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In praise of Melanie Phillips


You don’t have to agree with Melanie Phillips on every issue to acknowledge that she is a truly indispensable and courageous voice in contrast to the moral cesspool of anti-Zionist commentary so ubiquitous in the UK, and I ask that you continue supporting her by visiting her new site, here:

http://www.melaniephillips.com/

I’d also highly recommend reading her book, The World Turned Upside Down, which you can purchase at Amazon UK, here, or at Amazon US, here.

As Chief Rabbi Lord Sacks said:

“With ferocious courage, Melanie Phillips challenges a series of myths and irrationalities that have achieved canonical status in the contemporary world. If civilization depends on the ability to give dissenting voices a hearing, then The World Turned Upside Down may well be one of the most important tests of Western civilization in our time.”

Here’s wishing Phillips well at her new site where she will, undoubtedly, continue truly speaking truth to power.

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  1. Professional Muslim basher Mad Mel’s book is called The World Turned Upside Down? How very apt.

    • By no means does she Phillips “bash” Muslims- merely many aspects of British Muslims’ backwards culture of anti-integration and refusing to accept Western values, and well as the general backwardness and support of terror in the Arab world.

      If refusing to adhere to Political correctness is madness, count me in.

      Some other of her views though like on the environment and social issues I disagree with, as many others.

      • “Who are the double-digit IQ morons who approved this disgusting post?”

        A few of Pretzelberg’s recent insults:

        “Professional Muslim basher Mad Mel’s”

        “double-digit IQ morons”

        “At least I’m not a neanderthal like you.”

        “bigoted idiots like you.”

        She didn’t teach him manners either.

        • Wow. Not one but two posts attacking my mother. Very classy.

          You and the people recommending your posts really are pathetic.

          And I’ve made more positive contributions to this website than the lot of you combined!

          Shame on you.

            • What I said is the truth. Or how many articles here have been prompted by a contribution along the lines of “H/T Hoi Polloi”?

              It’s you and the ignoramuses agreeing with you who are delusional .

              Really, people: you need to get help.

              • And nice anti-gentile hatred to boot!
                Shame on you and those pathetic specimens who support your clearly bigoted comments.

                • “Nothing anti-gentile about it. ”

                  Absolutley there is. I would deem any comment along the lines of “XYZ (insert insult) Jew” as anti-Semitic.

                  And your anti-gentile rants are likewise disgusting. What a shame that your bigotry finds so many pathetic followers.

                • Hoi Polloi: “Nothing anti-gentile about it. ”

                  Absolutely there is. I would deem any comment along the lines of “XYZ (insert insult) Jew” as anti-Semitic.

                  And your anti-gentile rants are likewise disgusting. What a shame that your bigotry finds so many pathetic followers.

                • You have posted anti-gentile comments and are clearly a bigot. E-mails about me circulated by your fellow fascists? Fine by me.

              • Strange how barely any poster here complains about bigoted anti-gentile posts.
                If there were a comment like “Oh yes, XYZ, the indespensable Jew” on CiF you’d be up in arms.
                Hypocritical fuckwits.

          • “And I’ve made more positive contributions to this website than the lot of you combined!”

            So far the only thing you’ve contributed to this board is brushing off those who warn of the Arab imperialists’ genocial intentions as “talking nonsense.” There were Pollyannas like you 80 years ago, only they had an excuse.

          • Dimwits all of those who agree with HP’s accusations. The average CiF poster (!) is more intelligent than you idiots – which is a sad reflection on a website that has the potential to achieve so much more.

            • Adam, here Pretzelberg wrote: “The average CiF poster (!) is more intelligent than you idiots”

              Why are you not censoring Pretzel just as Hoi Polloi?

              And why do you, like so many Jews, seem compelled to apply a double standard against their friends (like Hoi) and in favour of their enemies (like Pretzel, half of whose posts attack CW)?

              • And why do you, like so many Jews, seem compelled to apply a double standard against their friends …

                Oh dear, are you saying that Adam is a self-hating Jew ?????

        • @Hoi Polli, I’ve been spending way too much time deleting your completely inappropriate and offensive comments. Please refrain from attacks on other commenters.

          • No – the problem is that you haven’t been spending time deleting comments by him and the other similarly-minded moral degenerates. It’s about time that you guys started taking responsibility for what appears on your site. We all criticize the CiF moderation, but at least they do have moderation; here there is none. And the only result is that the site is turning into a joke. You would be better off not allowing comments at all.

          • Adam, re your comment to Hoi: then why do you tolerate Pretzelberg’s equally insulting, often content-free pejoratives directed both at the CW site itself and at those with whom he disagrees (including apologia for Guardian anti-Semitism)?

            Why does CW protect the pathological Pretzelberg in the same way the Guardian seems to protect the pathological Berchmans?

            • Adam, re your comment to Hoi: then why do you tolerate Pretzelberg’s equally insulting …

              I only throw insults at those who insult me or others first. And I certainly have never e.g. made a personal attack on another poster’s mother.

              But you’d know that if you weren’t so blind, Just a Thought.

              And why do you, like so many Jews, seem compelled to apply a double standard

              Unbelievable that you said this to Adam – who in fact has been very lenient with the hateful likes of Hoi Polloi.

              If you don’t like this site and how it’s run, then fuck off. There were regular posters here long before you who are actually interested in discussion – and we will be here long after you’ve gone.

              • Pretzelberg:

                Maybe they will go somewhere else once they realize that Adam is secretly a “self-hating Jew” 🙂

  2. Have you read it, Pretzelberg?

    In fact, by labelling her ‘mad’ you prove her point; that today anyone who doesn’t agree with the Stated Truth(s) has to be mad, bad, insane or worse.

    Don’t you think that’s a dangerous place to be?

      • Read the book Pretzelberg before you pass judgement. Your comments might be taken more seriously then.

        • You hypocrite. As if everyone else posting here has read the book! Why don’t you take issue with their posts?

          You know Phillips is a bigot. Why don’t you criticise her?

  3. Hear, hear. Good luck Melanie and thanks for everything on your blog, which Duvidl has continued to read since it first appeared on your website.

    NB. prezza; you are mistaken. Melanie is no Muslim basher; and now that her writing is back on her own website, she is clearly no longer being professionally paid for them by any other website. Melanie always takes scrupulous care to distinguish those Muslims who wish and do harm to others from the majority of Muslims worldwide.

  4. Even The Spectator couldn’t stomach Mad, there’s a Muzzie under my bed, Mel’s increasingly deranged & extremists views. No surprise she’s treated as some kind of hero by some on this blog.

    • See above for the replies to Pretzelberg’s ill-thought-out post. Melanie sees clearly and expresses her views forthrightly. That you dismiss her so means that you are uncomfortable with her being able to do that, or the views themselves strike a chord which you’d rather not acknowledge.

      And you know even less than anyone about why Mel no longer writes for the Spectator. You are an ignoramus of the worst kind – your ignorance is mixed with spite in equal measure

    • mostly brainless, “there’s a Muzzie under my bed” is in your addled brain.

      The Freemasons, Rotarians, Lions are all ZIONISTS! is in Article 17 of your HAMASS charter of 1988.

      http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp

      Look out most brainless, there’s a Zionist under your bed, in a transmitter in your molars, upstairs, downstairs, controling governments, the weather, the media, Hollyweird.

      You are DOOMED!

      And that’s the way I like it.

  5. Avertisers at the Speccie probably put the boot in it.

    And not to forget the pinkish, hug-a-liberal tone of this fast-becoming-a-crypto-commie rag – I wouldn’t wipe my dog’s arse with it.

  6. At least I’m not a neanderthal like you. Plus I’ve made more positive contributions to this website than you ever will. If anyone needs throwing off the site – it’s bigoted idiots like you.

    • Melanie Phillips is bat shit crazy.

      One point of many in Israels favour as opposed to its despotic neighbours is its treatment of homosexuals.

      Now why don’t you try typing ‘Gay’ into the search facility on her website – and suddenly she starts sounding like one of those CIF bigots that you quite rightly lay into.

      I wonder what she thinks about the Rotary club…..

          • Aren’t you a little charmer?

            And what pray, from my analysis of that horrid woman whoes take on homosexuals and their ‘conspiracies’ is as disgusting as any lunatic antisemites take on Jews marks me out as refuse?

            Or are you just pig ignorant and didn’t bother to read it?

              • Firstly it’s Wales. You are confusing it with the aquatic mammal I believe.
                I hope that has cleared the issue up.

                Secondly I am well aware of the official Iranian attitude to homosexuals. It is as contemptable as their views on the Shoah for example.

                I believe I have seen you on Harrys Place, where I welcome you to review any comments I have made all of which would show a total contempt for Islamism, especially the recent ones concerning the meeting of Cage Prisoners in Cardiff which I have vehemently opposed and railed against.

                I however also see that fighting bigots by embracing bigots is not a wise move. We are not after all Hamasnics.

                • MattWhales, Not only does the Islamic Republic of Iran

                  – hang gays from construction cranes
                  – hang women
                  – deny the history of the Holocaust
                  – officially threaten another UN member country with genocide
                  – officially desire death and destruction for the US and Israel
                  – lie about its genocidal nuclear weapons program
                  – murder its own population to defend a corrupt theocracy

                  but fools like you pay lip service to that very authoritarin, sectarian, genocidal terrorist regime.

                  If only you had any sense or honour, you too would be ashamed of yourself and your fellow ideologues.

                  • You are an absolute liar. And a stupid one at that.

                    Where have I done that?

                    Go on show me you half wit!

                    • Again. Where have I lied and do say what about.
                      Proof not your thing is it fool?

                      Fish.
                      Barrel 😉

                    • MattWhales,

                      We are stillllll waiting for your explanation of why the great Melanie Phillips is in your fascist view “bat shit crazy”.

                      I ask you once again to explain.

                      Glass houses.
                      Stones.

                    • Infidel you are a waste of time, if you’d bothered to read my first post you’d see why.

                      Your arguement is that I should explain myself yet again as your too thick to read it.

                      Seriously find another website to debase, this one has too worthy a cause for the likes of you.

                    • Don’t let the bastards get you down. The haters come and go on this website. People like Hoi Polloi and Derek Pasquill are more interested in hating Muslims and other non-Jews (and the “self-haters”, of course!) than actually challenging anti-Semitism.

            • Blimey Your a bit bat shit crazy yourself mate lol

              Thats a fantastic leap of lunacy. Im a holocaust denier am I?

              And thats where your gormeless little argument goes up in smoke.

              “barely literate liar” heal thyself mate 😉

              • You’ve called Mattwales a Holocaust denier again – purely and simply because you disagree with him! What intellectual degenerates you and your likes are.
                Shame on you.

            • Nothing in Mattwales’ posts even hints at them being a “barely literate liar” or a “vicious bigot”.

              You should rather look in the mirror.

    • Very posititive contributions — like insisting ‘Jews control the media’ isn’t anti-Semitic. You’re a pathological case which, like the broken clock, is occasionally right by accident.

      • Very posititive contributions — like insisting ‘Jews control the media’ isn’t anti-Semitic.

        What complete bullshit. God you’re a pathetic specimen. Shame on you.

  7. Pretzelberg

    This is not about any single view held by Melanie herself, but about the book, ‘A World Turned Upside Down’.If you read it, you might understand that it has an overarching theme – as I described above.

    By ‘Stated Truth(s)’ I mean those currently deemed politically correct. The ‘isms’ if you want.

    Ms Phillips observation is that if someone disagrees with those ‘truths’ then they are viewed as not merely holding a different opinion, but ‘mad’ or ‘insane’ or beyond the social pale. The labelling is almost reflexive inasmuch as there is no normal discussion about the issue in question, but an immediate, automatic and blind censure, which, over time, will allow only one opinion to prevail; the dissenters being too wary to express another.

    Is it right that if someone has a personal religious belief they should be labelled ‘insane’? If a scientist expresses a point of view that doesn’t concur with one of those stated truths, should he lose his job simply by virtue of his disagreement? And so on.

    It is about allowing dissent, not smothering it by labelling the dissenter as having lost their mind.

    Smothering dissent by labelling is not the sign of a liberal democracy. It is the very opposite, and, in my view at least, it is dangerous on many levels.

    Read the book. You don’t have to agree with Melanie’s personal views to see that the point she makes about dissent is valid.

    • @ Penny

      Yes, in general I agree with you re. those who wish to drown out opinions that do not accord with theirs. But that applies universally, surely?

      It is about allowing dissent, not smothering it by labelling the dissenter as having lost their mind.

      But Phillips is not just about “dissent”, and her views go way beyond valid criticism of Muslims/Islam.

  8. Melanie Phillips is angry about the way Jews and Israel are treated in too much of the world. She is sufficiently knowledgeable to appreciate the mortal danger Israel is in the more lying Nazi-derived Muslim propaganda is accepted as fact in the West.

    That’s all it is, pretzelberg and it’s all real.

  9. MattWales

    I honestly don’t know what Melanie Phillips has said about the points you mention, but I realise she can be controversial. I have never seen her as homophobic at all, but I would like to hear your point of view on this. That’s a genuine question, Matt, because I think it is the case that men fail miserably when deciding what is and what is not sexist, just as non-Jews can often fail to understand what is and what is not antisemitic, so I’d like to understand more about the points you’re making.

  10. Pretzelberg

    “But Phillips is not just about “dissent”, and her views go way beyond valid criticism of Muslims/Islam.”

    But I’m not arguing any one of her beliefs, Pretzelberg. I’ve tried to make that clear from the start, and I think even Adam’s article does the same thing. I daresay Melanie and I would part company on a number of issues! I’ve stuck with ‘dissent’ because for me, it’s the most singularly important point she makes.

    It took dissent to bring forth a number of movements that are knocked bigotry into a cocked hat.

  11. Dear Moderator.

    This site is a great idea, really. CIF is full of absolute hatemoungers, and the fight against anti semites is well worth having and well past time as the currently political climate has allowed it to propergate to levels not seen since the thirties.

    However, this site needs a bit of a clean up. How on Earth can you let commentors call critics of Mel Philips ‘comparable to holocaust deniers’ surely by letting someone cheaply fling that term about is if anything harming our cause.

    You need to consider if your here to cater to the anti muslim crowd or the anti bigotry crowd as the first lot tend to hamstring any decent arguement you make about Islamist facism by enabling your opponents to label your work as ‘just another Muslim bashing site’.

  12. Dear Moderator.

    This site is a great idea, really. CIF is full of absolute hatemoungers, and the fight against anti semites is well worth having and well past time as the currently political climate has allowed it to propergate to levels not seen since the thirties.
    However, this site needs a bit of a clean up. How on Earth can you let commentors call critics of Mel Philips ‘comparable to holocaust deniers’ surely by letting someone cheaply fling that term about is if anything harming our cause.
    You need to consider if your here to cater to the anti muslim crowd or the anti bigotry crowd as the first lot tend to hamstring any decent arguement you make about Islamist facism by enabling your opponents to label your work as ‘just another Muslim bashing site’.

    • Welcome to CifWatch ! My conclusion is that the moderators support the bigoted scatological comments that you refer to, otherwise why do they make no effort to remove them ? The result is painfully obvious; this site might have become a serious alternative to CiF to discuss Middle East politics, but instead the permission the moderators have given to mental midgets and morons to abuse anyone who expresses an opinion has driven away all serious posters. The result is pathetic and all we see BTL is a group of morons trying to outdo each other in the sub-intelligent hatred. Too bad, because there are often some interesting articles here.

      • The result is pathetic and all we see BTL is a group of morons trying to outdo each other in the sub-intelligent hatred. Too bad, because there are often some interesting articles here.

        I agree on both fronts, MindTheCrap. The morons here make your average CiF poster look preposterously intelligent.

  13. So who agreed with Hoi Polloi’s accusation that Mattwales is a “Holocaust denier”?

    Please do make yourselves known.

  14. So who are the people who a) agreed with Hoi Polloi’s accusation of Mattwales being a “Holocaust denier” and b) agreed with Hoi Polloi’s reference to my mother as a “despicable witch”?

    Come on. Let’s see you all come forward, please.

    Or are you just a bunch of juvenile cowards?

  15. Hoi Polloi. You have on a site concerning anti semitism thrown the term ‘halocaust denier’ because someone challenged Mel Philips rants and you had a little paddy.
    You have shot yourself in the foot there.
    Do please aim higher next time you loathsome little weasel.

  16. Hoi Polloi – the star of CifWatch – comes to the rescue of the CifWatch motley crew of bigoted mental midgets and morons. Note that Hoi Polloi posts with impunity on this site and it appears that none of his comments are ever removed (I don’t believe that he can write anything worse than the turgid trash that appears). But note how the people who run this site denounce CiF because of the nature of the comments that they allow to be posted. Apparently they believe that allowing Hoi Polloi and his clones to pollute these pages does not reflect upon their politics and philosophy. So again we see a new and serious poster – MattWales – who will no doubt never return to this site, simply because he has no patience for a group of retarded 12 year olds who compete with each other to see who can come up with the most juvenile insult. And all this with the silent approval of the moderators and those who run this site.

    • But note how the people who run this site denounce CiF because of the nature of the comments that they allow to be posted. Apparently they believe that allowing Hoi Polloi and his clones to pollute these pages does not reflect upon their politics and philosophy.

      Exactly. Breathtaking hypocrisy on this site.

  17. I suggest again that Pretzelberg be banned from this site. I would also add MindtheCrap to the list. i do not believe these people are interested in dialogue, rather their only purpose here is to be a nuisance.

    They contribute nothing, they leave a bad odour and cifwatch would be better off without their presence here.

    • I suggest again that Pretzelberg be banned from this site. I would also add MindtheCrap to the list.

      You rather deserve banning for your utterly juvenile comments and petty insults on this site.

      i do not believe these people are interested in dialogue
      Quite the contrary. You, however, simply hurl interests in anyone disagreeing with your views. It is you who is not interested in dialogue.

      They contribute nothing

      There must be half a dozen articles here beginning with “H/T Pretzelberg”.

      What about you?

  18. For some reason my comments are appearing in the middle of this thread – rather than in order of posting –

    anyway I think that Ptretzelberg and MindtheCrap should be banned from this site – they are a waste of space and time.

  19. Yes – explain yourself Adam Lewick .. why are you protecting this nebischer Prtezelstomasack?

    • “nebischer” – and that comes from someone with a vocabulary of about two dozen words.

      Hilarious, DP!