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A day of anti-Israel hatred and Holocaust trivialisation in Parliament.


Cross posted by London based blogger Richard Millett

Ismail Patel, Yasmin Qureshi MP, Megan Driscoll, Linda Ramsden in Parliament .

Ismail Patel, Yasmin Qureshi MP, Megan Driscoll, Linda Ramsden in Parliament .

“It was supposed to be Never Again” declared Ismail Patel but the Palestinians in East Jerusalem, he said, are “oppressed”, undergoing “ethnic cleansing” and suffering a “genocide”.

Patel, Chair of Friends of Al Aqsa, was speaking in the Grimmond Room of Britain’s Houses of Parliament last night at an event to launch his organisation’s “Jerusalem Report” which focuses on “Protecting Palestinian Citizenship Rights in East Jerusalem.”

According to Megan Driscoll, Advocacy Officer at Coalition for Jerusalem (based in Jerusalem), who spoke first, Israel’s “Jerusalem Masterplan” is to secure the Jewish majority in the city.

Driscoll said that the Palestinian population there is currently 34% and that Israel’s aim is to drive this down to 30% and probably lower.

The way Israel is doing this, she continued, is through “residency revocation” which makes Jerusalem Palestinians “stateless”.

Driscoll said Israel revokes residency if Palestinians have lived abroad for more than seven years or have taken citizenship in another country.

She said there is also a Jerusalem “centre of life” test that Palestinians must pass. This, she said, is so stringent that even Palestinians still living in Jerusalem have not been able to prove such centrality and have lost their residency rights.

Driscoll claimed that since 1967 there have been over 14,000 such “residency revocations”. She referred to this as the “Quiet Deportation” and said it was successful because instead of being “mass collective punishment” it received less attention in the media because it was executed against individuals and families.

Linda Ramsden, Director of Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions, said that Israel’s “policy of displacement began in 1948 when 530 Palestinian villages were demolished and 750,000 Palestinians made refugees”.

She described how most Palestinians applying for building permits are refused because they cannot prove ownership of land due to a lack of documents (does it not occur to Ramsden that maybe, just maybe, they do not own the land in question?).

Ramsden said that once a house is built without a permit a Palestinian family will suffer from stress worrying which day their home will be demolished. She said this causes a lot of “stress related illness”.

When a house is due to be demolished, she continued, hundreds of police and dogs arrive which, she said, is “very frightening”. Bulldozers are used for the demolition and pneumatic drills destroy the base of the house.

She claimed the families are fined and sent a bill for the demolition and that some Palestinians demolish their own homes to avoid these “horrendous costs”.

Meanwhile, last night’s event was hosted and chaired by the Labour MP for Bolton South-East Yasmin Qureshi. Qureshi was fresh from the House of Commons debate that afternoon on the situation in Gaza.

Qureshi is very quietly spoken but the words that come out of her mouth are pure poison where Israel is concerned. If one thinks that Ismail Patel’s application of the term “Never Again” to the Palestinians was bad enough, Qureshi’s Holocaust minimization is more shocking.

Here is what she said in yesterday’s Parliamentary debate:

“What has struck me in all this is that the state of Israel was founded because of what happened to the millions and millions of Jews who suffered genocide. Their properties, homes and land—everything—were taken away, and they were deprived of rights. Of course, many millions perished. It is quite strange that some of the people who are running the state of Israel seem to be quite complacent and happy to allow the same to happen in Gaza.” (my emphasis)

This followed Labour MP Gerald Kaufman’s attack on ALL Israelis in the same debate:

“Again and again, Israel seeks to justify the vile injustices that it imposes on the people of Gaza and the west bank on the grounds of the holocaust. Last week, we commemorated the holocaust; 1.7 million Palestinians in Gaza are being penalised with that as the justification…It is totally unacceptable that the Israelis should behave in such a way, but they do not care. Go to Tel Aviv, as I did not long ago, and watch them sitting complacently outside their pavement cafés. They do not give a damn about their fellow human beings perhaps half an hour away.” (my emphasis)

This is how Britain’s Parliament is sometimes so abused. While innocent Syrians are being murdered and left permanently disabled by barrel bombs dropped out of the sky by Assad’s forces certain MPs are offensive about Israel, Israelis and the Holocaust instead.

While Kaufman voted against any intervention in Syria, Qureshi couldn’t even be bothered to turn up to that vote last August!

Last night’s event launching the “Jerusalem Report” was sold out but due to the strike on the London underground not many people could get there.

It must be galling that when so much effort has been put into producing an evening of hatred, lies and Holocaust minimization so few people are there to appreciate your efforts.

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30 replies »

  1. Gerald Kaufmann is right – If Israel cared more for its citizens it would also benefit the ordinary Arabs of Gaza (with whom I used to work in Tel Aviv) by reasserting its sovereignty and driving out every last terrorist who pokes his head out of a bunker.

  2. That Gerald Kaufmann is allowed to enter Israel is a gross negligence of duty by the Israeli authorities, especially the Ministry of the Protection of the Environment.

  3. There is nothing in what Qureshi said that minimised the holocaust. It is the writer of this blog who is interpolating from what she said about the Palestinians. That representation by you that when one talks about Palestinian suffering one is somehow minimising the suffering of the Jews in Europe is racist in the extreme. It is like saying only Europeans suffer. House demolitions, forced evacuations and unequal treatment based on ethnicity is what the Palestinians suffer today and in their own country. Well done to Qureshi for hosting such a meeting.

    • Mr. Evans,

      This is what she said:

      “It is quite strange that some of the people who are running the state of Israel seem to be quite complacent and happy to allow the same to happen in Gaza.” ”

      What does she mean by “the same”?

      Let’s examine:
      “…what happened to the millions and millions of Jews who suffered genocide. Their properties, homes and land—everything—were taken away, and they were deprived of rights. Of course, many millions perished. ”

      None of this is happening to the people of Gaza as a sole responsability of the any Israeli government, whether past or present.

      Saying it is “the Israeli govt fault” is a lie.
      Equating the people of gaza to the Jews of WW2 is a lie and a mocking of their memory.

      The suffering of the people in the Gaza strip is a complex resault of many factors, most of which go back to 1948 war and the way in which the surrounding Arab states used them as pawns.
      I failt to recall many instances of the Nazis, or most of the occupied European countries, aiding Jewish civillians in the same way the Israeli government helps the Palestinian of Gaza.

      • I see it all went a tad quiet in Robert Evans’ corner after that dismissal of their preposterous post. And that bit about “It is like saying only Europeans suffer” is simply bizarre.

  4. So Qureshi said “many millions perished” in the Holocaust and that Israel is “happy to allow the same to happen in Gaza”. Please explain how that is not minimising the Holocaust, unless you think that millions have perished in Gaza?

  5. From the ‘About’ section of Yasmin Qureshi’s own website;

    “From 2004-2008 she was a Human Rights Adviser to Mayor of London Ken Livingstone”
    It needs no further comment from me.

  6. Richard may be you need to explain why talking about what is happening in Gaza to the Palestinians or in Jerusalem minimises the Holocaust. There are over 4.5 million Palestinian refugees who are not allowed to return to their homes. There are obvious similarities between what happened to European Jews in Europe. How it developed into a Holocaust over periods of decades of anti-semitism. Now you refuse to see that similarity because you think the suffering of European Jews somehow supercedes that of any other ethnic or national group. We are talking about what is happening today and instead of discussing the attrocities Israel is committing all you can say it minimises the Holocaust.

    There is no way I or Qureshi minimise the Holocaust. In fact, I think Holocaust was an immense act of inhumanity that it should not be allowed to happen ever again to any ethnic group ever again. It should be stopped from developing anywhere including in Palestine.

    • Mr. evans:

      “it should not be allowed to happen ever again to any ethnic group ever again. It should be stopped from developing anywhere”

      I look forward reading your letters of complaint to the Lebanese, Egyptian and Syrian governments.

    • Only flawed characters with the intellectual capacity of Salafists and no shame denigrate the Holocaust and use the term for spreading Palestinian propaganda.
      Only fanatics of a certain sort and with a certain goal are talking about that the Holocaust should not be allowed to happen again to any ethnic group ever again when the issue is Israel, the state of Jews.
      It “happened”, as people like to phrase who have difficulties with the truth, to Jews, not to unknown ethnic groups. Anybody who supports the notion that the increasing Arab population in the disputed territories is threatened by the “Aktion Reinhard”, gas chambers and KZS is explicitely working on the issues to denigrate the holocaust, to diffame Jews and to demonize Israel.
      Anybody can be rightly called ant-Semite according to EUMC Working definition who draws comparisons of the contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
      What about the report ? No impact, because of this policy and mentality?

    • The plight of the original 800,000 Arab refugees (whose number has morphed to 4,5 million) is correctly to be laid at the feet of the Arab countries who put them i n camps, refusing them citizenship or right to work in their professions, even though they have a mutual culture and language, and kept them suffering since 1948 under the unrealistic belief they will return to Israel, rather than to an apparently longed-for Palestinian state. The 800,000 Jewish refugees who fled from Arab pogroms at the same time arrived in Israel and are successfully absorbed into the life of the state.

  7. allow the same to happen in Gaza –
    Patently,demonstrably 100% untrue.
    Hardly surprising:
    Yasmin Qureshi – Pakistani-born,human rights advisor to Ken Livingstone,President of the Pakistan Club, chaired the Human Rights and Civil Liberties Working Group of the Association of Muslim Lawyers,a supporter of “all-black shortlists”.

    They do not give a damn about their fellow human beings –
    Right.Israelis can’t just sit and have a coffee now?
    He has a really bad case of self hatred;this is a psychological defence that a few members of victims of hatred fall into,(see Stockholm syndrome).

    Shame on Qureshi for hosting such a meeting.

  8. Qureshi has issued the following statement;

    “The debate was about the plight of the Palestinian people and in no way did I mean to equate events in Gaza with the Holocaust.

    “I apologise for any offence caused.

    “I am also personally hurt if people thought I meant this.

    “As someone who has visited the crematoria and gas chambers of Auschwitz I know the Holocaust was the most brutal act of genocide of the 20th Century and no-one should seek to underestimate its impact.”

    There is a word to describe her above statement, but I’m too polite to use it.

  9. Censorship put that coffee down it is middle of the night and knock at that Palestinian door to arrest a thriteen year old who was seen playing with stones since the football pitch is comandeered by the occupying army for target practice.

    • You’re so hip to the music, Darren. Maybe you should tell me where you live, and I’ll throw some rocks at your head. It will be sweet and innocent and we can act like it’s a football game as I try to dismember your kids. You know, for peace.

    • Darren:

      “a thriteen year old who was seen playing with stones”

      Playing with stones, is that what you called this where you come from?
      You must be coming from one of those countries where they publicly stone rape victims and gays to death.

  10. “Go to Tel Aviv, as I did not long ago, and watch them sitting complacently outside their pavement cafés. They do not give a damn about their fellow human beings perhaps half an hour away.”

    He forgot that some years ago those fellow human beings from Gaza and WB were murdering those sitting in cafe’s in suicde bombing. those fellow human being didn;t give a damn . Well maybe they did they were sorry they didin;t murder more of those cafe visitors. Why give a damn about someone who want you dead.

  11. alexa – if they do give a damn why than do they not get off their backsides and stop house demolitions – Mind you some do as reported in the Jewish Chronicle recently not from Tel aviv but atleast from London

    By David Middleburgh, January 16, 2014
    Follow The JC on Twitter
    I have just returned from a three-day tour of the West Bank and east Jerusalem, organised by the pro-Israel, pro-peace organisation, Yachad. The participants were all passionate Zionists and, were it not for some grey hairs and wrinkles, we could have been a youth group. In fact, we were all senior lawyers or individuals with a particular interest in the rule of law.
    The purpose: to understand the legal context to the occupation. The centrepiece, a unique visit to the IDF military courts that maintain law and order (for Palestinians only) in the West Bank, unique in that we were the first organised group of British Jews to visit the courts. In the course of the tour we met a very broad spectrum of people from representatives of Israeli NGOs, a senior employee of the Yesha Council, which represents settlers, and a senior adviser to Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman.
    My conclusions? First, there is no substitute for finding out what is really happening on the ground by visiting and asking difficult questions. I had made numerous assumptions from both Jewish and non-Jewish media, which were simply wrong.
    Secondly, those who consider that stories of systemic breaches of human rights under the occupation are an anti-Israel myth are deluding themselves.
    We spent a morning at the military courts observing young Palestinian boys, aged 13-17, being processed, and speaking to their mothers. It is clear that children are invariably arrested in night raids by the army at gunpoint, cuffed and blindfolded and held, often for hours, in that condition, denied access to food, water and toilet facilities, interrogated without being advised of their rights, without a lawyer and without their parents.

    Perhaps you can read the full article on http://www.thejc.com/comment-and-debate/comment/114819/take-a-lawyers-advice-visit-occupied-territories

  12. To funny, Yasmin Qureshi – Pakistani-born human rights advisor to Ken Livingstone.

    The real genocide this Pakistani Muslim doesn’t want you to know, was Pakistan slaughtering 3 million Bangladeshi people and raping between two- and four hundred thousand Bangladeshi women in 1971 in a systematic campaign of genocidal rape.

    Its all here to read below.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Bangladesh_Genocide

  13. Yasmin Qureshi basically absolves the Palestinians from all guilt and blame for their violent murderous behavior. .

    Yasmin Qureshi knows Palestinians cannot be expected to behave like civilized people so she makes excuses for their terrorist atrocities.
    Kind of like Pakistan murdering millions of Bangladeshi people in 1971

  14. The famous UN Resolution 242, which ended the Six-Day War, makes no reference to Palestinians, but just refers to “refugees.” Why is that?

    Because prior to the 60’s the word “Palestinian” — if it meant anything at all — referred to Jews living in Palestine. The Palestine Post (now the Jerusalem Post) was the Jewish English-language newspaper. The Palestine Orchestra (now the Israel Philharmonic) was a Jewish orchestra.

    Arabs living in the territory of Palestine were called Greater Syrians, cause these Arabs came from Syria late in the Ottoman empire and during the British Mandate.

  15. 1) Israel has equality under law regardless of race, religion or gender. Arabic and Hebrew are dual official languages.
    2) The PA has a law giving the death penalty for selling land to Jews
    3) The PA and Hamas both say no Jews are allowed to be in “their” nation
    4) Christians are fleeing Muslim persecution under both PA and Hamas rule
    5) Jordan says it’s illegal for Jews to be citizens
    6) Saudi Arabia says non-Muslims are barred from citizenship
    7) Every Muslim nation has at least partial Sharia law, implementing discrimination against non-Muslims.
    8) Copts in Egypt, Maronites and other Christians, animists, Berbers, Chaldeans and other non-Muslims, regularly document religious discrimination in their countries.
    9) The fifty-seven member nations of the Organization of the Islamic Conferences openly reject the UN’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights because equality is against the core tenants of Islam.

  16. I keep thinking: How is it possible for Palestinians and Muslims to sit and plan a such an evil crime of mass murder of innocent people they never met – especially on such a festive occasion? The simple fact is that there is only one entity that encourages such behavior and is currently involved in nearly all the murders, mayhem and misogyny around this planet – the cult of Islam. …

    http://www.jpost.com/National-News/East-Jerusalem-terror-cell-charged-with-planning-attack-on-wedding-hall-340432
    East Jerusalem terror cell charged with planning attack on wedding hall
    YONAH JEREMY BOB
    02/05/2014

    Men planned to enter Bayit Vagan wedding hall in haredi dress, carry out shooting attack with mini Uzi guns. wedding hall
    Nof Wedding Hall that was target of terror plot
    The Jerusalem District Attorney’s Office on Wednesday filed an indictment with the Jerusalem District Court against an alleged terror cell of four east Jerusalem residents for planning to attack the “Nof” wedding hall in Bayit Vagan, Jerusalem.

    The cell included Anas Ouisat, Basel Abidat, Ahmed Sarur and Amru Abado of the Jabal Muchbar neighborhood all between the ages of 19-21, said the indictment.

    The indictment’s details were as follows: Ouisat and Abidat decided in December 2013, based on nationalistic motivations, that they would carry out an attack against Israeli civilians in Jerusalem and in coordination with terror groups.

    Ouisat suggested a shooting attack on the Nof hall both because there would be a large number of casualties, between 800-1500 attendees, and because he had previously worked there.

    They planned to enter the hall in haredi dress in which they would conceal mini Uzi guns and they got an estimate of NIS 50,000 from a weapons dealer.

    At some point, Sarur joined the group, including performing surveillance of the hall to plan the attack.

    However, he had a dispute with the original two, eventually dropped out and was eventually replaced by Abado.

    The head of the wedding hall, Gilad Pinchas, expressed his immense relief and gratitude in an interview with The Jerusalem Post.

    “Nof is a place of celebration,” said Pinchas, “the indictment is a gift from God. Nof has top security conditions, and we will continue to consider security a top priority at our hall for all our events and all our guests.”

    The prosecution has requested to remand all four to police custody until the end of the proceedings.

  17. Kelso are you a weekend locum they got on the cheap not very educated or sophisitcated enough to atleast try and disguise his racism – So Israel laws are not descriminatory – so what is this about the law of return surely Palestinians cannot return Jews can because his grand father was born in Palestine 2000 years ago