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Guardian covers tabloid scandal about Bibi’s wife; ignores Gaza terror attacks


In 2005 Israel evacuated every Jew from Gaza, an act which provided Palestinians in the coastal strip a chance to have an independent polity free of foreign interference for the first time in history.  

In 2006, despite assurances from the ‘international community’ that the absence of an Israeli military and ‘settler’ presence would moderate the Palestinian electorate in Gaza, a plurality of Gazans voted for Hamas – an extremist group committed to the annihilation of Israel and the murder of Jews.  Hamas has run the territory without political opposition since their violent purge of Fatah in 2007.  

Since 2006, and despite the absence of Israeli occupation, over 8,000 rockets have been fired from Gaza into Israeli towns.  Or, to put it more accurately, there have been 8,000 individual attempts to murder innocent Israelis since that time. 

To those who don’t understand why many Israelis are reluctant to cede more land to the Palestinians without sufficient and sustainable security guarantees that aren’t dependent on the good will of Palestinian leaders or the casual ‘assurances’ of Western governments, the answer can be culled from the results of this real-life ‘land for peace’ experiment.  In short, though most Israelis strongly support, in principle, a two-state solution, most wearily expect that the new Palestinian state will quickly devolve into either failed state or, more likely, a terror state.

The reason why this blog focuses at times on the Guardian’s failure to report terror attacks from Gaza (and the West Bank), is that such an egregious failure to report the full story about the conflict allows their readers to lazily dismiss Israel’s insistence on defensible borders. This security doctrine is based on past wars and terror attacks, as well as the current reality of terrorist enemies on their borders (Hezbollah and Hamas) who are in possession of a combined arsenal of up to 170,000 (increasingly sophisticated and accurate) rockets and missiles.

So, for instance, the Guardian has failed to publish even one stand-alone article  (by their regional reporters) on any of the 100 plus rocket attacks from Gaza since January, 2014.  (The only minor exception pertains to two AFP stories (not written by Guardian staff) which characteristically focused on Israel’s response to rocket attacks.)

Here are the headlines of the two AFP reports which even mentioned Gaza rocket attacks. (Note the ‘tit for tat’ narrative, and emphasis on Israel’s response to the Gaza rockets):

AFP/Guardian story, March 3:

march 3AFP/Guardian story, March 13:

March 13

 Though their regional correspondents evidently didn’t find scores of deadly projectile fired at Israeli civilian targets newsworthy, they did, however, find time to pen two articles on complaints by former employees of the Netanyahus (a maid and a household assistant) about alleged unfair treatment by the prime minister’s wife, Sara.

Here’s a January 17 report by Rory McCarthy:

jan 17

Here’s an April 9 report by the Guardian’s new Jerusalem correspondent, Peter Beaumont:

april 9

 ‘Shocking’ details in the Jan. 17 report, included the following:

Peretz [the former maid] worked in the Netanyahu family home, in Caesarea, for six years. In the lawsuit she reportedly claimed that the prime minister’s wife, a psychologist, denied her basic social benefits and shouted at her for not following rules. Among the rules was allegedly the instruction that the employer be addressed only as “Mrs Sara Netanyahu,” following her husband becoming prime minister last spring.

Peter Beaumont’s story including even more ‘explosive’ charges:

He alleges that on another occasion Mrs Netanyahu woke him at 3am to complain that he had bought milk in bags rather than cartons. “When I complained about the time and the tone in which she spoke the harsh words to me, Mr Netanyahu interfered in the discussion and said I should do everything Mrs Netanyahu asked ‘so she will calm down’,” Naftali claims.

To put the Guardian’s priorities in some perspective, here are stats comparing their coverage of over 100 rockets attacks (100 individual Palestinian war crimes) vs their coverage of complaints against the prime minister’s wife by two former employees:

  • Guardian stories covering Sara Netanyahu’s alleged mistreatment of two employees: 2
  • Number of words in two Guardian reports on Sara Netanyahu’s alleged mistreatment of two employees: 1228
  • Guardian stories primarily devoted to terrorist attacks from Gaza: 0
  • Number of words devoted to Gaza rocket attacks on Israel within two broader Guardian/AFP reports (which focused on the general ‘tit for tat’ attacks between Gaza and Israel): 110

In case you were wondering, the latest illegal attack on Israeli civilians by the terrorists in control of Gaza (not reported by the Guardian) occurred on April 9, the very day the Guardian’s Jerusalem correspondent published the latest installment of L’Affair Sara.

Such contrasting priorities, which place greater emphasis on gossip about the Israeli prime minister’s wife than on deadly projectiles fired at innocent Israeli men, women and children, explains quite a bit about British misconceptions on the root cause of the conflict, and the main impediments to its resolution. 

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  1. Quote: “Such contrasting priorities, which place greater emphasis on salacious gossip about the Israeli prime minister and his wife than on deadly projectiles fired at innocent Israeli men, women and children, explains quite a bit about British misconceptions regarding the root cause of the conflict, and the main impediments to its eventual resolution. “

    Well, it would explain them if the readership of the Grauniad were wider or more substantial. The reality is that it’s now a shadow of its former self, with a small and falling circulation, and losing money and advertisers hand over fisk (deliberate). Its real influence is over the BBC opinion-formers; seemingly the BBC buys many times the number of Grauniads daily than other papers. To me, it’s the BBC that’s the real problem, and all the unintelligent trolls who frequent CIF.

    • How many people have been killed or injured by these 100 rockets?

      You cannot expect foreign media to report on rockets which – thank G-D – have not harmed anyone, when women’s and children are killed in neighbouring Syria every day.p

      • You cannot expect foreign media to report on rockets which – thank G-D – have not harmed anyone…
        So you say that the NYT wouldn’t report on rockets launched from Germany to France if they didn’t cause personal injuries. Very funny assertion… BTW that Hamas couldn’t hurt Israelis we must thank not exactly G-d but the blockade what keeps away more sophisticated weapons from Gaza.
        ….when women’s and children are killed in neighbouring Syria every day.p
        Interesting. Count the Guardian articles about the Syrian (Congo, Darfur etc.) mass genocide and compare the number of articles about Gaza. Maybe you will make a bit less idiot of yourself next time.

        • Germany has not been occupying France since 1967 and building illegal settlements in a French territory.

          • Correct. France is occupying Elsace. But the occupation has nothing to dio with reporting rocket attacks anyway.

        • How many people have rockets killed or injured in the past ten years?

          Shouldn’t the Guardian write about traffic accidents in Israel, which appear to kill far more Israelis than rockets?

          • So if only three Israelis have been killed by these rockets – it is not worth reporting.
            Shouldn’t the Guardian write about traffic accidents in Israel, which appear to kill far more Israelis than rockets?
            According to you until the number of the victims of traffic accidents is higher than the victims of terror then everything is fine. I wish you and your family a similar statistical possibility to survive.

            • Thank G-D the situation is very calm in Israel now. Your obsession with convincing everyone that Israel is dangerous, deterring direly needed tourists from visiting the country as a result, seems to suggest you are anti-Israeli. This is very sad.

              • Thank G-D the situation is very calm in Israel now.
                Not G-d harry. The resolution of israel to kick the crap out of your friends and blocking the weapons to achieve Gaza and the PLo what keeps Israel safe.
                Your obsession with convincing everyone that Israel is dangerous, deterring direly needed tourists from visiting the country as a result, seems to suggest you are anti-Israeli.
                I always knew that Jew haters like you have the IQ of a mentally challenged amoeba.

  2. What has any scandal associated with the wife of any Prime Minister to do with Gaza? Or are you saying that the wife’s scandal is a direct result of the terrorist attacks from Gaza. I am sure abusing the maid may help reduce terror attacks from Gaza. Quite likely for many on this blog. These Arabs when will we be totally rid of them. Let us hope abusing maids help resolve the terrorist problem.

    • Try reading the article. The point is obviously that the lawsuit shouldn’t be the most important story in the country.

      • Considering how blew news from Israel are these days – Netanyahu’s refusal to comply with the peace process, BDS getting stronger every day – it is obvious that some light, entertaining news about Bibi’s wife will capture the imagination of readers.

          • The Government had committed to release a fourth batch of long term Palestinian prisoners. It failed to do so. Moreover, it announced it would build additional units in an illegal settlement. Therefore it is responsible for the collapse of the peace process, as states by John Kerry earlier this week.

            • The Palestinians had already reneged on their promise not to go to the UN and the settlements are only illegal if Israel decides so. Kerry has blamed both sides.

              • – Israel refused to release a last batch of prisoners, which resulted in the Palestinians going to the UN. Israel is responsible for this failure.

                – Israeli settlements in the Palestinian territory are illegal under article 49.6 of the Fourth Geneva Convention. Whether the current Government of Israel agrees to it or not is irrelevant – this is international law.

                • Wrong again. The “Palestinians” started seeking illegitimate recognition and that’s when Israel said no.

                  The Geneva Convention does not apply. Whether you want it to or not is irrelevant – international law is made between countries, not by sanctimonious libero-fascists.

          • As for BDS, considering how nervous the Government seems to be about it, I would suspect they know it may have a considerable impact on the economy in coming years.

        • Netanyahu’s refusal to comply with the peace process? Palestinians were to have dismantled illegal terrorist organizations in Phase 1 of the Road Map which they never did.

          BDS getting stronger, hah!

    • Either desperate or deluded. Take your pick. Not that the two are mutually exclusive, of course.

    • The Netanyahu affair is enticing to foreign media because it is another story of Middle-Eastern leader reportedly abusing the staff. Seen from the UK, the private life of Middle-Eastern rulers always looks exotic and people are gonna read about it.

      • Read your own previous post. According to it “You cannot expect foreign media to report on rockets”. So you are saying that the UK population is more interested in the private life of a foreign prime minister’s wife than mass murder and wars – they are not exotic enough. A sad picture on the average IQ of the UK’s population…

        • Of Louise they are. People love reading about the lives of the Kadhafis, the Ben Alis, and now the Netanyahus, because Middle-Eastern bling bling is entertaining for Western audiences.

          • What are you saying? Kadhafi and Ben-Ali were the democratically elected prime ministers of democratic countries?
            The world of your kind of Jew-hating shit is really funny…

            • All rulers in the Middle-East have had entertaining lives. Does not matter whether we are talking about Kadhafi, Olmert or Netanyahu. It is still the Middle-East and definitely a strange part of the world as seen from Britain.

                • Some apologies for the Arab dictatorships. entertainment. These left-liberal idiots should have to live there, but no, they prefer the bad western democracies to these entertaining Arab dictators.

  3. This non-issue is of far less global significance than even Olmert’s recent conviction.

    • The Hungarian leaders and their Nazi sidekicks are your best allies Harry. But the Guardian considers the wife of Bibi more important than the return of Nazism in their own European backyard.

  4. Gaza was given to the Palestinians is a joke. Gaza is under siege and as far as the UN is concerned it is under occupation. No one can keep lock people up the way they are in Gaza and than bomb and kill them on regular basis must expect some retaliation. As for what has Gaza to do with abusing the maid who, I am assuming, is not from Gaza? So why should the article have reported on the attacks from Gaza that did not take place yesterday escapes me.

    • Gaza is ruled by Palestinians and even the UN said that Israel’s blockade is legal. It’s just more of your empty-jarheaded, parroted garbage calling it a “siege.” The one laying siege doesn’t supply the besieged.

      Gaza locked up? The reason that you probably don’t rail against Egypt for having a closed border is because Egyptian lives may matter to you.

      You’re obviously not smart enough to grasp the concept that the point of Adam’s article is the Guardian’s obsession with the lawsuit to the exclusion of attacks by your “heroes.”

      • Wrong Michael. The UN said that the sea blockade was legal, but that the land blockade was illegal.

        • The UN never said that the blockade is illegal. But if it said then so what? Why should Israel to let in weapons to a hostile neighboring country?

          • Israel prevents people and goods from entering or leaving Gaza, except for a few humanitarian cases. It has been imposing a blockade on Gaza since 1967. As occupying power of the Palestinian territory, Gaza included, Israel is legally responsible for the welfare of its population.

            • More of your ignorance. Israel sends thousands of trucks loaded with supplies into Gaza every week. The one laying siege doesn’t do that for the besieged. Maybe your problem is a basic lack of understanding English.

            • Not for welfare, Natzie, of a population in disputed territories. Reading and understanding the Geneva conventions is beyond your comprehension.

    • “No one can keep lock people up the way they are in Gaza and than bomb and kill them on regular basis must expect some retaliation.”

      Ah yes, never mind the facts and the truth, if Jews are being murdered then it is obviously their own fault. That is exactly the kind of demented logic that used to be regularly employed by Goebbels and Streicher.

    • One third of Gaza’s arable land and most of its fishing grounds are controlled by Tsahal and out of bounds for Palestinians anyway. The Israeli blockade on Gaza is ongoing. Everyone in Europe knows this.

      • One third of Gaza’s arable land and most of its fishing grounds are controlled by Tsahal and out of bounds for Palestinians anyway.
        An advice for them: Stop the Quassams and Grads.
        The Israeli blockade on Gaza is ongoing. Everyone in Europe knows this.
        And this” everybody in Europe” knows about the rockets of Hamas too?

        • Everybody in Europe wants the Government to stop the occupation, to stop building additional units in illegal settlements and to focus on achieving a two state solution at last. So does there American administration. The views of far right wing political parties and of settler lobbies contradict Western values and alienate our remaining allies.

          • Everybody in Europe can stick it where the sun don’t shine. Israel is not going to cave in and endanger its citizens for a bunch of champagne socialist elitists.

          • “Everybody in Europe…”
            A very sweeping generalization and wrong.

            ‘Harry’, or whatever your name really is, when the day comes that you speak to “Everybody in Europe” to ascertain their opinion let me know. Until then try to refrain from silly generalizations they only make your posts seem even more ridiculous than they already do.

        • Easy to see what Europe “knows” and what it doesn’t know, except, apparently, for the “people of Europe” themselves.

  5. When the likes of Natzies stop terror attacks, the gates will open. But nobody opens the door to welcome Palestinian terrorists, except so called peace activists.

  6. Here is the official view on Gaza by the UN spokesperson as quoted by http://blog.unwatch.org/index.php/2012/01/27/un-we-still-consider-gaza-occupied-by-israel/
    But do not allow facts to stand in the way of your propaganda. As for being murdered ask yourself the question who is really being murdered look at the numbers look at the facts but hey why look at facts when lies suit your prop

    Spokesperson: Under resolutions adopted by both the Security Council and the General Assembly on the Middle East peace process, the Gaza Strip continues to be regarded as part of the Occupied Palestinian Territory. The United Nations will accordingly continue to refer to the Gaza Strip as part of the Occupied Palestinian Territory until such time as either the General Assembly or the Security Council take a different view.
    Question: Can I follow up on that? It is the legal definition of occupation and why is Gaza considered occupied?
    Spokesperson: Well, as I have just said, there are Security Council and General Assembly resolutions that cover this. For example, there was a Security Council resolution adopted on 8 January 2009 — 1860 — and that stressed that the Gaza Strip constitutes an integral part of the territory occupied in 1967. And as you know, Security Council resolutions do have force in international law.
    Furthermore, there is a resolution from the General Assembly from 20 December 2010, and while it noted the Israeli withdrawal from the Gaza Strip and parts of the northern West Bank, it also stressed, in quotes, “the need for respect and preservation of the territorial unity, contiguity and integrity of all of the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem”. So just to repeat that the United Nations will continue to refer to the Gaza Strip as part of the Occupied Palestinian Territory until either the General Assembly or the Security Council take a different view on the matter.

    • Oh, you mean that same UN which just condemned Israel for the suffering of “Syrians” in the “occupied Golan,” but failed to condemn Syria?

      Thank you and next.

    • According to this logic, the whole of Ukraine is occupied, not only the Crimea.
      Furthermore firstly the spokesperson lied,
      Under resolutions adopted by both the Security Council and the General Assembly on the Middle East peace process, the Gaza Strip continues to be regarded as part of the Occupied Palestinian Territory.

      then corrected
      that stressed that the Gaza Strip constitutes an integral part of the territory occupied in 1967.

      Correct citation:
      Stressing that the Gaza Strip constitutes an integral part of the territory
      occupied in 1967 and will be a part of the Palestinian state,

      Well, the lies are going far up in the UN. From Natzie to Spokesmen.

      • The UNGA: a place where lies are told. A place where serial human rights abusers parade around in polite company.

      • The territory of the state of Palestine is inalienable. It includes the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, and Gaza.

        Why do the few affluent Israelis never invest in illegal West Bank settlements, preferring to invest inside Israel? Because they know chances are most of these illegal settlements will be evacuated, just like the illegal settlements in gush Katif were.

        • Somehow you forgot to quote the relevant articles of the international law that make the settlement illegal…

          • Any settlement in the West Bank, East Jerusalem included, is illegal under art. 49_6 of the Fourth Geneva Convention. This was confirmed by the International Court of Justice in 2004, by the High Contracting Parties to the Convention and by the ICRC.

            • The Geneva Conventions do no apply because the land was not captured from the State of Palestine. The ICJ was given a task with a premise that the settlements are illegal. Warped and circular logic.

              The ICRC is irrelevant.

              • The Fourth Geneva Convention des apply, as confirmed by the International Court of Justice. Who the State of Palestine was seized from is irrelevant.

                • The State of Palestine was not seized because it has never existed. That doesn’t see to penetrate whatever dense mass is in your head.

                  I’ve already stated, which you have not disputed, that the ICJ was given a premise that of “occupation” and they can only rule on what they’re given.

                • @Michael
                  It was only a request for an advisory opinion, no confirmation, Natzie keeps on repeating the lies since two years, under different monikers, as every ‘brave’ nazi.

            • Natzie lies, neither the ICJ nor the High Contracting Parties confirmed, It is another falsification of Jewhaters continuing the cxentury long inventions of antisemitic lies.

          • Never mind that, BamBam does’t say what it is that makes the imaginary territory of state of Palestine “inalienable.”

          • The State of Palestine has been sitting at the UN for nearly two years. Maybe it’s time you read the press?

            • ‘Harry’ maybe it is time you read the decision of the UN.
              GA/11317 is clear it upgraded their status to that of “Non-Member Observer State” Status, which actually upgrades them to the same level as the Vatican City.

              It is also the same status that was held by Switzerland for more than 50 (fifty) years.

  7. Virtually always the Guardian deserves the harshest of criticisms for the dishonesty of its coverage, its uncritical acceptance of the most extreme and unfounded calumnies, its systematic refusal to devote adequate coverage to analyses of Israel’s security needs, its welcoming of commentators who espouse exterminationaist anti-Israelism, etc, etc.

    But “the personal can be political” and allegedly or actually reprehensible behaviour by a politician in his or her private life can have have an impact upon political decisions made or upon domestic political pressures brought to bear upon the politician in question.

    The coverage of such matters by the Guardian and other media is thus fully justified

    • Why , there is a people under the cosh from a military power, unjustly, just that your immoral acts have gone on far too long , and unpunished by the world at large, anyone would think you are of value to someone, the good old USA maybe

      • Why , there is a country under the unrelenting delegitimization campaign, unjustly, just that your immoral campaign has gone on far too long , and overlooked by the world at large, anyone would think you are of value to someone, good old Europe maybe

      • Fritz bunderpants wants to lecture the Jews about morality and punish them for their abhorrent behaviour. European chauvinism hasn’t changed much over the millennia, but the difference lies in a sovereign nation that is willing and able to protect Jews against such sanctimonious bigotry and spite.

  8. In Jim’s world;
    Jews are Nazis and war is peace. Blowing up pizzerias is an act of peace, checkpoints to prevent such acts are “atrocities.” The new Nazis call Jews Nazis.
    Jim Davison is living the sado-masochist’s dream.

  9. “Where does it say that only Christians can be Nazis”
    That’s what the Grand Mufti asked Hitler. At that point the Mufti was invited to the party. The history begins there and leads all the way to Jim Davison.

      • It ain’t the name by which you go by but the deeds that you condone baby, but miserably fail to legitimise, from time immemorial and all that kind of shit

  10. Michael, you are an intelligent person, perhaps you can answer how many Palestinians live in the settlements? Why are there 4.5 million Palestinian refugees if they can live in their own homes in Palestine? Are they mad? belong to an inferior race? or as the White supremacist used to say in South Africa just different and therefore not entitled to live in places where the superior races live.?

    • Because that is how libero-fsscist define this country to suit their own needs. If Jews live there, it’s a “settlement.” If Arabs live there, it’s a “refugee camp.” The reason there are 5.5 million refugees is because Palestinians are the only people in the world with the privilege of inheriting refugee status.

      Has it occurred to you that they would not want to live in “settlements?”

      • Palestine do not have special refugee status. Somali refugees who have been living in Kenyan refugee camps for generations also transmit refugee status to their children. What is unusual here is that Israel refused to let Palestinian refugees go back home even after the cessation of hostilities. These refugees still have property deeds to their houses and lands, and these titles remain valid.

        • Palestinian refugees go back home even after the cessation of hostilities.
          So the so called “peace process is just a post modern psychodrama. Who needs it after the “cessation of the hostilities”?
          These refugees still have property deeds to their houses and lands, and these titles remain valid.
          Maybe they should consider to make peace and then demand a compensation. It could be deducted from the compensation to be paid for Jewish refugees from the Arab countries who still have valid property deeds.

        • The 30,000 figue is accurate, whether you like it or not is irrelevant. Also, the Somalis are citizens of the country they will return to, which is also not in play for your pet cause (seriously, how many fake Palestinian refugee issues will I have to read before one of you douches uses the word “citizenship”?).

  11. Michael, perhaps I was incorrect in my assumption. Actually there are many refugees from other parts of the world they have the same rights under the UN charter as you can see here applied to the Afghan refugees in Pakistan – I know this destroys your exclusiveness status – but hey why let the facts come in the way of nice racist narrative – (Zionists are exclusively targeted for their evil deeds)
    http://www.unhcr.org/pages/49e487016.html

    • Try reading your own source. Where does it say that children of Afghan refugees born in other countries are considered “refugees.”

    • I keep finding myself saying this to unfriendly posters, but it keeps being applicable as it is here…You didn’t actually read this article, did you? There is literally nothing in this piece that you can cite as an application for your oh-so-beloved Palestinians. If anything, you idiot, you just gave away your case that the Palestinian “refugee” issue is legitimate, because you linked to a UN body that (for all its legion flaws) is addressing the real refugee issues on this planet, instead of the UNRWA that fellates the false issue vomited out by the Palestinians. (pause) How does it feel to care so much about something and yet be so stupid that you just killed its legitimacy?

    • Exclusiveness? If all refugees have the same rights under the UN High Commission for Refugees, then UNWRA is necessarily redundant and obsolete. Let’s make an agreement today, right now, to immediately dismantle it, as it steals more than its share of valuable resources from the more deserving. Yes, certainly, let’s start distributing those resources equally to all refugees, i.e., real ones, instead of diverting the lions’ share, as is the case, to the Palestinians, like the good socialists we are.

  12. I saw the film The Boy in Striped Pyjamas. It is an amazing account of the brutality of the racists and fascists. It is interesting the Germans, who were committed to the racist ideology really believed they were building a better world by getting rid of what they considered beneath them. Yet, at the same time there was dissent even within the families of the soldiers and sometime among the soldiers themselves.

    The family of the Nazi commander paid the ultimate price and lost their own son in the extermination process. It is worth a watch to learn the lessons of history so we do not repeat the same brutality today under any guise.

    • “It is worth a watch to learn the lessons of history so we do not repeat the same brutality today under any guise.”

      It is for exactly that reason that CiF Watch struggles so valiantly against the kind of anti-Jewish racism disseminated by the Guardian and people such as yourself.

    • Is there a single gas chamber for Palestinians?

      Were there overflowing markets in concentration camps (I mean actual concentration camps) like in Gaza?

      Has a Jew ever blown up a bus of German schoolchildren or a crowded German cafe?

      30% of Jews were murdered in the Holocaust.
      1.65% of the entire Palestinian population (compared to the current population) have been killed in the conflict. How many are combatants and how many civilians is unclear since Palestinians call armed militants “civilians.”

      Are Palestinians buried in mass graves?

      Do Israeli soldiers confiscate Palestinian heirlooms and valuables?

      Do Israeli medical doctors perform experiments on Palestinians?

      Your lame attempts at moral equivalence are beyond disgusting.

      • 80 per cent of Palestinians in Gaza have been dependent on foreign aid to survive since Israel imposed a blockade on the coastal enclave in 2007, leading to economic collapse and unprecedented levels of poverty.

        • Maybe they should consider to stop launching rockets at Israel. I’m pretty sure this move could help to convince the Israelis to lift the blockade.

      • The houses and lands of the 700,000 Palestinians who were forcibly displaced from their homes in 1948 were never given back and to this day, illegal settlements are being built on Palestinian land in the West Bank, in violation of international law and of property laws.

        • Only a small part of them were forcibly displaced, not like the Jews of Muslim countries.
          illegal settlements are being built on Palestinian land in the West Bank, in violation of international law and of property laws.
          Maybe you should quote the relevant international laws forbidding Jews to live on the West-Bank.

          • Moroccan Jews left Morocco out of their own free will. The Jewish Agency even organized flights to encourage them to make Aliyah. Many Moroccan Jews living in Israel are still nostalgic of their country and keep visiting on summer.

            • Your rewriting of history is amazing. Anyway from your post it is very clear that your knowledge of Israel is on par with your mental abilities.

        • Many fled because the Arab armies told them to do so. Only 30,000 true refugees remain. Building on Israel’s land is only illegal if Israel deems it to be so. There is no international law that governs because there is no international parliament and international law is made by mutual agreements between countries.

        • 30,000 refugees remain from the original 700,000 (and by the way, they’re outnumbered by the 800,000 Jewish refugees from Arab countries that libero-fascists don’t care about).

          Israel decides what is legal and its territory, not libero-fascists.

          International law is decided between countries, not by libero-fascists.

  13. Joshua much as you would like to in the 21st century you will not be able to carry out another Holocaust despite all the technological developments in Israel –

    • Jim, much as you would like to in the 21st century you will not be able to carry out another Holocaust despite all the technological developments available.

  14. Well Michael have a word with Joshua he is planning something resembling the gas chambers – perhaps you need to put him right

  15. Michael But this is what he said to me –

    “Let me put it another way – six million more Jews and six million fewer people like yourself and the world would be an infinitely better place.” earlier today –

    • To what particular ethnicity does he refer? Are ignoramuses and people who look for angles to bash Israel considered an ethnicity?

  16. Michael – That is all the fascists in Germany wanted bit more land in the world – in defense of the father land – Now you see the similarity between Zionism with its defensible borders and the Third Reich –

  17. Israel still occupies Palestine to defend the fatherland – Just because Nazis withdrew from some of the countries as the second world war progressed does not imply they changed their ideology of occupying other peoples lands for the sake of the fatherland. Even today the Israeli government insists on continuing to build in the West Bank. So who are you kidding Mr Michael – yourself May be?

    • “Occupation” is a myth that Arab leaders invented, supported by their servants, such as you. The land is disputed because there has never been a state in the history of the world called “Palestine” and the Arabs are no more rightful heirs to the land than Jews.

      When the Palestinians grow up and accept that they will not get EVERYTHING they want in a negotiated agreement, there will be peace.

      Furthermore, if Israel had the intention of “occupying” anyone’s land then they would not have withdrawn from any land.

      Logic is a difficult thing for you, isn’t it?

  18. Actually Michael, you make a good point about the overflowing markets in Gaza, The film Boy in the Stripped Pyjamas show the German officers seeing a film of how the concentration camps were administered. Everybody in them was happy. There were cafes with children eating cakes and young people enjoying social gatherings. The truth was a million miles from the fantasy just in the backyard of the house the officers were watching the film. So once again, you have come up with another similarity between the Zionist and Nazi ideologies. You must watch this film. it is very educational.

  19. Michael you do not understand occupiers relinquish their occupation not because they do not want to occupy anymore but because they do not have the force to continue the occupation. Simpleton logic can be very misleading. If Israel does not want to occupy the conflict would have ended long time ago.

    • “Simpleton logic” is exactly what you try apply Jim. Gaza is not occupied and the violence there has only increased. You and Benderpants (maybe you’re the same person) actually reveal yourselves quite clearly. You never back up what you say with facts or analysis. All you do is parrot slogans.

  20. Get down to earth Michael. We were not talking about occupation of Gaza. Palestine is occupied by Israel. You know it. I know it and Israel knows it. I had already discussed Gaza. UN has clearly declared Gaza occupied both at the Security Council and the General Assembly level.

  21. Michael it was the Crusaders who left and Palestine remained. I am not going to take up a new hobby.