General UK Media

UK media fail to report evidence contradicting presumption of IDF guilt in UN school deaths


On July 25th we posted about the UK media’s rush to judgement after 15 Palestinian civilians were reportedly killed at a UNWRA school in the Gaza city of Beit Hanoun last Thursday. The Guardian, Independent, The Times, The Telegraph, Daily Mail, and Daily Mirror were among the publications which immediately blamed Israel hours after the incident, despite the dearth of evidence at the time.

However, as we noted in our most recent post last night (July 27), an Israeli army inquiry into the fighting at the UN facility in Beit Hanoun found that IDF mortars did NOT play a role in the killing of 16 people in the school courtyard. The army admitted that an errant IDF-fired shell did hit the UN-run school’s yard, but at a time when there were evidently no people in the area – as the video further in this post shows.

More details were provided by IDF spokesman Peter Lerner, who told reporters yesterday that the IDF had returned fired at Hamas targets (which were stationed near the school) on the day in question, and that one of the errant tank mortars landed in the school courtyard, “injuring no one“. Lerner said it was “extremely unlikely” that anyone had been killed by the mortar round that fell in the empty yard. Lerner also noted that it was quite “out of the ordinary” that Palestinian health officials in Gaza did not share the nature of the wounds of the casualties, which may have shed light on the causes of death.

Here’s the IDF video we posted yesterday, which shows the errant tank shell landing in what appears to be a vacant school yard:

Now, let’s look back at the UK news organizations which immediately blamed Israel for the attack on the UN school.

The Guardian, July 25 (One of the lead stories)

guardian

The Guardian, July 25 (Additional story on the attack)

guardian 3

The Guardian, July 24 (Their initial video report on the attack)

guardian 2

(Additional live blog updates on the incident on July 24 at the Guardian similarly judged Israel guilty in the attack, and downplayed evidence of Hamas culpability.)

The Independent, July 24 (One of the lead stories)

indy

The Times

times

The Times, July 24 (An updated article by Catherine Philp of the one seen above included a headline charging Israel with committing a “massacre”)

massacre

Telegraph, July 24

telegraph 1

Telegraph, July 24

telegraph 2

 Daily Mail, July 24

daily mail

Daily Mirror, July 24

mirror

Not one of these UK news sites, at the time of this post, have revised their original articles or published a new story which includes the IDF’s new video evidence. 

Since the new information at the very least calls into question the accuracy of the initial reports, editors should take note of the clause in the Editor’s Code of Practice which demands the following:

A significant inaccuracy, misleading statement or distortion once recognised must be corrected, promptly and with due prominence, and – where appropriate – an apology published. 

106 replies »

  1. Of course the IDF fired the round and murdered 15.
    Of course. The Guardian wrote it so must be true. But your paper seriously underestimated the number of the victims – it is not 15 but 14,245, 32409 of them children, 19753 are pregnant women, and 6724 are elderly sitting in their wheelchairs. You can find the relevant data on any neo-Nazi website.
    Who is going to pay for the thousands of homes and hospitals and schools destroyed by Israel?
    If you are an EU or US citizen and pay taxes (I doubt it) then you will. This is a good investment, most of your money will go to the tunnels and the deep pockets of the leaders of the different Palestinian groups.
    Are they going to allow building materials through their blockade? Dream on.
    Yes Goldberg dream on. The Israelis don’t have suicidal intentions so obviously the entry of building materials into Gaza will be very strictly controlled.

  2. Why would anyone believe an IDF ‘investigation’? They show film of a mortar landing in an empty yard – which proves nothing. They tell us they returned fire from Hamas – well they would, wouldn’t they.

    But the truth of their account in this instance is of secondary importance, just as it was in the case of the journalist’s son killed last time around. For every child for whom the cause of death is uncertain there are scores where we know quite definitely the cause was recklessly fired (and sometimes deliberately targeted) IDF ordnance. That is the real war crime.

    • Sencar would much rather have the world believe in the Protocols rather than the true account of deaths on a battlefield. Gee, color me unimpressed with Sencar’s persistence of dipshittery.

      You know, Sencar, you’ve earned all the scorn and ridicule you receive.

    • By the way, Shitwad, don’t you think it’s weird that all the Palestinian death tolls never mention the number of Hamas fighters killed? It’s like a rocket launching dipshit who dies in the heat of battle gets lumped in the same pot as women and children.

      What a pathetic idiot you are.

      • All the death tolls I see clearly distinguish between civilians and combatants, and all agree that the majority are civilians. Where are you getting your info from – the top of your head perhaps?

        • Hamas doesn`t praise its martyrs, as usual, and the useful idiots instantly get trapped. You are truly an easy prey to Islamist desinformation, as all those who don`t want to get world wise, but stick to their childhood tales of the good and the bad. Reality is ugly, but to ignore that is bad.
          🙂

        • “All the death tolls I see clearly distinguish between civilians and combatants, and all agree that the majority are civilians. ”
          Then that would then make it like pretty much any other war. Since the end of WWII the ratio has been 10 civilians to 1 combatant. Is that what the numbers you claim you’ve seen indicate? And how do you know you can even trust them? Perhaps some skepticism on your part about those numbers is in order. Heavens to Betsy, we all know how you bend over backwards to create an impression of you as a dryly detached observer.

        • “All the death tolls I see clearly distinguish between civilians and combatants, and all agree that the majority are civilians”

          None of us has the true figures for that would be impossible when Hamas lies so much. Many classed as civilian are probably terrorists and the majority of deaths are amongst the 18-21 group. At the moment its about a third terrorists, another third probable terrorists and the last third civilians, a remarkable achievement for an Army fighting an unscrupulous enemy.

      • You can always tell anti-Semitism is getting into full swing by the frenzied libels and the lengths the frenzied mob will go to in order to defend them. Just the mere number of charges made are always a dead giveaway of the unsavoriness of its practitioners.
        And the content? They want to maintain the idea that the IDF killed people at this particular location so they can maintain the fiction that the IDF was targeting children, i.e., something that clearly is not in the IDF’s or Israel’s interest.
        Why do the haters do this? They know it’s the opposite of the truth. They know that genocidal Hamas targets the innocent for death. This makes the inversion necessary to maintain the fiction that Hamas are really freedom fighters in their sick little minds.

    • sencar says,
      “Why would anyone believe an IDF ‘investigation’?”
      sencar, with your track record here, why would anyone believe you?

  3. The mfm won’t change the story as they have already pronounced Israel’s guilt. That is all that matters to tet mfm, to find Israel guilty regardless of the truth.

    Mailman

  4. ” there are scores where we know quite definitely the cause was recklessly fired (and sometimes deliberately targeted) IDF ordnance.”
    How do we “know quite definitely”? Kindly state your particularised instances with reliable sources. You discredit ipso facto any IDF investigation, so I await with interest the sources which you are able to credit implicitly with proving Israeli war crimes.
    Scores implies at least 40 instances. So you need to make a start as it is going to be a long list of particulars, with sources. Even the original, discredited Golstone commission didn’t cite 40 instances.

    • There is no doubt that the vast majority of civilian Gazan deaths are caused by IDF fire. The IDF clearly says as much. The difference between the IDF and a preponderance of world opinion (including UNHCR) is that the former claims that they have no alternative. Unfortunately for the IDF international law condemns targeting of civilian areas on the current scale even when the supposed intent is to attack armed combatants.

      • Unfortunately for the IDF international law condemns targeting of civilian areas on the current scale even when the supposed intent is to attack armed combatants.
        It is really unfortunately but not for the IDF but for the so called “international law”.

          • Peter! Get you penis out of bibi’s bum hole and read this…
            I don’t have a goat for this purpose like you do Duncan. But you are doing this with your own candy assed children too…
            It’s coming! bye bye Israeli economy! yes! hahaha!
            Yes the Israeli economy is on the brink of collapse because the Belgians won’t buy Israli dates…Nd that the foreign investments in Israel tripled in 2013 won’t help either..
            Just ask your 8 year old wife…

      • sencar says: “There is no doubt that the vast majority of civilian Gazan deaths are caused by IDF fire.” Can you imagine someone actually believing that this claim is both true and noteworthy ??

        Unless sencar means something like: the vast majority of Gazan civilians who WERE KILLED IN WARFARE SINCE JULY 8 [= c. during Israel’s ‘Operation Defensive Edge’], his claim is almost certainly not true–even Gazans die of natural causes, in auto accidents, in fights w/ neighbors, etc. etc. But if that be what sencar meant, then it’s hardly noteworthy, since “the vast majority of civilians” who ARE KILLED IN ANY WAR are killed by the enemy, rather than by their own soldiers or by casual passersby. If the opposite were true –“if the vast majority of civilian Gazans” were killed by Hamas–now THAT wd be noteworthy. I believe that Hamas has killed only a minority of Gazan civilians, rather than “the vast majority” of them; the latter is unlikely [even for Hamas].

        sencar might also note that ALL recent Israeli civilian casualties–not merely the vast majority of them–were caused by Hamas [and therefore, that the IDF is less likely than Hamas to kill its own civilians].

        In a pinch, the anti-Israel-and/or- anti-Semite contingent will charge Israel w/ anything that comes to mind. I admit that the IDF may well have killed more Gaza civilians than have been killed by Hamas–at least recently.

  5. You dont really expect an Apology from these Left Wing BIGOTS. They would not recognise the TRUTH IF IT JUMPED UP AND BIT THEM

    • I don’t want to be boring and I will repeat::
      1. The classic/traditional definitions of political left and right are null and void.
      2. One of the evidence of the above allegation is the open and vicious hate of Jews coming from persons declaring themselves either left wing or right wing.

      • It’s just a stupid tactic I’m seeing used. We know that ‘leftist’ is synonymous with ‘idiot’ so they try to label anybody who opposes their point of view as a leftist when political stances have little to do with this conflict. I oppose Israel because I’m Christian, as should every other Christian in the world.

        • I oppose Israel because I’m Christian, as should every other Christian in the world.
          Interesting that this antisemite thinks Christian and antisemite are interchangeable.

        • “I oppose Israel because I’m Christian, as should every other Christian in the world”

          Martin I don’t know whether to laugh or cry at the stupidity of that remark.

          Based on the content of your posts on this site and the fact that you cite David Duke, and seek to defend him by citing his educational qualifications, there are lots of words to describe you Martin, but Christian is definitely not one of them.

        • So your hatred of the Jews stems from what believe to be your own religion’s teachings, like Hamas. How proud you must be, and what a hypocrite you are.

        • I oppose Israel because I’m Christian, as should every other Christian in the world.
          Almost correct but only almost. You oppose Israel because you are a Christian racist, bigot, Jew-hater moron Bigots are bigots be them Christians, left-wing, right-wing, Buddhists, Jews or anything in between. You are one of them – only a bit worse than the field version,

        • Hi there. From your postings it’s 100% apparent you’re a fairly typical troll on this site (the lack of facts and whining kind of give you away) but I feel obligated to give you some advice for being slightly less worthless, as this might make your work viable or at least tolerable in future forums. In no particular order:
          1. Starting off your troll-dom by citing a Nazi who was handed a fake doctorate by a Ukrainian pro-Nazi degree mill and who is a CONVICTED FELON by virtue of taking his fellow Nazis cash and using it to gamble…not a good way to establish your bona fides, unless you wanted those bona fides to be “pathetic troll”.
          2. No one gives a shit about your claimed background, because it A) isn’t provable–if I said I was a former male exotic dancer who studied architecture in Malaysia, would you ever know if it was true or not (BTW, that’s not my background) and B) comes across as a cheap ploy to trade a probably phony backstory as cover for your lack of value in the conversation.
          3. Read up on what the “Left” means. Seriously, it’s apparent you know nothing about that. The claims made by the Left do a better job of burnishing the view that they’re either idiots or bigots than the comments calling notice to that fact. I don’t think this is as much of a Left/Right divide as others do. I also don’t think the point lacks saliency.
          4. Again, outside of a very limited echo chamber, citing David Duke makes you look and sound like both a bigot (which I doubt you care about) and someone of 0% value to the discussion (which you obviously care about because you’re here).
          So good luck, and if you want to get a peak at a future where you’ve stuck to your misfiring guns, read some of Sencar’s “work”.

    • There were 132 children killed between 7th and 21st July, as reported in the Daily Telegraph. Here are some of them:

      Fares Jom’a Al Tarabeen. Baby Boy. Age: 3 months old. Killed 18th July
      Bisan Yasser Abu Jame’. Age: Baby Girl. 6 months old. Killed 20th July
      Dala Nabil Siyam. Baby Girl. Age: 9 months old. Killed 21st July
      Raneen Jawdat Abdel Ghafoor. Baby Girl. Age: 1 year old. Killed 9th July
      Rezeq Ahmad Al Hayik. Baby Boy. Age: 18 months old. Killed 18th July
      Sameeh Na’eem Abu Jarad. Baby Boy. Age: 18 months old. Killed 18th July
      Amal Bahaa’ Al Batsh. Age: Baby Girl. 18 months old. Killed 12th July
      Mohammed Mustafa Malaka. Baby Boy. Age: 2 years old. Killed 9th July
      Mohammed Khalaf Al Nawasra. Baby Boy. Age: 2 years old. Killed 9th July
      Saher Salman Abu Namous. Baby Boy. Age: 2 years old. Killed 11th July
      Hanlya Abdel Rahman Abu Jarad. Baby Girl. Age: 2 years old. Killed 18th July
      Mohammed Hani Al Hallaq. Baby Boy. Age: 2 years old. Killed 20th July
      Samia Ahmed Al Sheikh Khalil. Baby Girl. Age: 2 years old. Killed 20th July
      Rinat Tayseer Abu Jame’. Baby Girl. Age: 2 years old. Killed 20th July
      Nour Yasser Abu Jame’. Baby Girl. Age: 2 years old. Killed 20th July
      Abdallah Yousef Daraji. Baby Boy. Age: 2 years old. Killed 20th July
      Yasmin Mohammed Al Mutawaq. Little Girl. Age: 3 years old. Killed 9th July
      Mu’ayyad Khalid Al A’raq. Little Boy. Age: 3 years old. Killed 13th July
      Dina Adel Isleem. Little Girl. Age: 3 years old. Killed 20th July
      Mohammed Rami Ayyad. Little Boy. Age: 3 years old. Killed 20th July
      Mohammed Ashraf Ayyad. Little Boy. Age: 3 years old. Killed 20th July
      Suheila Bassam Abu Jame’. Little Girl. Age: 3 years old. Killed 20th July

      • And some more:

        Nidal Khalaf Al Nawasra. Little Boy. Age: 4 years old. Killed 9th July
        Abdullah Ramadan Abu Ghazi. Little Boy. Age: 4 years old. Killed 10th July
        Sara Jehad Sheikh Al Eid. Little Girl. Age: 4 years old. Killed 14th July
        Yasmeen Mahmoud Al Astal. Little Girl. Age: 4 years old. Killed 16th July
        Yamin Riyad Al Hamidi. Little Boy. Age: 4 years old. Killed 17th July
        Rahaf Khalil Al Jbour. Little Girl. Age: 4 years old. Killed 18th July
        Qasim Hamed Ulwan. Little Boy. Age: 4 years old. Killed 18th July
        Hamza Usama Al Hayya. Little Boy. Age: 4 years old. Killed 20th July
        Saji Hassan Al Hallaq. Little Boy. Age: 4 years old. Killed 20th July
        ‘Asem Khalil Ammar. Little Boy. Age: 4 years old. Killed 20h July
        Rahaf Akram Abu Jom’a. Little Girl. Age: 4 years old. Killed 20th July
        Tawfeeq Abu Jame’. Little Boy. Age: 4 years old. Killed 20th July
        Batoul Bassam Abu Jame’. Little Girl. Age: 4 years old. Killed 20th July
        Seraj Yasser Abu Jame’. Little Boy. Age: 4 years old. Killed 20th July
        Badr Nabil Siyam. Little Boy. Age: 4 years old. Killed 21st July
        Hamza Ra’ed Thary. Little Boy. Age: 5 years old. Killed 16th July
        Mohammed Ziyad Al Rahl. Little Boy. Age: 5 years old. Killed 19th July
        Dina Omar Azeez. Little Girl. Age: 5 years old. Killed 20th July
        Khalil Usama Al Hayya. Little Boy. Age: 5 years old. Killed 20th July
        Mohammed Ayman Al Sha’ir. Little Boy. Age: 5 years old. Killed 20th July
        Rayan Tayseer Abu Jame’. Little Boy. Age: 5 years old. Killed 20th July

        Abdel Rahman Bassam Khattab. Little Boy. Age: 6 years old. Killed 10th July
        Safa Mustafa Malaka. Little Girl. Age: 6 years old. Killed 12th July
        Ru’ya Mahmoud Al Zweedi. Little Girl. Age: 6 years old. Killed 19th July
        Asama Usama Al Hayya. Little Girl. Age: 6 years old. Killed 20th July
        Kan’an Hassan Al Hallaq. Little Boy. Age: 6 years old. Killed 20th July
        Anas Alaa’ Al Batsh. Little Boy. Age: 7 years old. Killed 12th July
        Marwa Majid Al Batsh. Little Girl. Age: 7 years old. Killed 12th July
        Osama Mahmoud Al Astal. Little Boy. Age: 7 years old. Killed 16th July
        Emad hamed Ulwan. Little Boy. Age: 7 years old. Killed 18th July
        Maysaa Ahmed Abu Jame’. Little Girl. Age: 7 years old. Killed 20th July
        Hosam Abu Qeenas. Little Boy. Age: 7 years old. Killed 20th July
        Ghaidaa’ Nabil Slyam. Little Girl. Age: 7 years old. Killed 21st July

        • And some more:

          Seraj Lyad abdel ‘Al. Little Boy. Age: 8 years old. Killed 8th July
          Afnan Wesam Shuheebar. Little Girl. Age: 8 years old. Killed 17th July
          Waseem Issam Shuheebar. Little Boy. Age: 8 years old. Killed 17th July
          Ahmed Abu Jame’. Little Boy. Age: 8 years old. Killed 20th July
          Basil Salem Kawari’. Little Boy. Age: 9 years old. Killed 8th July
          Meryam Atlyyeh Al ‘Arja. Little Girl. Age: 9 years old. Killed 9th July
          Iman Khalil Ammar. Little Girl. Age: 9 years old. Killed 20th July
          Ahmed Sofyan Al Jammal. Little Boy. Age: 9 years old. Killed 20th July
          Haifaa’ Abu Jame’. Little Girl. Age: 9 years old. Killed 20th July
          Mustafa Nabil Siyam. Little Boy. Age: 9 years old. Killed 21st July

          Mohammed lyad Areef. Little Boy. Age: 10 years old. Killed 9th July
          Nour Marwan Al Najdi. Little Girl. Age: 10 years old. Killed 11th July
          ‘Ahed Attaf Bakr. Little Boy. Age: 10 years old. Killed 16th July
          Zakariya ‘Ahed Bakr. Little Boy. Age: 10 years old. Killed 16th July
          Ismail Mohammed Bakr. Little Boy. Age: 10 years old. Killed 16th July
          Ibrahim Ramadan Abu Daqqa. Little Boy. Age: 10 years old. Killed 16th July
          Sara Mohammed Bostan. Little Girl. Age: 10 years old. Killed 18th July
          Omar Jameel Hamouda. Little Boy. Age: 10 years old. Killed 19th July
          Tala Ahmed Al l’tiwi. Little Girl. Age: 10 years old. Killed 20th July
          Marah Shakir Al Jammal. Little Girl. Age: 10 years old. Killed 20th July
          Fadi Hassan Isleem. Little Boy. Age: 10 years old. Killed 20th July
          Ayyoub Tayseer Abu Jame’. Little Boy. Age: 10 years old. Killed 20th July
          Nujoud Tayseer Abu Jame’. Little Girl. Age: 10 years old. Killed 20th July
          Qasim Jaber Kawari. Little Boy. Age: 11 years old. Killed 8th July
          Mohammed Ramiz Bakr. Little Boy. Age: 11 years old. Killed 16th July
          Jehad Issam Shuheebar. Little Boy. Age: 11 years old. Killed 17th July
          Ahmad Ismail Abu Msallam. Little Boy. Age: 11 years old. Killed 18th July
          Seham Ahmad Zourob. Little Girl. Age: 11 years old. Killed 18th July
          Ali Zlyad Isleem. Little Boy. Age: 11 years old. Killed 20th July
          Hussein Yousef Kawari’. Little Boy. Age: 12 years old. Killed 8th July
          Abdullah hamed Kawari’. Little Boy. Age: 12 years old. Killed 8th July
          Ameer lyad Areef. Little Boy. Age: 12 years old. Killed 9th July
          Fatima Mahmoud Al Haj. Little Girl. Age: 12 years old. Killed 10th July
          Qusai Issam Al Batsh. Little Boy. Age: 12 years old. Killed 12th July
          Nagham Mahmoud Al Zweedi. Little Boy. Age: 12 years old. Killed 19th July
          Marwa Suleiman Al Sirsawi. Little Girl. Age: 12 years old. Killed 20th July
          Abdel Rahman Al Iskafi. Little Boy. Age: 12 years old. Killed 20th July
          Aya Abu Jame’. Little Girl. Age: 12 years old. Killed 20th July
          Fatime Tayseer Abu Jame’. Little Girl. Age: 12 years old. Killed 20th July
          Sha’ban Jamil Alyada. Little Boy. Age: 12 years old. Killed 20th July
          Mohammed Ibrahim Intaiz. Teenage Boy. Age: 13 years old. Killed 7th July
          Mohammed Salem Intaiz. Teenage Boy. Age: 13 years old. Killed 7th July
          Manar Majid Al Batsh. Teenage Girl. Age: 13 years old. Killed 12th July
          Ghada Subhi Ayyad. Teenage Girl. Age: 13 years old. Killed 20th July
          Ibrahim Khalil Ammar. Teenage Boy. Age: 13 years old. Killed 20th July
          Jawdat Abu Jame’. Teenage Boy. Age: 13 years old. Killed 20th July
          Mohammed Ibrahim Al Masri. Teenage Boy. Age: 14 years old. Killed 9th July
          Walaa’ Ismail Abu Msallam. Teenage Girl. Age: 14 years old. Killed 18th July
          Ahlam Mosa Abu Jarad. Teenage Girl. Age: 14 years old. Killed 18th July
          Heba Hamed Al Shiekh Khalil. Teenage Girl. Age: 14 years old. Killed 20th July
          Suleiman Ahmed Abu Jame’. Teenage Boy. Age: 14 years old. Killed 20th July
          Razan Abu Jame’. Teenage Girl. Age: 14 years old. Killed 20th July
          Aseel Ibrahim Al Masri. Teenage Girl. Age: 15 years old. Killed 9th July
          Musa Mohammed Al Astal. Teenage Boy. Age: 15 years old. Killed 9th July
          Hossam Ibrahim An-Najjar. Teenage Boy. Age: 15 years old. Killed 13th July
          Mohammed Ismail Abu Msallam. Teenage Boy. Age: 15 years old. Killed 18th July
          Heba Akram Al Sha’ir. Teenage Girl. Age: 15 years old. Killed 20th July
          Mohammed Rajaa’ Handam. Teenage Boy. Age: 15 years old. Killed 20th July
          Ahmed Ayman Siyam. Teenage Boy. Age: 15 years old. Killed 21st July
          Ahmad Nae’l Mahdi. Teenage Boy. Age: 16 years old. Killed 8th July
          Mahmoud Anwar Abu Shabab. Teenage Boy. Age: 16 years old. Killed 19th July
          Dina Rushdi Hamada. Teenage Girl. Age: 16 years old. Killed 20th July
          Shadi Ziyad Isleem. Teenage Boy. Age: 16 years old. Killed 20th July
          Abdallah Abu Hjayyir. Teenage Boy. Age: 16 years old. Killed 21st July
          Fatima Ahmad Al Arja. Teenage Girl. Age: 16 years old. Killed 21st July
          Ammar Ahmad Jodeh. Teenage Boy. Age: 17 years old. Killed 8th July
          Sulaiman Saleem Al Astal. Teenage Boy. Age: 17 years old. Killed 9th July
          Saad Mahmoud Al Haj. Teenage Boy. Age: 17 years old. Killed 10th July
          Anas Yousef Qandeel. Teenage Boy. Age: 17 years old. Killed 11th July
          Mohammed Issam Al Batsh. Teenage Boy. Age: 17 years old. Killed 12th July
          Ziyad Maher An Najjar. Teenage Boy. Age: 17 years old. Killed 14th July
          Saar Na’eem Abu Jarad. Teenage Girl. Age: 17 years old. Killed 18th July
          Omar Eed Al Mahmoun. Teenage Boy. Age: 17 years old. Killed 18th July
          Mohammed Rafeeq Al Rahl. Teenage Boy. Age: 17 years old. Killed 19th July
          Aya Bahjat Abu Sultan. Teenage Girl. Age: 17 years old. Killed 20th July
          Anas Mahmoud Mu’ammar. Teenage Boy. Age: 17 years old. Killed 20th July
          Ameen Ayman Siyam. Teenage Boy. Age: 17 years old. Killed 21st July

      • And how many of these kids were convinced by the Man in the Bunny Suit that this is the rightful, justifiable way for them to die in their lives?

        Want to read the list of children murdered during the Holocaust? It’s going to be real long, Champ. At least 1000 times with what you’ve got so far. So if you want to stomach it.

        It bears repeating to a brain dead buffoon such as you: These kids were provided the opportunity to leave their homes over a 5-day period. Whereas in WWII, the kids who died were worked to death.

          • You posted the names here for a reason. You wanted to get a reaction. You got a reaction, which you belittled.

            That’s because you don’t know how to debate. You only know how to assign blame, and your morals are deeply lacking to be taken seriously enough in that avenue.

            Just sayin’. If you want to be taken seriously, don’t wash your body with other people’s spilled blood.

            • “That’s because you don’t know how to debate.”

              You think I need lessons in debating from someone who calls people who disagrees with him “asshole”, “shithole”, “brain dead buffoon” and “prick”? And that’s just on this page. Priceless.

                • Please show me where I said that Israel is a genocidal apartheid state killing kids. That’s right, you can’t. It’s just in your mind.

                • Please tell me where I called you an Asshat (or similar said insult) before thereby silencing any ability of you to debate? After all, wasn’t that your reason for describing my response as Whataboutery even though I approached your point head on before bringing in the example?

                  I think we’re done here.

                • “Koufaxmitzvah, look at your reply to dear Martinus Dorell”

                  How could you be unkind to ‘dear Martinus Dorell’?
                  Is it because he posts lies on this site?
                  Is it because he likes the videos of David Duke?
                  Is it because he likes ‘Brother Nutjob’ a lunatic who dresses like a cross between an Orthodox priest and CoCo the Clown?

                  How could you koufaxmitzvah?

                • Poor little dongie, never recovered from that brutale attack of Saville. Please leave your adress we will check up how to help you

  6. first you all delegitimize the word antisemitism
    Now israel deligitimes the word terrorism (calling kerry’s peace efforts ‘strategic terrorism)

    The only two words that are used to justify israel’s legitimacy – gone!

    Thankyou. Much obliged.

    • An antisemite and his aryan belief in how the world functions.
      Well, thanks for expressing your hopes that you can proclaim your antisemitism and your terroristic goals with impunity, but no, you still can`t. That`s why you use a nick, dumbwit.

  7. Good Day !!!!!

    I am Hwa Jurong, a Reputable, Legitimate & an accredited money
    Lender. I loan money out to individuals in need of financial assistance.
    Do you have a bad credit or are you in need of money to pay bills?
    i want to use this medium to inform you that i render reliable beneficiary
    assistance as I’ll be glad to offer you a loan at 2% interest rate to
    reliable individuals.

    Services Rendered include:
    *Refinance
    *Home Improvement
    *Inventor Loans
    *Auto Loans
    *Debt Consolidation
    *Horse Loans
    *Line of Credit
    *Second Mortgage
    *Business Loans
    *Personal Loans
    *International Loans.
    Please write back if interested.
    Upon Response, you’ll be mailed a Loan application form to fill. (No social
    security and no credit check, 100% Guaranteed!) I Look forward permitting me to
    be of service to you. You can contact me via e-mail: hwa_jurong@yahoo.com.sg , hwajurong12@gmail.com , contact@hwa-jurong.com
    Yours Sincerely,

    Hwa Jurong(MD).