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Why does World Council of Churches support freedom for terrorists who murdered innocent Jews?


The following post was originally published by This Ongoing War, a blog edited by Arnold and Frimet Roth

A question to the politically engaged Geneva-based leadership of the World Council of Churches:

You very publicly called in mid-April, via an official WCC statement of solidarity, for expressions of Christian sympathy for what you termed (this is a direct quote) “some 5000 Palestinian men, women and children, languishing in Israeli jails“. When you did that, did you understand that solidarity for that cause means being solid with people who are this week whipping up the masses and calling for acts of calculated Palestinian Arab murder directed at ordinary Israelis?

We pointed out to you some time ago [“17-Apr-14: Christian solidarity with unrepentant murderers: where’s the outrage?“] that many of those “men, women and children” for whom you express your compassion are self-confessed murderers. Many more of them are proudly unrepentant terrorists. This did not stop your chief executive, the Reverend Doctor Olav Fykse Tveit, from calling on the 500 million worshipers belonging to WCC churches around the world “to pray for, visit, and tend to the needs of all [those] prisoners, no matter the reason for their detention.

No matter the reason for their detention is exactly the expression he used. A careful and well-prepared clerical gentleman, he surely understood and meant what those words, in their plain sense, mean. So we can surmise that, for the WCC, the key thing is not that they are murderers of innocent Jews but that they are ‘languishing‘. And so Mr Tveit’s address called upon the Christian faithful to

remember Palestinian prisoners through prayers and acts of solidarity that restore to them their freedom with justice and dignity

We wrote at the time that the justice and dignity denied – permanently and irretrievably – to victims of Palestinian Arab savagery like our own 15-year-old daughter Malki have failed over the past decade to rise to the level at which the WCC sees fit to speak out.

Malki Roth

Malki Roth

 

It’s difficult for us to not notice that the WCC leadership has been consistently silent, and remains silent, about the victimhood of Israeli children, women and men.

Tveit and the learned elders of the WCC are, of course, not alone in their appalling moral blindness. 

Hamas calls on armed wing to kill soldiers and settlers| Elhanan Miller | The Times of Israel | June 10, 2014, 12:48 pm | Hamas has called on members of its armed wing in the West Bank to target Israeli soldiers and civilians in a bid to ease the plight of its prisoners in Israeli jails, a party spokesman said on Monday. “We call on the men of resistance in the West Bank, primarily the Al-Qassam Brigades, to fulfill their duty in protecting the prisoners on hunger strike by targeting the occupation soldiers and its settlers,” Hamas spokesman Hussam Badran wrote on his Facebook page Monday. “The occupation must pay a high price in the blood of its soldiers and settlers until it is persuaded to solve the issue of prisoners on hunger strike. This is everyone’s task, on the individual and organizational levels,” he wrote… [Times of Israel]

This Husam Badran happens to be someone about whom we know a thing or two.

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Husam Badran depicted on a Hamas website

In “3-Feb-13: Little noticed, unjustly-released terrorists are in charge of the ongoing jihad attacks against Israelis“, we quoted the British newspaper, The Guardian, certainly no great friend of Israeli policies, reporting on Badran’s part in the ‘Gilad Shalit for Terrorists’ transaction of October 2011:

Fresh lilies are regularly laid at a monument by the Tel Aviv Dolphinarium bearing witness to an evening in 2001 when 21 Israeli teenagers were killed while queuing outside a nightclub. Another 132 were injured in the attack by Saeed Hotari, a young Palestinian suicide bomber affiliated with Hamas. But last week flowers arrived more in protest than in sorrow. Husam Badran, the former head of Hamas’s military wing in the West Bank and instigator of the Dolphinarium attack, is expected to be among 477 Palestinian prisoners released on Tuesday in a deal to free Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit. A further 550 will be freed within two months. “It’s surreal. It’s beyond belief,” said one young mother angrily as she looked at the monument. “I may be the only one against it, but no good deal sees the release of 1,000 killers. People say Netanyahu showed courage in agreeing to set them free, but I say he has given in to terrorism.” [The Guardian, October 16, 2011]

Badran, a monstrous man, walked free in the Gilad Shalit transaction in 2011. He has been living since then in Qatar where he re-established a career doing what he knows best – plotting against the lives of Israelis, and encouraging others to execute. (A terrorist cell connected to him was penetrated by the Israeli security establishment in February 2013 with numerous subsequent arrests – see our post.) Our guess is that Badran, the convicted and unjustly freed murderer, must be thrilled to bits by the moral support given to him and his co-conspirators by the WCC via its call for “freedom with justice and dignity… [for] all [those] prisoners, no matter the reason for their detention.”

If you’re new to our angry criticism of the World Council of Churches, then please know that as the parents of an innocent child murdered by those prisoners, we have made sincere efforts to engage the appropriate people at WCC Geneva in discussion. We felt a mission to explain to them the very bad things they are doing and to hear their self-justifications, if they can offer any. So far, they have not.

But it’s actually worse than that. As we wrote here [“6-Jun-14: Fear and loathing at the World Council of Churches“], the WCC (self-described as “the broadest and most inclusive among the many organized expressions of the modern ecumenical movement, a movement whose goal is Christian unity… breaking down barriers between people, seeking justice and peace“) says via its Director of Communications that it’s unwilling to get into a discussion. Here’s the full text of his letter to us dated June 5, 2014:

Dear Mr. Roth, Yes, I believe we would have nothing further to say.  Best wishes to you and your family. Mark Beach, WCC Director of Communication

So take it from this non-Christian, non-Moslem couple: there’s something seriously wrong with a major global-facing church roof-body that wishes freedom, justice and dignity for convicted murderers and rolls down the shutters when a family devastated by the actions of those very murderers engages them in serious discussion.

We hope some of our church-going readers will see fit to pass this post around. If you’re not sure, the names and websites of all the WCC member churches are here: “23-May-14: On the dignity of murderers and their victims: An appeal to Christian friends“. 

We’ll sign off with a word to the WCC management team sitting there in Geneva:  and to come back and openly discuss these very serious life-and-death issues with us.

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Logo for WCC “peace pilgrimage”

34 replies »

  1. There is a biblically based requirement on Christians to care for prisoners “no matter the reason for their detention” (Matthew 25:34-46). ‘Visiting the imprisoned’ is one of the seven Corporal Works of Mercy, together with feeding the hungry, clothing the naked etc.The WCC implicitly draws on this tradition in calling for compassion towards the Palestinian prisoners, as they would in respect of any other prisoners..

    Additionally the WCC points out some of the illegal and immoral characteristics of Israeli treatment of Palestinian prisoners. These include detention without trial, imprisonment of children in inhumane conditions, widespread use of torture and inadequate medical facilities.

    • Brian you are wrong.
      “There is a biblically based requirement on Christians to care for prisoners “no matter the reason for their detention” (Matthew 25:34-46″
      The requirement is to visit those in prison, not care for them.

      Matthew 25: 43 ” sick and in prison and you did not visit me.”

      • I’m not one for interpreting the Bible, Gerald, but in this case the meaning should be obvious even to your good self. The whole context of this passage from Matthew is about caring for different groups of people. There would be little purpose in visiting prisoners if you showed no concern for their welfare.

        • “I’m not one for interpreting the Bible, Gerald, but in this case the meaning should be obvious even to your good self.”

          You are correct on both counts Brian.
          1) You are not one for interpreting the Bible.
          2) The meaning is obvious, although obviously not to you.

          Revelation 22:15
          “Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and fornicators and murderers and idolaters, and everyone who loves and practises falsehood.”
          So that takes care of the murdering terrorist scum and their supporters!

          Repent now Brian before it is too late for you.

        • I’m not one for interpreting the Bible, Gerald, but …

          … you’re doing your darndest to be interpret it in a contrarian way in order to offend.

          And besides: the prisoners Matthew was referring to would at worst have been sheep stealers – not child murderers.

          • “And besides: the prisoners Matthew was referring to would at worst have been sheep stealers – not child murderers.”

            Do you think there were no “child murderers” in biblical times? You occasionally talk sense, pretz, but sadly not on this occasion. Just use of imprisonment implies detention in humane conditions for ALL, for periods in proportion to the seriousness of the crime. Torture and withdrawal of medical care after imprisonment, for example, do not belong in in any just judicial system, whatever the crimes involved.
            Israel offends against this principle not just in the way it treats its Arab prisoners but in the discriminatory way in which its sentencing policy applies to Arabs and Jews. Jews convicted of murdering Arabs are routinely given lighter sentences than Arabs who kill Jews and are frequently paroled after serving minimal time.

    • Go fuck yourself, Sencar. Seriously, I hope you and yours get blown up by a disgruntled teenager convinced to carry a bomb for the promise of getting pussy in the afterlife. People like you are pathetic and are DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for the continued belief that it’s cool to kill some Kikes.

  2. I am glad somebody is speaking up for the Palestinian prisoners being ill treated in Israeli prisons – If Israel does not want to be criticized by the various world bodies than it needs to put its house in order and stop the practice of inhumane and illegal detention without trial. It is against internationally accepted norms of human rights to force feed prisoners or anybody for that matter. Abbas has sent a letter to the Security Council about the plight of the Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails. Hope the Security Council takes action.

    The hunger strikers in hospitals are shackled to their bed by hands and legs for 12 hours a day, and bound by one leg for the remaining 12 hours. They are required to seek permission from the guards to use the restroom, and are not allowed to use it at night. Due to their constant shackling, the detainees are forbidden from walking in the rooms, despite the recommendation from the Ministry of Health to do so to keep their blood circulating.

    • So, basically, what you’re saying is that you share the WCC’s moral sympathies, and care more about ‘freedom, justice and dignity’ for terrorist murderers than the innocent Jews who they killed. I’d like to know how such Guardian Left thought evolved for you. At what point in your life did you cease to know the profound moral difference between victim and perpetrator?

    • ChickenBrain, your analysis is entirely wrong. The minor facts that Israel is the most liberal, tolerant, egalitarian state in the region (and more so in many respects than many “advanced” Western countries) and has made huge sacrifices and compromises in the forlorn hope of peace have not done anything to lessen the criticism by “the various world bodies” (who you don’t identify).

      The only way Israel can hope to do so is to agree to her own destruction and subjugation into yet another Muslim-dominated state of Palestine. That is NOT going to happen, no matter how much you wish it would.

      • P.S. I, for one, am not in favour of abuse of prisoners, by ANY country. I find it strange, however, that the WCC (and other “world bodies”) seem so obsessed by alleged, and largely unproven, abuse of terrorists and murderers being held in Israel, yet hardly raise a peep of concern about the thousands tortured and killed for political, sexist or racist reasons by states as far flung as China, Zimbabwe, Chile, Venezuela, Sudan, Iran, Saudi Arabia etc etc.

        • ” I find it strange, however, that the WCC (and other “world bodies”) seem so obsessed by alleged, and largely unproven, abuse of terrorists and murderers being held in Israel”

          The abuses are hardly ‘unproven’. There is a mass of testimony to their validity, not least from the 950 witnesses who spoke to Breaking The Silence. If you actually look at the WCC website you will find that they are concerned about injustice all over the world, not just in Israel, as are other NGOs often criticised here such as Amnesty.

  3. The new Israeli law banning prisoner releases before the end of their terms doesn’t apply to older prisoners, but it is a step in the right direction. Hopefully monsters like the Fogel murderers will rot forever. Anyone who could support the freedom of people who murder 3 month old babies in their cribs is an evil, evil person.

  4. I always find it interesting when bodies give themselves grandiose titles such as World Council of Churches. According to their own website the WCC brings together Churches from various denominations throughout the World and claims to represent 500 million Christians.
    First point it is highly unlikely that they speak for all or even a majority of the 500 million Christians they claim are affiliated to the WCC.
    Second point the estimated number of Christians in the World is 2.1 Billion.
    So even IF they did speak for all those belonging to Churches affiliated to the ‘World’ Council of Churches that would still be LESS than 25% of Christians in the World.

    ‘World’ Council of Churches? More likely two old ladies in funny hats and a man out walking the dog who has come inside to shelter from the rain.

  5. Of course atrocities are routine and checkpoints many Jeff I would not argue with you.
    Just In 2008/2009 over 20 days Israel’s military bombed one of the most densely populated urban area killing over 1400 Palestinians, including men women and children. Palestinian houses are demolished daily. Many Palestinians have to endure daily hours going through checkpoints. There is no shortage of attrocities that the Zionist entity commits on a daily basis. Perhaps let me put it you that there is something wrong with your perceptions if so many in the world including the WCC disagree with your perception of what is nice. I do not see anything nice about ethnic cleansing Do you Jeff?

  6. Iranian chicken nutter uses wikipedia, a devilish invention of the degenerated west, according to the moolahs.

  7. ״In 2008, an Israeli soldier in command of a checkpoint outside Nablus was relieved from duty and imprisoned for two weeks after he refused to allow a Palestinian woman in labour to pass through.״

    Chicken, if you haven’t noticed, this directly contradicts your claim that the Israelis are evil people who are all too happy to let a woman give birth at a check point. But I suspect you’ll ignore any evidence to the contrary.

    “Palestinian houses are demolished daily. Many Palestinians have to endure daily hours going through checkpoints. There is no shortage of attrocities that the Zionist entity commits on a daily basis.”

    The horrors of demolishing illegal building and setting up checkpoints. This is unprecedented evil, the epitome of barbarity! Of course the settlers get their illegal houses demolished as well, but in their case “atrocity” turns into “justice”, since they belong to a different ethnicity.

    Don’t worry, it only sounds like racism.

  8. Jeff When is Israel going to fulfill its obligation to keep order in Chicago, Cairo, Copenhagen, Calcutta etc. Is this legal responsibility attributed to Israel in the same document that gave them Palestine. Am I being Anti-Semitic? .

  9. Arnold Roth also wrote this great article 2 years ago detailing the Palestinian mass murderer prisoners the WCC supports.

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/11649
    Op-Ed: PA Prisoners Are Hungry, But For What?

    Fewer (much fewer) than 1% of the Arab prisoners hunger-striking in Israeli prisons are administrative detainees. Almost all were charged, tried and convicted for the most serious offences you can think of.
    May 14, 2012

    The media are filled with reports about a protest strike by Palestinian Arab prisoners and their friends. What’s it about?

    Two terms keep coming up in almost every report: the strikers are “unjustly imprisoned” and it’s a “battle for freedom and dignity”. But this is not about justice or dignity. Those key terms ought to mean something but as happens so often, they have been hijacked in the name of a vicious war and turned on their heads.

    Some of the talking heads say/scream/shout that this is about administrative detention. But fewer (much fewer) than 1% of the Arab prisoners hunger-striking in Israeli prisons are administrative detainees. Reliable statistics we have seen say there are between five and ten such individuals among the 1,500 to 2,000 hunger strikers. [The protestors estimate that overall there are about 300 administrative detainees in the Israeli prison system.]

    The two who began hunger-striking in March are men called Bilal Diab and Tha’er Halahlah who are administrative detainees, held so far for nine months and 22 months respectively. Their petition came before the High Court of Justice on Monday and was heard and rejected.

    The court pointed to the ongoing ties of the petitioners to terrorist funding and terrorism and that they are a clear and immediate security risk to Israeli citizens. It added (which is also significant) that the Israel Prison Service is meeting or exceeding the standards required by international law regarding prisoner treatment already.

    Diab and Halahlah are in fact leaders in Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ). The angry voices are demanding that we think of them as unjustly shunted off to prison for the equivalent of failing to pay for a television license. The media and the ranks of ‘activist’ NGOs are currently filled with such voices.

    Of the other strikers, almost all were charged, tried and convicted for the most serious offences you can think of. Hundreds are in prison for murder. Quite a number of them are unrepentant multiple murderers.

    We are tracking the online news photographs (there are many) being pumped out by the wire services to enhance the global impact of this protest. We ourselves have more than the usual amount of familiarity with some of the names and faces.

    When we look past the sad-faced mothers and the photogenic children in the foreground, what we see (and most others don’t notice) is people like Abdullah Barghouti in the posters at the back. This places the whole affair into a different perspective.

    That particular prisoner (see our post: 10-Apr-07: Regarding Abdullah Barghouti) made the bomb that stole our daughter’s life from us. He has never denied the charges against him. On the contrary, like so many jihadists, he was proud of them before he went to prison; he remains proud of them now.

    That particular prisoner, Abdullah Barghouti, made the bomb that stole our daughter’s life from us.

    He says publicly – on US television, for instance – that he will kill more Jews when he gets the chance. More than that: he regrets that the bombings he carried out did not kill more Jews. In his own unforgettable words, “I feel bad because the number is only 66”.

    Prisoners like Barghouti, and not some mythical jaywalkers capriciously locked up administratively by the vindictive Zionist entity, are the cause for whom the Palestinian Arab protestors and their many supporters are out there shouting and burning tyres. The evidence is there in front of your eyes.

    And if you ask: which editor would want to be seen fanning the flames of protest in support of a convicted psychopath like Barghouti serving 67 life terms, then a partial answer is: maybe the editors at UPI, APF, Daily Star – Lebanon, Scoop New Zealand and numerous others. Click on any of the links int he previous sentence to see pictures of hunger-strike protestors standing in front of Abdullah Barghouti’s grim portrait.

    What would you say to the people demonstrating for rights, justice and dignity for Abdullah Barghouti and the hundreds of other convicted murderous thugs?
    Is theirs the cause that gets you up every morning?

    Is the shortage of cable movie channels in their [prison] lives something that gets your adrenalin going?

  10. Chickenshit sounds like another one of Mondoweiss stooges on here.
    Chickenshit should protest Hamas using Gazans as human fodder.

    Hamas MP Fathi Hamed February 29, 2008:
    “For the Palestinian people, death has become an industry, at which women excel… the elderly excel at this… and so do the children. This is why they have formed human shields of the women, the children.”

    The IDF warned Muhammad Weil responsible for firing Kassam rockets at Israel, to evacuate his home in Beit Lahiya in advance of an air strike. Instead, hundreds of locals, mostly women and children, were recruited to Baroud’s house. Israel suspended the air strike, lest these human shields be harmed. In response to the incident, Hamas crowed: “We won. From now on we will form human chains around every house threatened with demolition.”

    There are many, many more examples. THIS TACTIC WOULD NOT WORK IF THE ISRAELIS WERE THE BARBARIANS HAMAS IS.

    The Israeli government released a video condemning Hamas for sending children under the age of 15 years old to military training camps, where they were taught guerrilla tactics, to fire weapons, and use explosives. Hamas admits to running summer training programs, but denies using children as combatants.

    In addition to being trained as combatants, Israel claims that Hamas uses children as spotters, deterrents to airstrikes and raids, and as unwitting suicide bombers with the use of improvised explosive devices. Human Rights Watch – “[Hamas] repeatedly fired rockets from densely populated areas, near homes, businesses, and a hotel”, while international law states that parties must not place military targets in densely populated areas.

    “Hamas rocket and weapons caches, including rocket launchers, have been discovered in and under mosques, schools and civilian homes.” – Steven Erlanger, New York Times

    Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center – Hamas has used over 100 mosques as weapons caches, and rocket launch pads.

    Human Rights Watch investigated the death of 53 civilians over the course of 19 incidents in Gaza, caused by Hamas fighting in densely populated areas.

    The Obama Administration strongly condemned the rocket and mortar attacks on Israel in 2008, stating that “I’m going to do everything in my power to stop that, and I would expect Israelis to do the same thing.” Martyrdom Shahid is the Arabic word for ‘witness’, and is used to identify a ‘martyr’. Martyr is a important title for Muslims, who sacrifices their life for their cause or country, or faith.

    Fathi Hamad stated on Al-Aqsa TV that “For the Palestinian people death became an industry, at which women excel and so do all people on this land: the elderly excel, the Jihad fighters excel, and the children excel. Accordingly (Palestinians) created a human shield of women, children, the elderly and the Jihad fighters against the Zionist bombing machine, as if they were saying to the Zionist enemy: ‘We desire death as you desire life’.” This was in relation to when the Israeli Air Force notified Muhammad Weil Baroud that his apartment complex was about to be subject to an airstrike, and he asked for volunteers to act as a human shield against it. The Israeli Air Force subsequently postponed the strike when hundreds of civilians answered the call.

    Ahmad Bahr, Hamas speaker, stated in 2010 that the Garden of Eden could only be entered by prophets, the righteous, and martyrs, where they will be rewarded with “2.5 million black-eyed virgins” and that nobody on Earth “will be able to confront the resistance, or to confront the Mujahideen, those who worship Allah and seek martyrdom.” Politically Motivated Violence Politics and Terror Extrajudicial Executions Immediately after the 2006 hostilities between Israel and Gaza, Hamas reportedly tortured and executed alleged supporters of Israel and Fatah. Human Rights Watch estimates:
    – Several hundred Gazans were maimed or tortured
    – Seventy-three Gazans had their arms and legs broken
    – Eighteen Palestinians were executed

    In August 2009, in an attempt to kill cleric Abdel Latif Moussa, Hamas militants raided the cleric’s mosque. The cleric was guarded by 100 soldiers from Jund Ansar Allah, and the ensuing battle left thirteen people dead, and 120 injured.

    In November 2012, six Gazans were publicly executed by Hamas militants for allegedly supporting Israel. They were shot one after another, and the sixth victim was dragged through the streets by a motorcycle. Legal Actions Against Hamas Over 200 charges were filed against the five leaders of The Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development in 2001, by the US Justice Department, for allegedly funding Hamas. After a mistrial and a retrial in 2008, the leaders were convicted on 108 of the charges. The foundation’s assets were frozen, and the five leaders received life sentences.

    In 2004, German Federal Court classified Hamas as a terrorist orgainzation, stating that their humanitarian aid could not be separated from their terrorist activities, and political actions.

    In 2010, German outlawed the Internation Humanitarian Aid Organization, due to it funding relief projects in Gaza, which were related to Hamas. Hamas in the Geopolitical Sphere In the 2006 Palestinian elections, Hamas stated in its election manifesto that it was prepared to use “armed resistance to end the occupation”.

    In an eight year period(’01-’08), Hamas launched more than 3,000 Qassam rockets and 2,500 mortar attacks into Israel, killing nearly 400 Israelis, and injuring more than 2,500 in 425 different attacks – Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs

    In 2010, Hamas began a coordinated effort with 13 militant groups to attempt to derail peace talks between Israel and Palestine. This effort included an attack that killed four Israeli settlers, including a pregnant woman. The Hamas militants fired on a moving vehicle, and then closed distance and fired close range into the vehicle seats. Hamas officials rationalized the attacks, stating that Israeli settlers in West Bank are legitimate targets, and “are an army in every sense”. Usage of Women and Children as Human Shields Proximity of Civilians Criticisms of Hamas Censoring Media and Dissent Hamas banned distribution of the pro-Fatah Al-Ayyam newspaper, and closed its offices in the Gaza Strip because it ran a series of articles that criticized members of legislation loyal to Hamas. The Interior Ministry of the Gaza Strip later issued an arrest warrant for the editor.

    Palestinian health officials stated that Hamas had been closing clinics as a punitive measure against doctor strikes. Hamas later confirmed this, because they believed the doctors were inciting dissent.

    In November 2012 a pair of reporters from Gaza were denied exit from Gaza, by Hamas; they subsequently had their passports confiscated.

    Hamas banned public prayer after Fatah supporters began holding public prayer that escalated into protests. Human Rights Abuse The Independent Commission for Human Rights published a report in June of 2011, which stated that during 2010 Palestinian civilians in the Gaza Strip were subjected to unreasonable and arbitrary stops and detentions, arrests, and torture.

    Human Rights Watch presented a fourty-three page list of human rights violations, committed by Hamas. These violations included beatings with metal clubs and rubber hoses, torture of 102 individuals(many of which who were peaceful protesters), and the hanging of alleged Israeli sympathizers and supporters.

  11. Chickenshit, get your facts right.
    These are Palestinian mass murderer prisoners.

    The Palestinians are the ones who have have deliberately targeted civilians time and time again out of nothing from the hatred from Islam

    They have blown up ice cream and pizza parlors full of Israeli children.
    The Terrorstinians have deliberately blown up Israeli civilians going to work and school on buses, Fired rockets at residential neighborhoods, kidnapped and murdered Israeli children, stabbed elderly Holocaust survivors, slit the throats of infants and the list of horrors go on and on.

  12. I’m sure the Christians currently being ethnically cleansed in the Middle East will be delighted to hear that the World Council of Churches is sticking firmly to its priorities. The WCC must not be deflected from its anti-Zionist campaign by mere trifles the slaughter of its co-religionists.