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Times of London embraces the ‘Israeli root cause’ explanation for Palestinian violence


The implicit narrative advanced by Gregg Carlstrom in a Times of London article about Israel’s recent demolition of a terrorist’s home is one often embraced in the UK media: that the manner in which Israel responds to terror leads Palestinians to carry out additional deadly attacks against Jews.  

Here’s the headline of his article (Israeli punishment to end violence backfires, Nov. 2):

times of londn headline

Carlstrom suggests that the decision by a Palestinian named Alaa Abu Jamal to engage in the car ramming and hacking to death last month of a religious Jew in Jerusalem was triggered by the demolition, by Israeli authorities, of his cousin’s home for his part in a deadly attack on Jewish worshippers at a synagogue in Har Nof last year.

Here are the relevant passages from Carlstrom’s report:

Alaa Abu Jamal’s relatives busied themselves with screwdrivers, removing furniture and pulling clocks off the wall in a home in east Jerusalem that will soon be blown to rubble.

Three weeks earlier, Alaa had rammed his car into a group of people waiting at a nearby bus stop and then leapt out and attacked them with a meat cleaver, killing one, a rabbi, and wounding another before his rampage was ended by a security guard who shot and wounded him.

The Israeli army decided nine days later to demolish his house, a controversial collective punishment intended as a deterrent….

This is not an unfamiliar event in Jebel al-Mukaber, an impoverished warren of grim concrete homes. Last year Alaa’s cousin, Ghassan, and another relative attacked a synagogue, killing four worshippers [sic] and a policeman with guns and knives. Both were shot dead when police reinforcements arrived.

The government decided soon after to demolish Ghassan’s home, but the order was not carried out until October 6, part of Israel’s initial response to a growing number of attacks in recent weeks.

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Israel halted home demolitions in 2005, after an army study found that they had little deterrent value, but the practice was reintroduced last winter in response to a spate of hit-and-run attacks by Palestinians. 

Mark Regev, a spokesman for the Israeli prime minister, defends the practice, calling it one of the only tools available to stop “someone who is willing to kill themselves in order to get others”.

The case of the Abu Jamal family, however, offers a striking counterpoint. Freshly hung banners inside Ghassan’s ruined home extol the synagogue attackers as martyrs. Alaa himself lived a little way up the hill, and stood together with the family during the early morning demolition of Ghassan’s home.

“His cousin saw the demolition, and a week later he carried out his own attack,” said Dalia Kerstein, the director of HaMoked, a local charity that provides legal representation to Palestinians facing demolitions. “It’s not even a theoretical situation. I don’t see any deterrence here.”

Carlstrom’s theory – that Israel’s home demolition to punish Alaa Abu Jamal’s cousin backfired, and indeed incited Abu Jamal to engage in antisemitic violence of his own – seems, however, to be undermined by evidence that he clearly held radical pro-terror views before the demolition

In an interview with Ynet in November 2014, Abu Jamal praised the deadly attack on synagogue worshippers by his cousin as “something normal which could be expected from anyone who is brave and has a feeling of belonging to his people and Islam.” Abu Jamal added: “People reacted with cries of joy when we received word of their death. People here handed out sweets to guests who came to visit us, and it was a great celebration for our martyrs.”

So, according to Abu Jamal, the murder, by Palestinians, of innocent Jewish civilians is “something normal” and indeed worthy of celebration.

Of course, Carlstrom is far from alone in ignoring the ideological and moral components of Palestinian terrorism. As Matti Friedman, former AP Jerusalem correspondent, argued in his expose on the media’s failure to fairly cover the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, “if you follow mainstream coverage, you will find nearly no real analysis of Palestinian society or ideologies, [or] profiles of armed Palestinian groups”.

The reason why such journalists always look for an Israeli root cause when explaining such acts of terror – whether it’s the settlements, “threats” to al-Aqsa, hopelessness, etc. – is that they immediately discount any explanation (no matter how grounded in empirical data) suggesting that attacks have a racist (antisemitic) motive – an ideological orientation which has fed anti-Jewish violence in the region for well over a century.

As blogger David Collier argued in his viral post published on these pages on the history of Arab terrorism:

Before the partition, before Israel, before the settlements, before the ‘occupation’, before the refugees, before Sharon walked onto Temple Mount, before the ‘wall’, before immigration, before Balfour and before even Zionism itself. In the beginning there was an Arab with a knife and he murdered a Jew, simply because he was a Jew.

It is an absurd logic that attempts to blame [the Zionist state] for creating violence against Jews when Modern Zionism *only came about* because of relentless violence against Jews; both in Europe and the Middle East

Sadly, this absurd logic – in one form or the other – continues to be embraced by the opinion elite and foreign journalists covering the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

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          • “And we know it’s because Israel bashers are the most racist pieces of sh*t on the planet.”

            That’ll be the same ISRAEL that wishes to change from ISRAEL to ‘The Jewish State’ …. not the current Jewish, Muslim, Christian etc state that ISRAEL is today … and you have the stupidity to label others racist …. fool!

            • Why shouldn’t Israel be a Jewish state?

              There are 57 Muslim states. If that’s OK with you, then one Jewish state should be as well.

              Meanwhile the uncontrolled influx of Muslim refugees seems to be part of the plot to Islamize Eurabia.

              Any comments on the Apartheid city of Mecca? Infidels not allowed to set foot in Mecca.

              How many churches are in Saudi Arabia? 100, 10, 1, NONE?

                • When Muslims can’t get along with fellow Muslims (see Syria, Iraq, Fascist Iran, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon), how can anyone expect Muslims to get along with NON-Muslims?

                • “so called ‘Jews’ left there to set up home in Arab land” – Yes, you definitely a problem with Jews. As though we didn’t know that all along.
                  And, of course, a problem with history, facts and sanity.

                • Whaaaaa…. Pooooor MFer…… Crying away about how the Jews are so racially inspired, allthewhile calling for the White Europeans (a type which Jews solely seem to be, amiright?) to stay in their own pockets of the world.

                  You’re a sad sack of dipshittery. What a great way to end my week…. A conversation with a real MFer. He thinks he’s tough. He thinks he’s smart. But he’s a big, fat, stupid joke. Aye carumba!

                    • You might conceal your physical blemishes but you do lay bare your ignorance and prejudices to us all.

                    • “Fat? I’m not American!”

                      Farmer what you are is,
                      A Liar,
                      A Racist,
                      A Piece of Shit.

                      If you want my definition of ‘racist’ I use the definition used by the CPS.

                      Now be a good sockpuppet and toddle off and ask your handlers to write out your next reply for you.

                    • Farmer, as usual from you an irrelevant ‘reply’.

                      Your usual dismal attempt at diversion is really substandard, and wearing very thin.

                      Is it you that is intellectually challenged, or is it your handler?

                    • My Nurse has told me to tell you that I shouldn’t take any notice of your jibes …. she says I should take comfort in the fact that I’m not emotionally challenged …. she thinks Israelis are. I think they’re just easily led.🙂

                    • > Prejudices? Are Arabs and Jews treat exactly the same in the West Bank, Marge?

                      Are Muslims and Infidels treated exactly the same in Mecca?

                      Are Muslims and Infidel treated exactly the same in Saudi Arabia?

                      Are Muslims and Infidels treated exactly the same in Eurabia?

                      Do Muslims treat Infidels with respect in Eurabia (consider the rape gangs, the bombing of London transport on 7/7/05, the beheading of Lee Rigby)?

                    • The Oslo Agreement specified that Palestinians in the west bank were to be subject to Jordanian/Palestinian law while Israelis, whether Jews Moslem, Christian etc,are governed by Israeli law. Therefore the answer is ‘obviously not’ but not for the reasons you suggest.

                    • Farmer ask your Nurse if there is an idiot on your Ward called ‘Berchmans’.
                      His delusion was that he was a wit, and humourist.

                    • Berchmans? … No.

                      We had 2 Napoleons though! ….. and a really strange one with sides who stood at the wall rocking back and forwards while mumbling to himself ..he’d get really upset if the female nurses approached him.

                    • MF’er, In which of the following countries are Muslims and Infidels treated equally?

                      – Indonesia
                      – Pakistan
                      – Bangladesh
                      – Nigeria
                      – Egypt
                      – Turkey
                      – Iran
                      – Sudan
                      – Algeria
                      – Afghanistan
                      – Morocco
                      – Iraq
                      – Malaysia
                      – Saudi Arabia
                      – Yemen
                      – Syria
                      – Somalia
                      – Libya
                      – Jordan
                      – United Arab Emirates
                      – Kuwait
                      – Mauritania
                      – Oman
                      – Kosovo
                      – Bahrain
                      – Qatar
                      – Djibouti
                      – Brunei

                    • Considering the invasion of Eurabia by “refugees”, soon the UK will be added to that list of Muslim majority nations that treat Infidels like crap.

                      Happy Eternal Nakba!.

                    • Now you have the invasion of the UK and Eurabia by “refugees” who demand that you be Sharia Law compliant.

                    • But you’ll be getting Sharia Law in the United Kaliphate – like it or not. That’s the way Moohammed and his minions want it.

                      Maybe the BBC will give you tips on how to behave with your new masters, many of whom are named some variant of Moohammed.

            • You know so much about other people, MFer. Then again, you’re just another troll. You’re not here to do anything more than try, try, try oh-so hard to piss Zionists off. You think we give a shit about you….. All I did was show how simpleminded you are, and to scratch that inner soul of soot and shit that you’re so proud to carry around. You’re a nothing. You’re a joke.

              Don’t forget that.

        • ‘Fascism’ applies to the actions and charters of Hamass, Hezbullah, Al Qada, Taliban, Boko Haram, ISIS, Muslim Brotherhood, Fascist Iran, PLO, Fatah, Grand Mufti.

          Question is why do people who claim to be ‘progressive’ support the above mentioned reactionary, regressive Islamist thugs?

          Where are the progressives demonstrating against ISIS, which quickly claimed responsibility for the bombing of Metrojet?

  1. The “root cause” explanations has additional flaws:
    – In the West, the “root cause” theories of violence were also termed “there’s no such thing as a bad boy” and have existed since they were mocked in “West Side Story”. So why do the “root cause” proponents apply the theory only to violence by those of third-world origin (or those “of colour”) but never to the self-defensive, calibrated reactions of (say) Israel?
    – The “root cause” theory also denies to civilised society the right to defend itself. Would the Times have had Britain surrender to Nazi Germany to alleviate the “root causes” of German violence?

        • “Even a UK dreg is more moral than an Jewish-Israeli!”

          Farmer the use of such gross generalisations not only exhibits your inability to discuss in a logical and meaningful fashion, it also clearly demonstrates your lack of intelligence and sickening anti-Semitic racism!

          Now vanish back into the sewer you slithered out of, the nauseating stench from your foul post is disgusting.

          • “exhibits your inability to discuss in a logical and meaningful fashion” …. I could almost be a Jewish-Israeli with that property …. but I haven’t voted in those who consistently flout International law.

            • You mean you’re a unique troll? You’re not the same loser floundering on here with the stupidest comments known to man. And stupid not just by way of not verifiable, as in, not real; but stupid as in asinine, pathetic, so not very funny, etc and so forth?

              How exciting. Welcome, Mister Michael Farmer, quite possibly a Jewish man, but most definitely a man with a pea sized brain. How nice of you to join us.

  2. Backfires?

    These fucking assclowns consider the Middle East situation like it’s Mad Magazine and Spy vs Spy.

    Grow the fuck up, Western Journos. If you haven’t figured it out, a group of us are blaming YOU for the murders of Israelis.

    Yes…. Humanity. What a great race.

    • Yes, I believe it is considered a war crime. But Israel doesn’t collectively punish. They demolish the residence of the actual PERPETRATOR. Not of his neighbors. Not of his community. The house HE has lived in. Doesn’t matter who else lives there- it is HIS house.

      Under what logic is this “collective” punishment?

      • Israel is NOT a sharia-law-abiding country. Your failed state, being overrun by “refugees ” who are hell bent on forcing your to be sharia law compliant, serves as a warning to civilized nations of the dangers of appeasement.

        • Nor is Israel an International Law abiding country, ‘Gerald’.

          I’m sure the Palestinians are living through the dangers of the world having appeased Israel’s thuggish path for many decades now.

          • What’s more thuggish than stoning girls to death over “family honor”, hanging gay teens, throwing opponents off roofs, dragging opponents behind motorcycles through the streets of Gaza, running over British soldiers and cutting their throats, demanding that men, women and children act as human shields by standing by weapons caches and rocket launchers, bombing passenger planes like Pan Am 103 and Metrojet?

    • Yes, I believe it is considered a war crime. But Israel doesn’t collectively punish. They demolish the residence of the actual PERPETRATOR. Not of his neighbors. Not of his community. The house HE has lived in. Doesn’t matter who else lives there- it is HIS house.

      Under what logic is this “collective” punishment?

      • If he is only a resident in the house,not the owner then it is collective punishment. God forbid that a tenant in a high rise tenament is accused of terrorism.

        That the Israeli army decided nine days later to demolish his house would indicate that the demolition was not a judgement made by the court against him but by the vindictive Israeli army. Therefore collective punishment. Why are Israeli words always so dishonest, so snake-tongued …. so illogical in the real world?

        • “If he is only a resident in the house,not the owner then it is collective punishment.”:

          That is both morally and legally incorrect. Check the law regarding collective punishment, including in your own country.

          “God forbid that a tenant in a high rise tenament is accused of terrorism.”:

          They do not demolish high rises for pete’s sake, and you know it.

          “That the Israeli army decided nine days later to demolish his house would indicate that the demolition was not a judgement made by the court against him but by the vindictive Israeli army.”:

          Complete ignorance. It is not the ARMY who decides anything but the government, and in fact the Israeli supreme court often DOES disallow the demolition if they find it does constitute collective punishment. So it is indeed under the law.

          “Why are Israeli words always so snake-tongued ”

          Showing your TRUE COLORS with that uncoincidental choice of words.

          • I would reply that no-one has a right to occupy the Palestinians and build homes on their land while they have a home of their own …. Israel.

            You will remember, but may deny, that it was Israel that walked away from the latest ‘peace talks’ because Abbas had approached the ICC to have a legal solution(not a violent one) to the question of occupation and other war crimes.

            I agree that Palestinians are themselves breaking International laws by attacking civilians in the West Bank and firing rockets from Gaza.

            Surel the ICC is a body that could rule on such matters. Unfortunately ANY body that critices ANY Israeli action is labelled as ‘anti-semitic’, ‘jew-hating’ and other such scripted/stock nonsense.

            • ” it was Israel that walked away from the latest ‘peace talks’ ” – this is a lie.
              “occupation and other war crimes” – you have no clue what these words mean.
              “Surel the ICC is a body that could rule on such matters” – what nonsense.
              “ANY body that critices ANY Israeli action is labelled as ‘anti-semitic’, ‘jew-hating’ and other such scripted/stock nonsense” – another lie.

              • John, a lie is a deliberate untruth.

                I believe the statements that I have made to be correct. You may present me with facts that show I am not correct if they are available to you

                • Just one, as you do not merit more: Israel carried on with the talks until their pre-specified end date. Hence, it couldn’t have ‘walked away’.
                  But I am willing to concede that you may have posted it due to being utterly ignorant and stupid.

                  • John, I must apologise for the reason that I quoted for Israel’s walking away from peace talks. It was for the reason given below …. be my guest and confirm to yourself the reason and the fact that they indeed DID walk away..

                    “Israel suspends peace talks over Palestinian unity deal” T.O.I. 24th April 2014. (http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-suspends-peace-talks-because-of-palestinian-unity-deal/)

                    You replied ..
                    “occupation and other war crimes” – you have no clue what these words mean.
                    “Surel the ICC is a body that could rule on such matters” – what nonsense.
                    “ANY body that critices ANY Israeli action is labelled as ‘anti-semitic’, ‘jew-hating’ and other such scripted/stock nonsense” – another lie.

                    Perhaps I’m wrong on one of my other points …. as I said, I don’t believe I am, therefore not lies. You needn’t apologise, people do make mistakes.

                    • Farmer, you are;

                      1) a Liar,
                      2) a Racist,
                      3) a piece of Shit.

                      If you have any facts to show that the above three are not correct, you may present them.

                    • Here in the UK we have have refreshing saying(won’t be applicable to Arabs in the Middle East of course) That an accused is innocent until proven guilty.

                      You may interpret that as ‘In the West Bank, Gaza and Israel an accused is innocent until proven to not be an Israeli’.

                    • Farmer, the evidence in support of all three points I have listed are clearly demonstrated by the content of your posts.

                      Now, once again, do you have any facts to show that any of the three points on my list are not correct?

                    • Farmer, the evidence in support of all three points I have listed are clearly demonstrated by the content of your posts.

                      Now, once again, do you have any facts to show that any of the three points on my list are not correct?

                      Yes,Gerald, I do.

                    • “Israel suspends peace talks over Palestinian unity deal” – because Abbas breached a material agreed condition during the talks (another poster has already educated you on that one). Ergo, he walked away, and Israel simply drew the appropriate conclusion and declined to waste any more time.
                      In actual fact, therefore, Israel didn’t ‘walk away’. Obergruppenfuehrer Abbas did.

                    • Farmer, until such time as you present these ‘facts’ you now claim to have.
                      You stand condemned, by your own posts, as
                      a Liar,
                      a Racist, and
                      a Piece of Shit.

                    • 1) I contend than Menachem Begin, later exalted to leadership of the glorious state of Israel, was head of the Irgun terrorist militia at the time it indulged in the Deir Yassim massacre. If I was a liar I would not offer this truth.

                      2) I condemn Israel’s illegality and it’s brutality I do not condemn anyone for being a Jew.

                      3) I didn’t vote Likud.

                    • Farmer your ‘replies’ are getting increasingly bizarre.

                      Your ‘replies’, as are your posts, not only irrelevant nonsense but also not in the slightest persuasive.

                      There is a saying in the UK,
                      “Here today, Nowhere tomorrow”

                      Farmer, for you it is tomorrow already!
                      You are Nowhere, except in your own tiny little World in an obviously tiny little mind.

                    • MF, In 1948, just 3 years after the end of WW2 and the Holocaust, the newly declared State of Israel was attacked by 5 Arab armies, NONE of which was the army of an existing “Palestine”.

                      So much for your claims of an existing “Palestine”.

                      Jews were in the land of Israel BEFORE mohammed or any muslim came on the scene.

                    • Your point being?

                      Plans were hatched as early as ’37 to drive as many Arabs as possible from the region to ensure a sizeable Jewish majority in any forthcoming state. Ben Gurion himself said that once they had a foothold that by strength and military means they could expand and take the entire region.
                      These plans were carried out as early as ’47 by Jewish terrorist militia with the likes of terrorists Menachem Begin and Ishtak Shamir. They destroyed over 500 Arab villages, drove out over 750,000 Palestinians and massacred thousands. Yes, the other Arabs did attempt to defeat the Jews but had not the weapons nor the training that the Jews had received in the British Army.

                      SOME Jews were in the land before M. SOME Arabs were in the land before M.

                      Before Jews were in the land others lived there but were driven out by the ‘Jews’.

                    • Because I believe that which you post is incorrect …. as you do in return. Shouldn’t we espouse that which we think to be true and counter that which we believe to be not true?

                    • MF, 600,000 Arabs left Israel under the understanding that the 5 attacking Arab armies (NONE of which was the army of an existing Palestine) would have free reign to mercilessly slaughter anyone they encountered because they would have been Jews..

                      800,000 Jews fled for their lives from Arab countries like Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, where they had lived for millennia.

                      It’s a wash. Just compensation should be given to both Arabs and Jews for their lost property.

                    • This “Nakba” is a nickname for the FAILURE of 5 attacking Arab armies (NONE of which was an army of an existing Palestine”) to continue the work of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalems ally, socialist hitler,

                      Happy Eternal Nakba! May all their Jihads turn into personal Nakba.

                    • I think that you are misinformed … the Catastrophe was not the defeat of the 5 armies but the ethnic cleansing by expulsion of the over 750,000 Arabs starting in ’47 and the destruction of the Arab villages by Jewish terrorist militia.

                    • Your Nakba was as much of a catastrophe as national socialist Germany surrendering, unconditionally to the US, UK and SU.

                      Here is a youtube video of Socialist Hitler meeting with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem in 1941.

                      Happy Eternal Nakba!

            • It was the PA that blackmailed Israel into releasing prisoners who had murdered Israelis in cold blood as a condition for negotiations in place of going to the ICC. As the final batch was about to be released they approached the ICC anyway, constructively abandoning the peace negotiations.

              Israel and the USA have chosen not to be members of the ICC and so are not subject to their rulings.

              Your final comment shows a lack of respect and seriousness tinging whatever you write with prejudice.

              • “Israel and the USA have chosen not to be members of the ICC and so are not subject to their rulings.” Exactly! But they are BOTH signatories to the Geneva Conventions. The USA sits on it’s hand unless a veto is requested and allows Israel to violate those same conventions on a regular basis. Were these two countries to be members of the ICC we could not therefore expect them to be true to it’s ideals. Hardly countries to be respected.

                When does observation of Israel’s illogical reasoning for their actions and the expectation that it’s utterings are irrelevant to the facts become prejudice?

          • “They do not demolish high rises for pete’s sake, and you know it.” …. happened many times in Gaza!
            ————–
            “Why are Israeli words always so snake-tongued ”

            Showing your TRUE COLORS with that uncoincidental choice of words.
            —————

            Describing labelling of goods with their correct place of origin as ‘a boycott’ is such an example …. I know it isn’t, she knows it isn’t and you may have your own scripted ‘thoughts’..

            • A high rise was bombed in gaza for being a weapons cache and hamas headquarters. It was not demolished as punishment. What utter ignorance!!!

                • You haven’t been to Gaza. That’s obvious. The destruction is confined to the areas that were undermined by attack tunnels Sejaiya and Rafah. Don’t tell obvious lies to people who live with the facts daily.

                    • Of course you do. You trust anyone who tells you that the Jews are evil. And you don’t change your mind when presented with solid evidence to the contrary.
                      And you call others ‘rabid’ and ‘swivel-eyed’.
                      Comedy gold.

                    • I haven’t said Jews are evil. I believe that Israel’s actions are evil. Should you wish to map Israel’s action to Jews’ actions that is your own doing.

                      Which ‘solid evidence’? Anything any of us have are perceptions, which may be true … or not true.

                    • I believe that Al Qada, ISIS, Taliban, Boko Haram, Fascist Iran, Al Nusra, Hamass, Hezbullah actions are evil.

                      I believe that bombing passenger planes like Pan Am 103 and Metrojet is evil.

                    • Which proves yet again that your grasp of rational analysis, historical reading, comparison of evidence and sane conclusions is non-existent.
                      You believe any lie you read in Mondoweiss. That’s all that we need to know.
                      Oh, and putting ‘Jews’ in scare quotes as you did earlier proves that it’s Jews you have a problem with, not Israel.
                      Thank you for making it so easy. Like taking sweets from a baby. Albeit a very nasty baby.

                    • Never read Mondo ….

                      Put Jews in apostrophes to include religious, lifestyle, bloodline ones. Modern day white Jews from Europe being a case in point.

                      “taking sweets from a baby” …. or perhaps land from virtually unarmed Palestinians?

                • The percentage of non-combatants killed in Gaza out of total casualties has been lower than every other modern conflict, including Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, etc.

                  It’s Hamas who refused a ceasefire multiple times. What would you have Israel do? Lay down their arms and accept constant rocket attacks as a way of life? I guess you would.

                  • “The percentage of non-combatants killed in Gaza out of total casualties has been lower than every other modern conflict, including Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, etc.”

                    Holier than ISIS? Very commendable!

                    Ceasefire? It was a cessation of tank and rocket strikes while the IDF continued their ‘business’.

                    ” Lay down their arms and accept constant rocket attacks as a way of life?”

                    Must the Palestinians lay down their arms and accept occupation, settlements and extrajudicial killings as a way of life?

  3. Oh, stop, please. Punishment sends a message that Israel will not tolerate that behavior, and that message is important. We all know that Arabs don’t need much incitement to commit heinous crimes; it’s what they do; it’s what they’ve done; it’s historically what they’ve always done to Jews. If they can’t have it all their way, they commit murder. They don’t want to negotiate. They want it their way–no Jewish rule; no Jewish homeland; no Jews if possible. Punishment is required, and those who commit murder must be expelled.

    • “Punishment sends a message that Israel will not tolerate that behavior”

      Punishment that violates International law. The stabbings(not to be condoned against civilians) also send a message that the Palestinians will not tolerate the illegal occupation of their land. Haven’t they also a right to send that message?

      • ” Haven’t they also a right to send that message?”

        No. nobody has the right to stab anyone. As we speak their own elected PM Abbas REFUSES to negotiate with Israel a peace treaty despite being offered on a weekly basis.

        You seem awfully quite about the many international laws the PALESTINIANS are breaking, aren’t you? strange.

            • The High Court of Justice in Israel, with a variety of different justices sitting, has repeatedly stated for more than four decades that Israel’s presence in the West Bank is in violation of international law.

                • I don’t care who says this, it’s still ignorant bollocks (just as the ICC calling the Green Line an ‘international border’ is ignorant bollocks).
                  From the LoN and through the UN charter and all UN resolutions, there is no other high contracting party with the slightest legal claim to J&S. Hence Israel’s presence there is entirely legal. In fact, it is supported specifically by (e.g.) UNSC 181 and the Oslo Accords, signed by Obersturmbannfuehrer Arafat the Egyptian.

      • Islamofascist Terrorism violates International Law.

        Israel, like all other civilized countries, has the Right to Resist Islamofascism, Terrorism, Jihad, which is being waged against people all over the world.

        You might have noticed the Checkpoints at airports, a necessity to prevent another 9/11 terrorist attack.