Finkelstein: “BDS Movement is a Cult.” (The video anti-Zionists didn’t want you to see)

BDS activists posted, then removedthis YouTube video of Norman Finkelstein blasting the BDS movement  – Yes, Norman Finkelstein! – during an interview with a pro-BDS activist at Imperial College, with an interlocutor who, no doubt, thought Finkelstein was on board.

Here’s what you saw when trying to access the video following its removal.

However, thanks to our friends Zach and Matt at Huffington Post Monitor (HPM), who downloaded the video (and trimmed the original 30 minute video to include only the sections calling out the BDSers) the clip anti-Israel activists didn’t want you to see is now available.

Here’s a transcript of the shortened clip, courtesy of HPM, as well:

I’ve earned my right to speak my mind, and I’m not going to tolerate what I think is silliness, childishness, and a lot of leftist posturing.

I mean we have to be honest, and I loathe the disingenuous. They don’t want Israel. They think they are being very clever; they call it their three-tier. We want the end of the occupation, the right of return, and we want equal rights for Arabs in Israel. And they think they are very clever because they know the result of implementing all three is what, what is the result? 

You know and I know what the result is. There’s no Israel! And if you don’t want the same framework then stop talking about the law and stop trying to be so clever. Because you’re only so clever in your cult. The moment you step out you have to deal with Israeli propaganda. And here they have a case.

They say no they’re not really talking about rights. They’re talking about they want to destroy Israel. And in act I think they’re right I think that’s true. I’m not going to lie. But this kind of duplicity and disingenuous, “oh we’re agnostic about Israel.” No you’re not agnostic! You don’t want it! Then just say it! But they know full well: If you say it you don’t have a prayer reaching a broad public. Because that’s where the public is right now.

I support the BDS. But I said it will never reach a broad public until and unless they’re explicit in their goal. And their goal has to include the recognition of Israel or it’s a nonstarter. It won’t reach the public because the moment you go out there Israel will start to say what about we and they won’t recognize our right and in fact that’s correct. You can’t answer the Israelis on that because they’re making a statement that’s factually correct. It’s not an accidental and unwitting omission that BDS does not mention Israel. You know that and I know that

It’s not like they’re “oh we forgot to mention it.” They won’t mention it because they know it will split the movement. Cause there’s a large segment of the movement that wants to eliminate Israel. 

You talk about BDS they make all these claims about their victories. All their claims. You know what? You use these ten fingers? These more than suffice to count all their victories. There are superfluous fingers here to count all their victories. It’s a cult! Where the guru says we have all these victories and everyone nods their head and no one sits down to do the arithmetic on their own.

Yes it’s had some victories no question about it. But the way people promote it as if it’s proven itself and we’re on the verge of a victory of some sort. It’s just sheer nonsense. It’s a cult. And I personally am tired of it. 

There’s no Israel. That’s what it’s really about. And you think you’re fooling anybody. You think you’re so clever that people can’t figure that out for themselves? No they understand the arithmetic perfectly well. Are you going to reach a broad public which is going to hear the Israeli side ‘they want to destroy us?’ No you’re not. And frankly you know what you shouldn’t. You shouldn’t read a broad public because you’re dishonest. And I wouldn’t trust those people if I had to live in this state. I wouldn’t. It’s dishonesty.

See full video here.

31 replies »

  1. That Norman Finkelstein gay has a some inferiority complex, all he doze is seeks attention, poor man nobody has given him any when a child so now he has to invent anything to get one, what better than a Jew hating Israel this days?Israel hates like Guardian and all the mu slims “love” him, finally somebody love’s him ;((( Hurray for a Idiot!

    • Wayne! Please can you translate your comment (or have it translated for you) into literate English? We would all like to understand what point you are making.

  2. It’s important that the entire video is copied into other video formats just in case the BDS holes attempt to obliterate every last trace of this video.

  3. A good part of the way toward honesty. But only a part. The rest of the way: To realize (or admit, if you’re not just a useful idiot) the fact that the main motivator for destroying the Jewish State is imperialism, specifically Islamic imperialism, and that the campaign against Israel both physically and verbally is a facet of the same Islamic imperialist aggression on whose receiving end are the Christian Nigerians and Copts, the Hindus in India, the Buddhist in Thailand and so many more.

    Finkelstein apparently doesn’t mind, not only helping in the destruction of the one and only state the Jewish nation rightfully has in the entire world, but also serving as a useful idiot for the greater glory of shariah law. His offense against the Jewish nation, bad enough though it may be, is only part of a general pact with injustice.

  4. Unbelievable! Finkelstein has just woken up!? BDS=no Israel. Who would have thought. He supports BDS if it recognises Israel.Mmmm. Perhaps when he speaks about Hezbollah being reasonable next time , as he has declared before, he’ll give some more thought as to what they stand for as well.

  5. One of the most persistent and loyal supporters of the Palistinians are certain Swiss secular Jews. They are very close to Palistinian organizations in Switzerland and support them at least politically. Their propalistinian www’s are:,,, These Jewish organizations are clearly in the environment of the BDS-movement, namely their sister organizations in the EU. All of them accept BDS as a political – because non-bloody – weapon and take the ruin of Israeli companies into consideration. They operate very professionally.

  6. Norman Finkelstein also says:

    1. ‘West Bank, including East Jeruselum, & The Gaza Strip are occupied Palestinian territories’
    2. ‘Settlements are illegal under article 49 of the 4th Geneva Convention’
    3. ‘There is no dispute on the Right of Return’

    He’s been saying BDS is a cult for ages – just watch some of his lectures – you might learn something.

    • “He’s been saying BDS is a cult for ages – just watch some of his lectures – you might learn something”

      When and in what context?

      Finkelstein has made clear admission to what BDS actually stands for. No Israel. His own views as to what Israel is and what it should become are based on fatuous ideas, incorrect analysis of history and are on the whole impractical and non-desirable. For many, if put into effect would conclude no Israel would be the result, whether he liked it or not. He is prepared to apologise for murderers and carry the banner for the Palestinian cause, but within his twisted mind and thinking, he has certain boundaries in debate, in which he clearly identifies anti-semitism as one major motivator that drives his comrades,, something from which he continuously tries to dissociate from, but never succeeds.

    • “He’s been saying BDS is a cult for ages – just watch some of his lectures – you might learn something. ” mostly useless

      Aww, how cute: a certified mythomaniac praising yet another one.

      These people like to stick together, don´t they?

  7. Norman Finkelstein also says:

    1. ‘West Bank, including East Jeruselum, & The Gaza Strip are occupied Palestinian territories’

    Not as honest as he claims to be, is he…

    • Anyone with half a brain knows Gaza is still effectively under occupation. At least you agree that the West Bank & East Jeruselum are occupied, that’s progress I suppose.

      • You are right, moistly. Anyone with half a brain does know that. However, anyone with a complete intact brain recognises that Israel unilaterally withdrew from Gaza, uprooting every single Jewish resident, dismantling every single “settlement” and that Gaza has a border with Egypt over which Israel has no control whatsoever. Gaza also claims to have a “democratically elected” government.

        Some “occupation”.

        • OK, let’s go with ‘Gaza is not occupied’ for a minute, do you accept The West Bank & East Jeruselum are? (You might need to engage both halfs of your brain for this one)

          • The definition of occupation is “under the control of an army”. Gaza is not under the control of the IDF. Some of the West Bank is occupied, some of it isn’t. east Jerusalem is NOT occupied because it is NOT under the control of the IDF.

      • Yeah, and Texas is under “effective” occupation by the evil americans. And Gibraltar is under horrible occupation by those evil Britons.

        And so mostly brainless continues his relentless saga towards total idiocy.

      • Mostly Hamas,

        “Anyone with half a brain knows Gaza is still effectively under occupation.”

        It sure is—occupied by Arab colonists. Same with Judea and Samaria.

    • The Gaza strip is held to be occupied under international law. The test for occupation is effective control, not boots on the ground.

      Israel controls Gaza’s sea space, air space, water, electricity etc., and routinely exerts military force inside Gaza.

      • “The test for occupation is effective control, not boots on the ground.” prof debutante

        OK, so Texas is indeed under occupation by the evil americans. Each day we learn something new from debutante. New and stupid.

      • So a blockade is effectively an occupation, and the fact that the region itself is internally controlled by a non-Israeli government doesn’t change its status?

        I suppose international law contains stranger things.

        Can you cite that definition for me? I have an international law notebook.

      • ‘The Gaza strip is held to be occupied under international law.’

        Restrictions are in place because Hamas seeks Israel’s ultimate extinction.

        A goal which Prof. Norman Finkelstein says the BDS movement in general shares (as do, by his criteria, you).

        As, by Finkelstein’s criteria, a de facto ally of Hamas, you don’t get to tell Israel not to take measures against it (not so that she’d listen, anyway).

  8. Oh, prof debutante, what nonsense!

    Listen, Israel is not a person, so it cannot control anything. Only people can exert control.

    You should be more careful, otherwise your pseudo-scholarly tricks can get back to you.

  9. How can yousay “The video anti-zionists didn’t want you to see” when it has been posted as headline on pretty much all of them?