, aware that a massacre was in progress, had failed to take serious steps to stop it. Thus Israel was indirectly responsible, while Ariel Sharon, then Defense Minister, bore personal responsibility, forcing him to resign.[13]

    • So in Briggs’s book, failing to stop one massacre committed by other people entirely (which, nevertheless, was extremely serious and Sharon was rightly removed from his ministerial position) is somehow equivalent to being the moving force behind a multi-year campaign that deliberately killed millions.

      I’d say it’s unbelievable, but unfortunately with haters like Briggsy, it’s all too believeable…

    • Brigsy: “…of the massacres”

      Why the plural S?
      Do you just love the letter S?
      Wonder why?

    • Actaully it was christian who did it in reposnse to the Damour massacare by palestinian.

      Do you not remember Damour Lebanon. Let me remind you. Arafat and the PLO plunged Lebanon into “massacres, rape, mutilation, rampages of looting and killings. Out of a population of 3.2 million, some 40,000 or more people had been killed, 100,000 wounded, 5,000 permanently maimed
      http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/7287

  10. I get your point if you can commit genocides within a year that is not genocide.
    Besides Sharon can get away with that but not Nathanyu – he is still doing it. as he exercises his right to self determination. He determines how and when he commits these genocides.

    • Briggs the readers and commenters of this blog are very familiar with the different blood-libels your ideological brothers aare throwing at the Jews polluting society so don’t worry you are not special only a common field version of a lying anti-Semite shit. I want to remind you not to forget the well-poisoning, the killing of gentile children for their blood etc.
      This is the best from your Wiki quote:
      In 1982, a UN commission chaired by Sean MacBride concluded that Israel bore responsibility for the violence.
      This commission must have been a collection of anti-Arab racists saying that when Arabs commit a genocide against fellow Arabs they are not responsible implying that it is in their blood, their culture so the responsible party is the Israelis who didn’t do enough to prevent it.
      Netanyahu commits genocide against the Palestinians? How? What number? When? Where? There is a war between Israelis and Palestinians with victims on both sides but where is the genocide? According to you the Allied Forces and the Red Army committed genocide against the Germans? Against the Japanese? The Royal Army against the Afghans? Or you only consider the victims of a war as victims of a genocide if they are against the Jews?
      Regarding Sharon you are naturally lying. The Kahan Comission stated (and rightly so) Sharon’s the administrative and ministerial responsibility not doing enough to prevent the massacre. In your Jew hating eyes not doing enough to prevent is the same as to personally committing, ordering, initiating a massacre?
      To make a long story short your contributions here really and clearly help the Zionist cause. Please keep it up…

  11. Itsik you obviously have talents over and above that required for the IDF – I do not know what it takes to arrest sleeping children from their homes in the middle of the night. I understand IDF thinks it is a talent.

    • I do not know what it takes to arrest sleeping children from their homes in the middle of the night.
      It takes only a small fact Briggs – that these children killed some Jewish motorists on the road the day before. I know in your eyes it is nothing and these children should have got some candies instead. (What they will certainly get from Hamas and the PA).
      The IDF arrest murderers. This brutal act must be condemned and the murderers must freed immediately. The world according to a card-carrying hater of anything Jewish.

  12. It is that anti-Semite Kahan who holds Sharon personally responsible – besides I admire your talent for selective reading – just throwing allegations of blood libel is no defense of genocidal crimes –

    Also, lighting up the place to assist those engaged in the genocide is not actually not doing enough to prevent it – it is doing enough to ensure maximum efficiency for those involved in the genocide. You are definitely talented member of the propaganda team.

    • The majority killed in the camps were men, all lethally hostile to Israel and despised and hated by their Christian Lebanese hosts some from Palestine but others from Lebanon, Pakistan, Iran, Syria and Algeria.
      Its difficult isn’t it when you are dealing with an enemy whose morals appall you. Do you do the job yourself and go into the camps to root them out or do you give the nod to someone who hates them even more and thereby save a few of your own lives. Its probably safer, if you are an Israeli, to assume the worst of motives of your Lebanese friends as well as your Palestinian enemies. Hundreds of thousands took to the streets in Tel Aviv to protest. Can you imagine that? I don’t think the Lebanese or Syrians thought anything of it.

    • One more Jew-hater with serious reading and understanding difficulties.
      I wrote that the Kahan commission rightly kept Sharon responsible (administrative and ministerial responsibility and not personal) not doing enough to prevent the massacre.
      Briggs understands – I consider Kahan an anti-Semite.
      All of his other crap doesn’t contain even the slightest attempt to answer my question; When, where and how committed Netanyahu any genocide, who are the victims and what is their number. Saying that Sharon had an active role by giving logistical help is just the same old pathetic lie liked by every Jew-hater.

      • But but but… Palestinians have DIED! In Gaza! So that’s obviously a massacre. And don’t go blaming Hamas rockets for falling short and killing people–if the Israelis didn’t force Hamas to fire rockets, then they wouldn’t fall short and kill people in Gaza. So it’s really Israel’s fault anyway.

  13. Is it not the same as another European in the last century said about similar genocidal project against another the other that could not trusted, was lethal to his own supposed race. Those who commit genocide always find it difficult to refrain. Nevertheless genocide remains a crime against humanity. whether they were all men or women or children is totally irrelevant. They were the victims of a genocide against humanity.

    • You brave Europeans, more specifically, Dutch, allowed the massacre of Sebrenica to happen. Aren’t you ashamed? Was the Dutch commander jailed?

      Piss off, ronnie biggs.

    • Is Chomsky Jewish?? Do you define Jewishness, Antisemite?
      According to him, his descency is jewish and that´s it. He belongs to the left extremists who support holocaust deniers and every foe of Israel.
      And he is not a self-hating Jew, as he never declared himself as a Jew, unlike Atzmon who is obviously a self-hating Jew, a very bizarre one.
      Chomsky`s ex post assertion that he had been a sort of Zionist in a specific way mirrors more his communist sympathies than reality. And the communists first supported Ben Gurion and the creation of Israel in the hope of one more Soviet country in the world. The Israeli government duped them and that`s why these stalinists never forgot about it and never forgave Israel, seeking revenge by all means, UNO, Palestinians, Arabs, terror, boycott, lies, propaganda, antisemitism, antizionism, BDS, “peace movements”, ..
      And you are one of their products, Nat, one of their mental children, and Chomsky is one of your great-grandfathers, metaphorically spoken..

    • “Fritz you do not like Chomsky because he is Jewish – You are anti-Simite.”

      Well thanks for letting me know. I’d always wondered why Fritz doesn’t like Chomsky. Now I know for sure (because you said so) that he doesn’t like Chomsky because Chomsky is jewish. Thank you for that great contribution to the discussion here at CiF Watch.
      Oh, and thanks for misspelling anti-Semite. That gives your remark a certain authentic concern for the common clay.

  14. cba you can laugh as an anti-Semite but it is not a laughing matter. Antisemitism is a crime against humanity and one of the most viscous form of racism.

    • “most viscous form”? – No, the most vicious form. And that´s why we constantly kick the shit out of you, Nat

  15. I’m laughing because you’re behaving like an idiot–willfully or otherwise (my guess is “willfully”).

  16. racists like you always think of other races as idiots – or even monkeys so what is new

    • Are you mocking the Koran, Harpal? You can start racial tensions in the sub continent. It’s not a laughing matter.

    • Oh, so there are races after all, eh sing-sing? You are pretty confused, like most Jew-haters.

    • “racists like you always think of other races as idiots – or even monkeys so what is new”
      What’s new? You and yours, who use a faked and phony outrage over anti-Semitism to push anti-Semitism. Beyond disgusting.

  17. Here ends all arguments: “Do you believe that The Protocols of the Elders of Zion are true?” If No, why are you expressing support for an entire culture, society and religion that says they are true? If Yes, you believe a lie. There is nothing more to talk about.

  18. Peacemaker love your style – it is like saying to somebody are you a bastard? and than say if you say no you are not only bastard you are also a liar. And as you say Nazi style there is nothing to talk about the righteous has decided.

      • Fritz the way I would put it is this;

        Maybe not all bastards are anti semites,
        but ALL anti semites are bastards, that’s for sure.

    • Hey, carpal hauser, will you tell us all about your theory of races? You seemed pretty confused. Are you a retard? Probably.

    • Harpal Singh,
      You obviously believe in the Protocols.
      If you wouldn’t you would have denied it on the records straight away rather than get your knickers in a twist over semantics.
      Shall we assume you get another knot over the reply to me?