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Happy Pesach from UK Media Watch!


Pesach is the oldest and most transformative story of hope ever told. It tells of how an otherwise undistinguished group of slaves found their way to freedom from the greatest and longest-lived empire of their time, indeed of any time. It tells the revolutionary story of how the supreme Power intervened in history to liberate the supremely powerless. It is a story of the defeat of probability by the force of possibility. It defines what it is to be a Jew: a living symbol of hope. – Rabbi Jonathan Sacks

We’d like to wish all of our readers a happy Pesach! Chag Sameach!

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First Matzah in Israel, 1949 (Courtesy of the Jewish Agency)

 

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  1. @Adam Levick –

    In two other UK Media Watch threads (and perhaps more) the BTL contributor “Edward” has posted explicit incitements to harass a fellow-contributor at his home.

    In the thread @ https://ukmediawatch.org/2016/04/18/reminder-to-times-of-london-jews-can-certainly-be-antisemitic/ “Edward” reveals his opponent’s address, phone number, and other contact details, while @ https://ukmediawatch.org/2016/04/21/guardian-report-on-nus-election-omits-malia-bouattias-zionist-led-media-comment/ he follows this up with the taunt, “We already have your address …”

    I strongly urge you to delete these posts and – preferably – warn “Edward” that any repeat of such inflammatory posting will be result in his being barred from commenting on your website.

    Thanks in anticipation (and wishing you a Happy Pesach too!)

    Miranda

    • MiranDUH, Migraines info is PUBLIC INFORMATION. Like a telephone book.

      And may YOU wicked MiranDUH drown with Pharaohs army too.

      • Anyone wanting to contact him could therefore have looked it up for themselves and didn’t need your “help”. What was your MOTIVE, Edward?

        I maintain you had just one aim – and that was to spur a direct harassment campaign. So my message to Adam stands, and I again urge him to take prompt action on it.

        • MiranDUH, Not only are your words and thoughts Ugly, your inner ugliness has affected your external appearance.

      • I agree. Posting personal information, even if publicly available should be deleted. I’ve had 2 cases of death threats aimed at me. In both cases it was unlikely that they personally would have been able to carry it out because of distance, but the possibility of a like minded individual nearby picking it up has crossed my mind. The safety of my family does come first. It’s a fairly common policy on message boards to prohibit the publication of personal data by persons other than the subject themselves, and newspapers will not publish the home address of politicians or other people in the news for that reason. The possibility of others committing harassment , stalking or acts of violence at that person’s place of residence is the moral basis for this concern. It is a reasonable limit on free speech for that reason.

        There’s also a legal justification. While not actually law it is often cited in legal decisions based on a position paper “The Right to Privacy” by US Justices Brandeis and Warren. Their view is such publication is also a violation of free speech in as much as it is compelled speech. The subject’s right to not speak is as sacrosanct as the right to speak, and if the subject would not utter such private information in a given forum he or she cannot be compelled to do so by another claiming to be speaking for them.

        “The common law secures to each individual the right of determining, ordinarily, to what extent his thoughts, sentiments, and emotions shall be communicated to others. Under our system of government, he can never be compelled to express them (except when upon the witness stand); and even if he has chosen to give them expression, he generally retains the power to fix the limits of the publicity which shall be given them. The existence of this right does not depend upon the particular method of expression adopted.”

        http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/privacy/Privacy_brand_warr2.html

    • @Edward –

      The only reason I can suppose that you, by contrast, keep your identity so cravenly HIDDEN is that your personal life, physical appearance and soul are so ugly that even the slightest glimpse would arouse universal disgust.

      • MiranDUH, Will your narcissism ever be satiated?

        You don’t need a burqa, an extra large Hefty garbage bag should do.

    • I suggest to ban Migraine and Bellamy immediately – they are openly inciting the slaughter of every last Israelis.
      But rethinking my suggestion – I propose to let them post together with Basner – their contributions are the best demonstration of the characteristics of their kind of fake warriors for Palestinian rights, their malevolent impotent hate of Israel, their moral insanity and intellectual failures.

      • Peter, I agree with you about Migraine, he is an antisemite. He is here to bait Jews and flaunt his misplaced moral superiority. His bigotry is so visceral there is no way of engaging in any meaningful debate over his worldview which is obsessed with ‘fascist’ Israel and ‘neoZionist’ (what ever that means) phantoms.

        This is not about closing down debate, there is nothing to debate with rabid, hate-filled bigots like that. His place is at the Stormfront or whatever other sanctimonious SWP rag that uses the same antisemtic tropes.

        His presence (I’m sure the Jew baiter will be glad to hear) puts me off coming to this site, which is a shame.

          • Migraine, you are a complete bore, engaging with you on any meaningful level is futile. You are here as an evangelist, to save the Jews who should see the light, and condemn the rest as incorrigible ‘neoZionists’. Providing you with evidence is a waste of time. Read some books on the nature of antisemitism and feel the shame when you acknowledge your place in it. Then come back and apologise. Until then, goodbye.

            • @Groovy Times. I am opposed to all racism and fascism. Are you suggesting that Jews are somehow immune to racism and fascism? I have nothing to apologize for. In fact, you ought to be thanking me for highlighting fascism and racism of the kind which has seen Jews suffer throughout history. Or is racism and fascism only acceptable to you when its directed against Arabs/Muslims?

      • Please provide evidence where I have “openly incited the slaughter of very last Israeli”?

        • First things first Margraine. Please answer the question – When will you stop stealing?
          Regarding the evidence you asked for: your constant calling the ideology what Israel’s existence is based upon “apartheid” and call Zionists (about 90% of Israel’s Jewish population) Nazis you clearly incite for their annihilation. (Not to mention the fact that this shows you complete and total ignorance regarding the meaning of the words “apartheid” and “fascism”.)
          But I wouldn’t suggest to ban your hate filled rantings here – it is the best proof of the fact that your kind of fake human rights warriors who are ready to fight the Jews to the last drop of Palestinian blood are losers who want to compensate their marital, sexual, social, financial and professional failures by finding some convenient target to hate – forgetting the fact that the rules have been changed – during the last two thousands years Jews were a very convenient target for venting your frustration – today due to the existence of Israel you are just a sorry halfwit social unfit whose only intellectual and financial achievements are the result of being a plagiarist.

          • More projection. If you are capable of actually engaging with me on what I’ve said as opposed to what you think I’ve said, then I’ll continue. Until then, you are welcome to continue fantasizing all you like. It makes no difference to me one way or the other.

    • So you are implying, none too subtly, that he is lying and his name is not Edward.
      And that’s not harassment?

      • To make it short you are a thief. Not surprising – this is a frequent phenomenon with Jew haters and other racist bigots who can’t achieve anything without using immoral methods like you do. The best witness is comrade Greenstein – but don’t ask him – you will be sued quicker than you can say “Ytbach el Yahud”. Regarding your fantasies about “engaging” with your Pravda/Stuermer/Guardian style crap – I’m not in the business to argue with obviously psychologically damaged ignorant losers venting their frustration and inferiority complex on a blog.

    • Jews wandered the desert for 40 years. Meanwhile, Miranda wants the world to change to her tune PRONTO.

      May you run out of prune juice by the end of the 3rd day, Boobie.

        • Maybe you should consider their sorry state among the nations. But the Kurds now have some hope thanks to the Arab Spring….
          Naturally you are not interested in their struggle – Jews are not involved.

    • This kind of personal baiting is totally unacceptable, I hope the site owners do the decent thing by banning you.

    • Miranda,
      Here’s the thing. I agree that Edward should not have posted Margrain’s info, but on the other hand we have YOU, Miranda the policeman.
      You have not so much as mentioned the, to paraphrase you, “inflammatory postings” of Daniel Margrain.
      This could come as a shock to you, but the purpose of this site is not to provide a playground for antisemites.

      • Jeff I agree that Margrain’s personal details should not have been published and posted my view at the time on the appropriate thread.
        If anyone has a problem with another poster or the contents of a post then the obvious and logical course of action is to e-mail Adam stating the cause of their complaint.

        What I find repugnant is an attempt to hijack a thread about Pesach greetings with a cheap and shoddy attempt at grandstanding by, and on behalf of, the Axis of Arseholes.

        • @Gerald –

          RE: “…a cheap and shoddy attempt at grandstanding by, and on behalf of, the Axis of Arseholes.”

          Thanks for confirming that you would have done NOTHING to urge a red line – despite believing it should be drawn. Unlike you, I’d have taken exactly the same step if ANYONE’S personal details (even the despicable Edward’s) had been posted so maliciously and irresponsibly

          (What’s your mob called, BTW? The Alliance of Anuses?)

          • Mad Cow Miranda, let’s look at two of the sentences in your post.

            “Thanks for confirming that you would have done NOTHING to urge a red line – despite believing it should be drawn.”
            I expressed my point of view, on the appropriate thread, and also why I thought it was wrong to post anyone’s details.
            If you want to start ‘drawing red lines’ be very careful, you and your fellow Axis members could be the first to be ‘moderated’ or banned.

            “Unlike you, I’d have taken exactly the same step if ANYONE’S personal details (even the despicable Edward’s) had been posted so maliciously and irresponsibly”
            You might not have noticed, as it does not fit in with your own warped agenda, but I was clear in my post that, on balance*, I am against “ANYONE’S” personal details being published, (even the repugnant liar, plagiarist, hypocrite and racist anti-Semitic clown Margrain’s.)

            * The reason I write “on balance” is that if ANYONE claimed to live in a certain city or country but was lying then they make themselves open to have their actual address published to prove that they are lying.

            • @Raging Bull Gerald –

              Now let’s take a look at some of yours….

              1. “I expressed my point of view, on the appropriate thread.”

              Yes, indeed you did – one of the most comment-crowded threads on this site … and thus highly unlikely to have been noticed by Adam.

              2. “If you want to start ‘drawing red lines’ be very careful, you and your fellow Axis members could be the first to be ‘moderated’ or banned.”

              A risk I’m quite prepared to take, though I think the chances are really quite small as long as “Axis” posts keep the illusion of debate alive while being decisively swamped by propagandist tracts, videos and slogans (up to and including wet-dreams of Palestinian extinction) posted under the “Pro-Israel” banner.

              3. “The reason I write “on balance” is that if ANYONE claimed to live in a certain city or country but was lying then they make themselves open to have their actual address published to prove that they are lying.”

              That’s something of a red-herring since this was NOT Edward’s motive – but you’re also being disingenuous. Anyone choosing to post under a pseudonym, and whose user-name doesn’t link to a more personally-revealing website/blog/facebook/twitter account, etc, can tell whatever porkies they like about themselves without any such repercussion.

              • Mad Cow Miranda leaving one side your farcical post which is of such a poor quality that it is instantly forgettable, there is one thing that does stick out like a sore thumb.
                That is your decision NOT to challenge, or disagree, with my completely accurate description of your pet idiot Margrain, which is “the repugnant liar, plagiarist, hypocrite and racist anti-Semitic clown Margrain.”

                Doubtless you will now try to cover your tracks with some Bullshit excuse about it not being worthy of a reply or similar belated excuse.
                But the fact remains you did not disagree with it or attempt to challenge it, at the time. And that I, as well as others will, have noted.

                • @Gerald –

                  RE: “Doubtless you will now try to cover your tracks with some Bullshit excuse. But the fact remains you did not disagree with it or attempt to challenge it, at the time. And that I, as well as others will, have noted.”

                  One rather significant fact which you and those “others” seemingly failed to “note” is that I didn’t participate in the thread AT ALL…. something that quite often happens, you may be surprised to learn, for a multitude of reasons like “out visiting friends” or “computer on the blink” or “jeez, UKMediaWatch is like a piranha swamp today, think I’ll give it a miss”.

                  I don’t need ANY excuse for choosing what discussions I join – and least of all those of the vicious variety you so clearly like to get stuck into.

                  • Mad Cow Miranda as I correctly predicted you are trying to cover your tracks with some Bullshit excuse.
                    Your attempt to switch discussion from this thread to another is not at all convincing, and frankly a very sub-standard attempt at diversion.

                    Clearly you have ‘participated’ on this thread and it is on this thread that I made my observation, “That is your decision NOT to challenge, or disagree, with my completely accurate description of your pet idiot Margrain, which is “the repugnant liar, plagiarist, hypocrite and racist anti-Semitic clown Margrain.”

                    Now you are claiming you did not participate in the thread AT ALL…
                    Are you a blatant liar or just stupid?

                    And then we get even more attempts at excuses which are Bullshit;
                    “out visiting friends” You don’t seriously expect anyone to believe that you have friends
                    “jeez, UKMediaWatch is like a piranha swamp today, think I’ll give it a miss”. If we promise to turn it into a piranha swamp every day, do you promise to Piss Off and never return?

                    As for your final sentence, “I don’t need ANY excuse for choosing what discussions I join – and least of all those of the vicious variety you so clearly like to get stuck into.”
                    You are the one who tried and failed to grandstand on this thread about your pet idiot Margrain., and when challenged about it tried to throw up ‘shit and confusion’ to cover up your tracks.

              • Miranda,

                “A risk I’m quite prepared to take, though I think the chances are really quite small as long as “Axis” posts keep the illusion of debate alive while being decisively swamped by propagandist tracts, videos and slogans (up to and including wet-dreams of Palestinian extinction) posted under the “Pro-Israel” banner.”

                The illusion of debate? So, according to you it’s a farce, but you’re participating anyway? What a loser.
                Palestinian extinction? Do get a grip on reality. It’s no wonder that you are in love with Daniel Margrain.

              • Fruitbat screeches:
                “as long as “Axis” posts keep the illusion of debate alive” –
                Are you stupid, illiterate or insane? Your mates do not ‘debate’, they post unhinged hate-dripping bile.

                “up to and including wet-dreams of Palestinian extinction” –
                Sorry, you are clearly stupid, illiterate AND insane.

              • Good God, Miranda, you are the most belligerent asshole on this site, and that includes the out in the open as well as the closeted Nazis.

                Now, please blame American Jews again for the fact that you’re a pathetic example of Middle East dialogue.

      • @jeff21st –

        1. The last thing I wanted was to be the policeman on this. My hope was that one of UK MediaWatch’s “on-side” contributors who’d taken issue with Edward about his post would ask Adam to delete it. But after four days of inaction, I knew that wasn’t going to happen – and Edward’s REPEATEDLY threatening refs back to it were what finally decided the matter for me.

        2. The “purpose of this site” is entirely in Adam’s hands. As long as he’s willing to tolerate the salvos of bigotry and name-calling – of all complexions – that are traded in almost every thread, I guess a rather nasty playground is what it will remain.

          • “Complain to your 2 mates – and yourself – about bigotry, demented fruitbat.”

            It’s demented to support the the 20th/21st century equivalent of the Warsaw Ghetto.

        • Nothing decided the matter for you – you took the decision. Take some responsibility. As far as we know, Margrain never did anything about it.
          Perhaps it was none of your business, Sergeant Friday.

  2. Happy Passover to All and may the enemies of the Jews, the descendants of Pharaohs armies (including neturi karta), suffer 10 plagues.

      • Migraine, Considering that Muslims hate Bahais, Buddhists, Christians, Hindus, Jews, Zoroastrians, and the wrong kind of Muslim, your ranting is a poor attempt to divert attention from the World-Wide problem of Islamofascism.

        But Happy Eternal Nakba!

        • Again more racist generalisations about Muslims from our residet Muslim hater….Tut, tut,

  3. Happy Passover to All at UK Media Watch. Adam and those w go share thoughts about the Press that is oppressive towards not only truth, Israel and all Jewsin a sense this relatively smallgroup isseking the same tting a the Passover. We do yearn to set ourselves free from the burden of needing to justify validate or explain and correct false images the media portrays us in unlike any other people in Earth. The day may. Yet come but in the meantime ours is an important role for our survival as it was for our People even at the time iof the Exodus Chag Sameach

    • Talk about a persecution complex. Such irrational drivel is not supported by the facts. The media are overwhelmingly in favour of the pro-neoZionist narrative as the studies by Glasgow Media Group show..

  4. I don’t confuse them and I’m very clear about the difference. However, it’s clear that you are not.

      • Miranda this is not your answer, you want them to be unhappy and instead of dancing you want them to kill us and die themselves. Hopefully there are many of them happy Palestinians who won’t let you and your Genossen to fight your war against the Jews on their back. Thank you for the clip!

      • MiranDUH, Your Pal-e-SWINANS were Happy on 9/11 – blowing car horns, giving out candy, yodeling on 9/11/01.

      • Not bad. I’d have preferred to see a little more male/female balance but as a patriarchal society it is what it is. Perhaps this will cheer you up as well. It’s kind of nice to see happy people celebrating life, is it not?

  5. @peterthehungarian –

    Just because you WANT me to “want them to be unhappy” doesn’t make it so. I love this video – so please try to grin and bear it, have a happy little dance or something, and quit trying to rile me while I’m in such a good mood. It won’t work!

    • Actually, Miranda, I saw an Israeli video to the same tune a couple of years ago, you know, when the song was hot. The Jews did a better job with it. It was very multiracial and multicultural so I’m sure you would appreciate how happy they were as they danced to the music at locations all over the country where Jews have lived for thousands of years! That’s the real Israel, i.e., the one your pets want to destroy.

      • @jeff21st –

        “I saw an Israeli video to the same tune a couple of years ago…”

        I don’t know which particular version you have in mind – there seem to have been several – but here’s the one I found labelled “Israel” (rather than “Tel Aviv”, “Jerusalem”, etc) … and which, despite your snarly 2nd response, I’m more than happy to singalong to: