General Antisemitism

Speakers at University of London event call for the Jewish state’s demise


Cross posted from the blog of Richard Millett

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Arthur Goodman, Lindsey German, Walter Wolfgang, John Rose, chairperson, Weyman Bennett, Tariq Ali at ULU last night.

Just when you think you have heard it all along comes Tariq Ali to lecture Israelis on how the end of the Jewish state will benefit not only Palestinians but Israelis as well.

For Ali the main problem in Europe isn’t anti-Semitism but Islamophobia. He admitted there was some anti-Semitism in the Arab world but it was only brought about by reaction to Israel and that once Israel has disappeared antisemitism will disappear.

Ali was speaking last night at the University of London’s Student Union in front of an audience of 300 alongside anti-Israel author John Rose, Weyman Bennett of Unite Against Fascism, Lindsey German of Stop the War Coalition, Arthur Goodman of Jews for Justice for Palestinians and “As a Jew” activist Walter Wolfgang .

The main message of the evening was that antisemitism is being used merely to attack Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn and to silence all criticism of Israel (aka the Livingstone formulation). Both John Rose and Ali then went on to explicitly call for the demise of Israel.

On entering we were handed an unsigned leaflet headed “Labour Jews Assert” which stated that “Some people…are wielding ‘antisemitism’ allegations as a stick to beat the Corbyn leadership”. Luckily, Jonathan Hoffman was on hand to circulate printed copies of the EUMC Working Definition of Antisemitism. EUMC shows that what these people claim isn’t antisemitism actually is!

Arthur Goodman said it wasn’t surprising that people conflate Jews and Israel when the British Jewish establishment says all Jews support Israel and Netanyahu says Israel represents all Jews.

He said that Jewish groups shouldn’t be allowed to define what antisemitism is as they have a vested interest. He called for an objective definition instead before going on to outrageously claim that Israel “ethnically cleansed” the Palestinians in 1948.

Goodman said that although the same had happened to the indigenous people of America their dispossession had finished long ago so it was wrong to revive any such similarity today. And he said for most UK Jews a love of Israel is part of their identity and so they see criticism of Israel as criticism of them.

Weymann Bennett said that Left was in the forefront of fighting antisemitism and gave as an example UAF’s protests against the leader of Jobbik when he visited the UK and he said similar protests will take place when Marine Le Pen visits.

Lindsey German didn’t like the fact that Israel’s new Ambassador Mark Regev was immediately allowed on Andrew Marr’s BBC show and said that this is going to happen a lot now (I hope she’s right!).

And she said that Zionism is a political ideology criticism of which should be allowed. She also said that many Jews do not support what Israel does (she didn’t say many Muslim people also don’t support what the Palestinians do).

Walter Wolfgang told us he was speaking “As a Jew”. He gave us his own history of Zionism; he quoted Ahad Ha’am who, he said, wanted merely a cultural as opposed to a political centre in historic Israel, he (wrongly) claimed that in 1948 the Palestinians were “driven out of their habitations” and he (wrongly) asserted that Jabotinsky wanted Israel established by force of arms.

Wolfgang wanted Israel to exist but within the (indefensible) 1948-1967 ceasefire lines and a just settlement for “Palestinian refugees”.

The villains with the biggest lies of the evening were John Rose and Tariq Ali.

Ali (wrongly) claimed it was Israeli government policy to brand everyone who criticises Israel as antisemitic (see clip 1 below).

He also said that the way the Holocaust is “taught as a unique crime is not that helpful” because there were other crimes like in the Congo and if these other crimes are not taught in schools then no one will understand what the Muslims are suffering today (clip 2). And he continued:

“If what is being done with Muslim communities today were being done to the Jews again how many would tolerate it? Very few. And these are the double standards.” (clip 2)

He said that antisemitism is used to stop any campaigning against Israel but if there was a so-called one state solution then antisemitism and criticism of Israel would disappear and that Israelis and their children and grandchildren would benefit (clip 3).

Rose said he had spoken to an Israeli archaeologist who said the “Palestinians had all become Islamic terrorists”. This, Rose claimed, was symptomatic of the levels of racism in Israeli society today (clip 4).

Rose wanted (clip 5) there to be one person-one vote for Israelis and Palestinians including the so-called Palestinian refugees (90% of whom are not refugees at all by the way). Obviously Israelis would be outvoted so Rose is basically calling for the establishment of a 57th Muslim state in place of the only Jewish one.

Rose claimed that calling for a so-called one state solution isn’t antisemitic. However, in my opinion, denying the Jewish people their only state in their historic homeland (even when it could still be alongside a Palestinian one) can only be antisemitic especially when a boycott of Israel is also called for.

The superb Jonathan Hoffman took to the microphone during the Q&A to articulate Israel’s case under immense pressure (clip 6).

Last night there was no mention of Hamas and Hezbollah and their genocidal intent to destroy Israel and every Jewish person worldwide. Neither was it mentioned that Hezbollah flags are openly on display at Palestine Solidarity Campaign and Stop The War Campaign protests in London and that the Holocaust is flagrantly traduced.

This tells you ALL you need to know about PSC and STWC types however “anti-racist” they try to claim they are.

Relevant clips from last night:

Clip 1

Clip 2

Clip 3

Clip 4

Clip 5

Clip 6

75 replies »

    • Isn’t it amazing this is still out in the open. No hiding anti-semitism when it comes to the jews and Israel. Just don’t say anything about the Muslims and Arab states bedazzled thn it’s racism. The same could be said in reverse, if the Arab states didn’t exist there would not be trouble in the region. When will common sense take over and whatever happened to journalism instead of editorialism.

    • Yes. It’s sort of strange how the panel is only obsessive delusional anti Israel loons. I thought that students wanted to hear both sides.

    • “OK, now, how many people here think that all of those sitting at the table in the top photo should be in a closed institution?”

      What I think is that future historians will be able to point to this gathering as a copy cat Wannsee Conference.

  1. Tariq Ali said that antisemitism is used to stop any campaigning against Israel but if there was a so-called one state solution then antisemitism and criticism of Israel would disappear and that Israelis and their children and grandchildren would benefit

    WOW! Tariq wants Israeli children and their grandchildren to live in peace. And antisemitism would disappear. Is he suggesting ‘Koranic revisionism’? Gasp! A dangerous prospect these days.

    • The mental development of that spoiled narcissistic prick stopped when he was 12 (and he wasn’t the sharpest knife in the box even then).

    • When Muslims can’t even get along with fellow Muslims (250,000+ dead in Syria, 8 year Iraq/Fascist Iran war, sunni vs shiite vs wahabbi vs salifi vs wookie), how can any sane person claim that Muslims could get along with NON-Muslims.

      • 200.000 dead in Darfur, Somalia, Pakistan violence, Yemen’s war’s with Nassar and now, Sudan, 18 year civil war in Lebanon with Syria/Iran involvement, the 90s slaughter in Algeria and on and on.

  2. “[Arthur Goodman] said that Jewish groups shouldn’t be allowed to define what antisemitism is as they have a vested interest. ”
    WTF.

    Arthur Goodman tried to equate Arab colonizers of Israel with Native Americans.

    “Arthur Goodman said it wasn’t surprising that people conflate Jews and Israel when the British Jewish establishment says all Jews support Israel and Netanyahu says Israel represents all Jews.”

    But then Arthur Goodman said:
    “…for most UK Jews a love of Israel is part of their identity and so they see criticism of Israel as criticism of them.”

    Arthur Goodman shouldn’t be allowed to weigh in on Israel’s affairs in any way as he is a mindless, misinformed, purveyor of disinformation and a bigoted whack job.

  3. “Weymann Bennett said that Left was in the forefront of fighting antisemitism and gave as an example UAF’s protests against the leader of Jobbik when he visited the UK and he said similar protests will take place when Marine Le Pen visits.”

    Weymann Bennett wants to deflect attention to his right in order to obscure the inherent antisemitism of the cause he supports. He is a coverup artist.

    • When has UAF protested Islamofascism? Protested Andy Choudary and his Islamist brown shirts?

      Never????

  4. Some days I awake as if I were on another planet where good=bad and bad=good. Those people who spent years occupying a seat in a classroom supposedly getting an educatIon and developing the ability to objectively research and collect information and then critically assess and discern elements of truth or fact behind it they used it as a cover. They came out actually knowing very little for the time they spent learning in Academia and they became great a fudging information to reach an untrue conclusion and if that doesn’t work lie and hide behind the alphabet soup after their name they think give them credibility. They are fraudsters. i don’t underestimate the fight for OUR LIFE Worldwide and it will take a unified approach. Remember what is behind us and all those who tried and failed to eliminate us. Remember that many of those Peoples no longer inhabit this Earth but are the dust bin of History.

  5. We certainly do need to counter they’re aggression as vigorously as on any battlefield since the poison that they they spread to young vulnerable minds and the unknowing ignorant (for lack of a better description) public is as lethal as any Missile, grenade or small arms fire. It’s one battlefield of the larger War just as Lawfare, Media and so forth.

  6. Oh-ho! I see Millett is at it again; earning his keep. When will he understand that, “antisemitism”, is a self-inflicted disease? Nobody hates Jews (or even, “israelis”) for being Jews. What we despise are their ACTIONS against Palestinians. Jews, in the West, are not hated over, “israel”, or they should not be. The root-cause of, “antisemitism”, would be, “israel”, occupation and genocide of Palestine and Palestinians. IN fact, the very idea that Palestinians have (thus-far) survived this genocide is what causes anti-Semitism.
    I thought Millet a wordsmith. Is he not? Perhaps it is only one particular word he has trouble with?

    • annedreck58,

      Do you also hate Arabs/Muslims for their genocide of Bahais, Buddhists, Christians, Hindus, Jews, Zoroastrians and fellow Muslims of the wrong sect?

      Who do you despise for 9/11, London’s 7/7, Brussels, Charlie Hebdo, Bataclan, beheading of British soldier Lee Rigby, beheading of journalist Daniel Pearl, James Foley, Mumbai India attack, Nairobi Kenya mall massacre, bombing of Pan Am 103 and shooting down of Metrojet, San Bernardino, 8 year Iraq/Fascist Iran war, death of 250,000+ in the Syria/ISIS Civil War, Moscow bombings, Beslan school attack, Bali, Madrid, Fort Hood?

      Why are there checkpoints at every airport in the world, screening passenger, luggage, cargo? What are they looking for?

    • BTW annedreck58,

      How many palestinians were there in 1948?

      How many palestinians are there TODAY?

      If there is “genocide”, the population of “palestinians” today should be a fraction compared to 1948.

      Are you practicing Taqiyya? Is the sky blue?

    • Anne Beck’s website is the textbook example of classic antisemitism very poorly masquerading as concern for the Palestinians combined with different kind of conspiracy theories, radiating groceries and similar amazing stuff, naturally combined with accusations of child murder, organ trading and the usual well known crap about Jews. A useful illustration of bigotry, ignorance and stupidity.

    • annedreck58,

      So this is what your life has come to, i.e., logging on to a pro Israel site just to attempt to piss off some Jews. How sad.
      Let me return the favor. You know, Jews are the indigenous people of Israel, not Arabs. The Arabs, now calling themselves the “Palestinians” treat Jews like crap. That’s what I object to. I don’t hate the Arabs for who they are, but what they do. The Palestinian cause is an imperialist, colonialist, racist project. That’s what you support because that’s what you are too – a racist, colonialist, imperialist. Isn’t that funny? Ha, ha.

    • @annebeck58
      ” The root-cause of, “antisemitism”, would be, “israel”, occupation and genocide of Palestine and Palestinians.”
      Root cause means the cause that initiated something, or initiated a chain of events.
      So on whichever planet you exist on there was no such thing as anti-Semitism before 1948?

      You then go on and claim, in the next sentence, ” IN fact, the very idea that Palestinians have (thus-far) survived this genocide is what causes anti-Semitism.”
      Apart from the obvious distortions of history and fact, that sentence is illogical and garbled nonsense.