Hunger Games: A Palestinian terrorist who tried to kill ‘as many Israelis as possible’

Cross posted at the blog,This Ongoing War, edited by Arnold and Frimet Roth. 

Barghouti Guitar from Impact of Terror

(Photo: Abdullah Barghouti created a guitar case filled with explosives, bolts and nails to maximize the lethal devastation of terror attack. Screenshot from the documentary movie “Impact of Terror”)

Trust us on this: being the parents of a child who was murdered changes the way you look at things.

Others might glance at a report quoting this political figure or that official, but that lens of bereavement and the immense frustration and anger that accompanies it tends to make you look a little more deeply than others do.

The secretary-general of the Arab League probably makes headlines whenever he issues a public pronouncement. Without wanting to be unkind, we don’t really care that much what he says or thinks under normal circumstances, and the feeling is probably mutual. Naturally, we  respect and defend his right to speak in the name of the people who appointed him, but Nabeel Elarabys views are background noise so far as we’re concerned.

For the record, he’s a professional diplomat who served as Egypt’s Foreign Minister of Egypt for four months in 2011 and before that was his country’s ambassador in New Delhi between 1981 and 1983. A lawyer, he has an Egyptian law school degree as well as a Masters in Law from NYU.

This morning, we noticed that he has some things to say that actually do intrude into matters about which we take a personal interest. Speaking about a group of convicted practitioners of terror who are serving long prison sentences in Israel, the jurist/politician is quoted yesterday (Tuesday) saying that he is 

following with concern the suffering of the Palestinian prisoners who entered indefinite food strike under very serious health conditions, especially the captive, Abdullah Barghouti, who entered into a dangerous condition due to his continued food strike since last May… Elaraby called on the international community to put an end to arrogance of the Israelis who use violence against the Palestinian prisoners [Emirates News Agency/WAM]

In the name of the Arab League, this senior figure launches into an appeal to “the international community, particularly the United Nations, the International Committee of Red Cross and human rights organization [sic]” to get involved and to “save the lives” of the terrorists who are refusing to eat and “to stop the inhumane practices against them“.

It’s significant that the hungry terrorists are not named by Mr Elaraby except for one of them: Barghouti. (We have the other names here.)

Let’s give him the benefit of the doubt: Mr Elaraby may have said the things he said because his Arab League secretariat aides failed to give him a proper briefing ahead of his speech. So we will try to help. And we plan to send this posting to his office by mail right after it goes up on our site.

We have written about this dedicated killer several times in this blog. Most people who speak about him seem to know next to nothing factual, so allow us to share some basics.

Start with this: the judges who sentenced him expressed regret that condemning Abdullah Barghouti to the death penalty was not an option available to them.

If you have seen the award-winning CNN/CBC/Associated Producers documentary “Impact of Terror”, you will recall that it opens with an extreme closeup of a musical instrument, while an explosives expert explains its diabolical character:

The uniqueness for me was the guitar. Nobody was thinking that inside there is a bomb. He put inside the guitar something like four or five kilogram of explosives, four kilogram or five kilogram of nuts and nails. That’s enough. That’s enough to kill tens of people [CNN transcript]

Among the fifteen people, mostly children, killed by the work of Barghouti’s hands was Malki, our daughter. 130 others were maimed. The lives devastated by his evil amount to many times more than those awful numbers.

We noted here a week ago that Barghouti has done an outstanding job from his prison cell of highlighting the bestiality that underpins his psychopathic nature66 innocent people killedNot enough, he says without blushing. In the intimate setting of a 2006 interview beamed throughout the world by CBS television’s ’60 Minutes’ program, Barghouti clarifies things unambiguously:

I feel bad because the number is only 66. This is the answer you want to hear? Yes, I feel bad because I want more.” [Quoted on a CBS site]

Speaking in an Israeli court in 2010, he again reiterated his dedication to killing more Jews once he is freed again.

Do the people in the Arab League’s leadership know these things? Perhaps we will be able to let our visitors know when our letter gets answered. (We recommend to stay busy in the meantime.)

The wheels of justice caught up with Barghouti a decade ago. Convicted for the murder of dozens of ordinary people, he is serving a longer custodial sentence than anyone else in the history of this country. Yet, when parts of the Arabic press write about him, they call him “administrative detainee and “captive”; bitter experience tells us their readers largely believe such nonsense.

(The following is a snapshot of Barghouti’s Facebook page on July 10th – essentially representing a shrine to a confessed and proud mass-murderer.)

Facebook Barghouti 10Jul13

The people who operate the world’s most influential social media website allowed an Abdullah Barghouti page to go up, and have permitted it to stay upDo they know the facts? We pointed this out two weeks ago [see 25-Jun-13: Dogs, psychopaths and the Internet“], when Barghouti’s active Facebook page had gotten 6,805 Likes; that’s more than a hundred for every one of the dead Israelis he murdered. Go visit his Facebook site this morning and notice that Barghoutti’s savagery now has 7,266 Likes. And of course rising.

What does the Arab League leadership think about such things? Who do they say to questions like these?

  • When you seek to put an end to what you call “arrogance of the Israelis“, is this part of a larger anti-arrogance plan? Is it arrogance when Barghouti boasts willfully proudly, openly about how good it is to kill Jewish children? Is it arrogance for him (and the others like him, and who Like him) to come out in favour?
  • How will the world know when the “arrogance of the Israelis” has come to an end? If Barghouti is allowed (heaven forbid) to leave his Israeli prison cell under pressure from you, would that be a sign in your value system that the Israeli arrogance is over?
  • When the woman who delivered Barghouti’s bomb to the door of the pizza restaurant on that awful summer afternoon on August 9, 2001 was freed in a tragically misconceived deal with the terrorists two years ago, did that demonstrate reduced Israeli arrogance?
  • When the proud, unrepentant Islamist murderers like Barghouti and Tamimi make speeches in public congratulating themselves on their great deeds, is that arrogant? Will you condemn it? Have you ever said one critical word in public – in Arabic – about the satanic hubris that it represents? Did any other Arab leader? Ever?

Why do we write about matters like this? Because so many people are interested in hearing what we think? Think again. Because we are obsessive? No, though others think we are. Because we’re vengeful? No; others have certainly told us we seek revenge, but we say and firmly believe this is about justice, and injustice, and about human rights in the original, honest, non-politicized sense of that term. And to be clear about this: it’s not for lack of constructive things to do with our time.

We are the parents of a child whose beautiful life, filled with constructive acts of goodness, was brutally ended by the guitar-case bomb engineered by Barghouti. Inside us, there is a burning sense of obligation – call it a hunger – to shake the apathy of people who fail to see that of the dozens of innocent victims of this despicable man, not a single one was caught in the crossfireThey were his target as Barghouti himself confessed. The same is true every time jihadists and other terrorists seek out civilian victims, as they invariably do.

His mission, his passion, was “to kill as many Israelis as possible”. That ought to be on people’s minds when the debate over how to think about the hunger-striking terrorist prisoners reaches the mainstream media’s headlines as it soon will. The imperative to understand this needs to extend in all directions – even into the lofty heights of the executive leadership suite at the League of Arab States.

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  1. Yet, when parts of the Arabic press write about him, they call him “administrative detainee“ and ”captive”

    Perhaps this is just one of the “political prisoners” referred to by a certain Harriet Sherwood?

  2. Mr. and Mrs, Roth, i first wish you health.
    Malki and many many more of our country men, women and children will not be coming back. nothing will revert that terrible painful fact.
    Murderers and sick people like Barghouti are not freedom fighters or soldiers.
    They are butchers and no more. Cowards and no more.
    They will be judged by a higher force soon enough.
    All we have to fight for is for other Malkis, those who are still with us.
    Making sure that no more people die in the hands of the Barghoutis among our enemies.
    As for him, He will rot in hell soon enough.
    I once again wish you and your family to know no more sorrow.

    • They will be judged by a higher force soon enough.

      I’m not religious, but … I sincerely hope so.

    • I’m not interested to wait for any “higher force”, I prefer some human intervention in these matters.

  3. It reminds me of that
    “Frequently described as the moderate alternative to the Doha satellite TV powerhouse, Al Arabiya represents the interests of a country that is closely allied with the United States and has no interest in promoting the revolutionary energies that long seemed to galvanize the Al Jazeera staff. For instance, it is unlikely that Al Arabiya’s executives and journalists are any more kindly disposed to Israel than Al Jazeera’s. But the Saudis would never have dreamed of celebrating on live TV, like Al Jazeera did, the release of Samir Kuntar, a Lebanese prisoner held by Israel for 29 years for murdering three Israelis, including a 4-year-old child whose head the hero of resistance bashed in. Al Jazeera presented Kuntar with a cake.”
    Sorry for bringing it up, it just should demonstrate the wider pattern and the mentality we are opposed to.
    The best to you.

  4. Trust us on this: being the parents of a child who was murdered changes the way you look at things.

    I do trust – and now view this statement from the perspective of the parents of over 400 Palestinian children victim of the Israeli attack on Gaza

    • Good point, Jason. If I were those parents, I would be furious with Hamas for using my children as human shields. I probably wouldn’t say anything though, for fear of being dragged through the streets as a “collaborator” or thrown off a roof for being a “dissident”.

  5. A moving and powerful post. Thank you to the Roths for writing it and thanks to CifWatch for publishing it.

  6. Were you furious with the Zionists when the Nazis killed so many Jews?

    Labenal your racism knows no bounds. What has happened to humanity or the Arabs and Palestinians not considered Human.

  7. Jason, you realize, of course, that the majority of those poor Palestinian children fell victims to the bomb making of their parents and neighbors in what Hamas calls “work accidents” or of Kassam rockets which fell short of their Israeli target?
    Also, I’m sure you inquired and realized that the pictures of “Palestinian children murdered by Israel” were proven to be, quite often, pictures of Syrian children victim of the civil war in their country? In fact, the same pictures are currently resurfacing -courtesy of the Muslim Brotherhood- as poor Egyptian children murdered by the Egyptian Army. There one admirable quality in Islamists: they do try to limit the amount of sacrificed children by recycling their pictures over and over.

  8. I did not know the attack on Gaza in 2008/2009 was a playback of the Syrian Civil War of 2012/13 – Modern Technology I find difficult to keep up with. Do you think this is another of Israeli inventions that humanity has to be thankful of. Playback the future in the past. I understand the Israelis have decided to call their latest invention Goebbels Propaganda machine (GPM for short)

    • Another sermon of NSJason, nothing to do with the blogged article, only with his nazi mentality.

  9. Here is atleast an honest Israeli politician who acknowledges those who inhabited Palestine. If only today’s bloggers would be just as honest.

    In our political argument abroad, we minimize Arab opposition to us. But let us not ignore the truth among ourselves. I insist on the truth, not out of respect for scientific but political realities. The acknowledgement of this truth leads to inevitable and serious conclusions regarding our work in Palestine… let us not build on the hope the terrorist gangs will get tired. If some get tired, others will replace them.
    A people which fights against the usurpation of its land will not tire so easily… it is easier for them to continue the war and not get tired than it is for us… The Palestinian Arabs are not alone. The Syrians are coming to help. From our point of view, they are strangers; in the point of law they are foreigners; but to the Arabs, they are not foreigners at all … The centre of the war is in Palestine, but its dimensions are much wider. When we say that the Arabs are the aggressors and we defend ourselves — this is only half the truth. As regards our security and life we defend ourselves and our moral and physical position is not bad. We can face the gangs… and were we allowed to mobilize all our forces we would have no doubts about the outcome… But the fighting is only one aspect of the conflict which is in its essence a political one. And politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves. Militarily, it is we who are on the defensive who have the upper hand but in the political sphere they are superior. The land, the villages, the mountains, the roads are in their hands. The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country, while we are still outside. They defend bases which are theirs, which is easier than conquering new bases… let us not think that the terror is a result of Hitler’s or Mussolini’s propaganda — this helps but the source of opposition is there among the Arabs.

    • Yes, he’s back. It’s the same false quotes but posted by someone with a different name. This time, he supasses himself, however. He says this is “an honest Israeli politician” but makes no mention of a name or a date. No source. Just lies.

      • Thanks Jessy Walker/Jane Sykes/John Baldwin/Mary Thompson/Ibrahim Jaffri/Andrew Bishop/Jason Burgandy. I think we’ve had the discussion about this quote before. You may be happy re-hashing old arguments (that are totally irrelevant to the topic of the thread – or perhaps you think a quote from 80 years ago about the politics of the time justifies the whitewashing of a man’s vicious actions and words in the last decade or so), but don’t expect a warm welcome.

  10. I have no intention of whitewashing the crimes of Ben Gurion. What I said was that he was I said he was honest. Here he is honesty arguing for the ethnic cleansing of Galilee through War.

    Regarding the Galilee, Mr. [Moshe] Sharett already told you that about 100,000 Arabs still now live in the pocket of Galilee. Let us assume that a war breaks out. Then we will be able to cleanse the entire area of Central Galilee, including all its refugees, in one stroke. In this context let me mention some mediators who offered to give us the Galilee without war. What they meant was the populated Galilee. They didn’t offer us the empty Galilee, which we could have only by means of a war. Therefore if a war is extended to cover the whole of Palestine, our greatest gain will be the Galilee. It is because without any special military effort which might imperil other fronts, only by using the troops already assigned for the task, we could accomplish our aim of cleansing the Galilee.
    From a protocol of the Government of Israel, translated from Hebrew by Israel Shahak, in “Truth or Myth about Israel? Read between Quotation Marks” by Charley Reese in The Orlando Sentinel (13 June 1999); later published as “What Israeli Historians Say About 1948 Ethnic Cleansing” in Washington Report on Middle East Affairs (September 1999)

    • “I have no intention of whitewashing the crimes of Ben Gurion.”

      No, quite the opposite. Your intention is to slander Ben Gurion in an effort to whitewash the crimes of Abdullah Barghouti and his fellow travelers in moral depravity, both current and historical. But your case won’t fly in this court.
      Scram and take your teqqiya with you.

    • ” What I said was that he was I said he was honest”

      ‘Jason’ many years ago in the UK there was a TV series called “The Flowerpot Men”, are their former scriptwriters writing your posts for you?

  11. NSJason trolls around with his antisemitc propaganda, filling the blog by repeating the same scrap and lies since years under different monkers.
    This really should be stopped now.

  12. Fritz I did not know Ben Gurion was an antisemitic propagandist. Possibly you are right he was willing to sacrifice even Jewish children to meet his objectives.

    If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel.
    Attributed to Ben-Gurion (pre-War 1939) by Martin Gilbert in “Israel was everything” in The New York Times (21 June 1987)

    • “Jason,”
      You really should have learned by now to put quotation marks (” “) around your de-contextualized anti-Semitic quotes.

  13. Attributed to Ben Gurion and a question comes to my mind is the coup in Cairo a first step towards reversing the exodus?

    Jeff this time with all the appropriate quotes

    “The acceptance of partition does not commit us to renounce Transjordan: one does not demand from anybody to give up his vision. We shall accept a state in the boundaries fixed today, but the boundaries of Zionist aspirations are the concern of the Jewish people and no external factor will be able to limit them.
    Speech in 1937, accepting a British proposal for partition of Palestine which created a potential Jewish majority state, as quoted in New Outlook (April 1977)”

  14. Obomber is having the Gitmo murdering swines who are on hunger strike at their beachfront resort —> force fed – is this more humane? Muslims are using this to act the victim here in USA too

  15. Six years after Hitler came to power in Germany, there was a further stimulus to the demand for statehood when the British Government closed the gates of Palestine to all but a fragment of those who were then trying to reach its shores in rapidly growing numbers. At a conference in London in January 1939, Ben-Gurion pleaded in vain for the British to allow the Jews to become a majority in Palestine (as Churchill had envisaged in 1922 and reiterated in 1937).

    Ben-Gurion returned to Palestine on the eve of World War II convinced that Britain would now never agree to a Jewish majority in Palestine. Immediately after his return he told a secret meeting of his party: ”If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel.”

    Was this statement – which, surprisingly, Teveth does not publish – that of a cynic writing off the future of half of Germany’s Jewish children for the sake of a political aim, Jewish statehood? Or was it a desperate attempt to explain to his closest colleagues that without Jewish statehood in Palestine (itself impossible without massive and immediate immigration) no Jews anywhere in the world would be safe from a threat to their survival? One would very much like to believe the latter, though it would have been particularly helpful had Mr. Teveth been able to give us guidance on this point.

    Mr. Teveth is in no doubt that in regard to rescue, Ben-Gurion adhered to a ”philosophy of what might be called the beneficial disaster.” This is almost exactly what the British playwright Jim Allen accused Ben-Gurion of in his play ”Perdition,” which recently aroused such indignation among British Jews, myself included. Yet Mr. Teveth is emphatic that before the summer of 1944, when Ben-Gurion and his colleagues first appreciated the true scale of the Holocaust, he regarded it as ”a relatively modest catastrophe that his Zionist concept defined as suitable for exploitation.”

    It was only in the early summer of 1944 that the Jewish Agency leaders in Jerusalem realized the full extent of the disaster. Ben-Gurion at once intervened directly with the British authorities in Palestine to try to save the Jews of Hungary, then being deported to Auschwitz, by urging the British to follow up the Gestapo offer of ”blood for goods.” Here again, surprisingly, Mr. Teveth does not refer to Ben-Gurion’s personal appeal to the British High Commissioner in Palestine for acceptance of the Nazi offer (on May 26, 1944). Instead, in a sentence dark with the potential for misuse, Mr. Teveth writes: ”Two facts can be definitively stated: Ben-Gurion did not put the rescue effort above Zionist politics, and he did not regard it as a principal task demanding his personal leadership; he never saw fit to explain why, then or later.” It was not rescue, says Teveth, but the rallying of world Jewry and especially Palestinian Jewry to the creation of a Jewish state, to which Ben-Gurion ”devoted his efforts.” Here we have an oversimplification of motive that may not be sustained by the evidence, for Mr. Teveth abandons at this point in his narrative the rigorous scrutiny of Ben-Gurion’s day-to-day thoughts and activities that is so impressive a feature of this book in the period up to 1940.

    With Britain in control of Palestine since 1918, how was that statehood to be obtained? In 1945, a few weeks after the end of World War II, Winston Churchill advised his own closest Zionist friend, Chaim Weizmann, that as both the Conservative and Labor parties in Britain were hostile to Jewish statehood, the Zionists should enlist United States political support as well as international support for their goal. Ben-Gurion had reached this conclusion a decade earlier, and never deviated from it, or from his faith that statehood would come. When, in 1946, he met Ho Chi Minh in Paris, the Vietnamese leader offered him a Jewish home-in-exile in Vietnam. Ben-Gurion turned this offer down, telling Ho Chi Minh (as he related in a letter to this reviewer on July 27, 1967): ”I am certain we shall be able to establish a Jewish Government in Palestine.” IT is clear from Shabtai Teveth’s book that Ben-Gurion’s confidence, far from being misplaced or starry-eyed, was the result of an incredible personal belief in the possibility of men to obtain by their own physical and mental exertions the justice that natural law and divine prophecy jointly promise. The author does not neglect or minimize the role of others in this struggle, but the one clear message that emerges through the intricate historical narrative is the supreme political leadership, and inspiration, of Ben-Gurion, who never allowed the goal of a Jewish state, or the primacy of immigration, to slip from his central focus. ”The Jews will not be intimidated into surrender,” he told a senior British general in 1939, ”even if their blood will be shed.” These words were not mere bravado, but the frankly spoken conviction of a remarkable man, whose talents and political genius, as well as his human faults and failings, are amply and ably portrayed in this absorbing book.

    • This is a more complete quote from the review below which the sick Jewhater NSJason manipulated, as every nazi would do.

  16. http://www.nytimes.com/1987/06/21/books/israel-was-everthing.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

    The nazi JasonIsmailNickNatzie misuses a book review written by Gilbert and uses a quotation (not from the book reviewed) for which Gibert didn`t give any source.

    By MARTIN GILBERT; Martin Gilbert’s most recent books are ”Winston S. Churchill: Road to Victory 1941-1945,” ”Shcharansky: Hero of our Time” and ”The Holocaust: A History of the Jews of Europe During the Second World War.”
    Published: June 21, 1987

    BEN-GURION The Burning Ground 1886-1948. By Shabtai Teveth. Illustrated. 967 pp. Boston: Houghton Mifflin Company. $35

    Give the Nazi faker a treatment.

  17. Fritz would that treatment include a shower – I thought you sounded a Nazi – you are.
    Some real rubbish here – those who are incarcerated without trial are playing the victim. Why is humanity so cruel or is it just fascist bloggers like Fritz at this site who lack any humanity?

    So here it is from his memoirs
    Memoirs : David Ben-Gurion (1970), p. 36
    “I don’t understand your optimism,” Ben-Gurion declared. “Why should the Arabs make peace? If I were an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country. Sure, God promised it to us, but what does that matter to them? Our God is not theirs. We come from Israel, it’s true, but two thousand years ago, and what is that to them? There has been antisemitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They only see one thing: we have come here and stolen their country. Why should they accept that? They may perhaps forget in one or two generations’ time, but for the moment there is no chance. So, it’s simple: we have to stay strong and maintain a powerful army. Our whole policy is there. Otherwise the Arabs will wipe us out.

    • As (I think) Gerald told one of your earlier incarnations, we don’t give a damn if you think we are fascist racists, committed to a campaign of ethnic cleansing and genocide*. You are an insignificant, pathetic troll with the morals and intelligence of a starfish (which have no brain), and your opinion is as worthless as a torn paper umbrella in a monsoon.

      * How long before Jason replies claiming that I have admitted that “we are fascist racists, committed to a campaign of ethnic cleansing and genocide”? Place your bets.

      • Labenal, he reminds me of another comment-twisting asshole who used to post here and was also fond of the initials JB (when he wasn’t hijacking the nicks of people like me or Jeff).

    • If exposing warped liars like yourself qualifies Fritz as a “fascist”, then you can count me as one too.

      Fritz would that treatment include a shower – I thought you sounded a Nazi – you are.

      You make disgusting comments like that and expect people to take you seriously?

      • “You make disgusting comments like that and expect people to take you seriously?”

        Oh….I’d say it’s more like he gets off on baiting Jews.

  18. The nazi NSJasonIsmailNickNatzie keeps on faking memoirs, the quotation is taken from Goldmann`s memoirs and is not proven, just an assumption of Goldmann.
    Adam, kick this nazi shit out.

  19. Labenal would now tell us the difference between himself and the fascist. I suspect there is none. Nazis did not give a damn of what anybody thought of their inhumanity. You are no different. Now how much you want to bet that fascists will welcome you in their midst. I forget you are already with them. Is it your slogan they have copied “No more Mosques”

    Rot in your fascist filth.

    • What was that annoying sound? Oh it was that “Jason”, who is more pointless than a crate full of pencils which has just been sat on by an elephant.

    • Rot in your fascist filth.

      … says the sad specimen positively swimming in verbal diarrhoea.

    • Fritz has a point Adam. It might just be the time to send old Jason and his comments out to the cornfield.