Guardian

Rouhani casts “moderate” degree of doubt on whether the Holocaust happened


Yesterday, we posted about a report, by the Guardian’s Washington Bureau Chief Dan Roberts, on a recent NBC interview with Iran’s new president Hassan Rouhani.  Roberts, in typical Guardian fashion, managed to only include those quotes from the interview which made Rouhani sound moderate, and completely avoided any mention of his anti-Israel vitriol – which NBC highlighted in their report on the interview – and his answer to a question about his predecessor’s Holocaust denial.

Here’s the video clip of the brief exchange on the Holocaust between Rouhani and NBC’s Ann Curry.

The journalist’s omission isn’t an isolated mistake but, rather, part of a broader pattern at the Guardian (which we’ve posted about previously) of running interference for the Iranian leadership, and attempting to impute moderation to a regime which is among the world’s leaders in exporting terrorism, and has repeatedly called for Israel’s destruction.

Would a genuine political “moderate” ever deny or in any manner cast doubt upon the Nazis’ extermination of six million Jews?

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  1. To suggest that refusal to be drawn into the holocaust debate is the same as denial is shaky. The so called “Holocaust denial conference” some years back was a sordid and nasty event, but a major debate for many attending was not whether it happened ,but whether memories of the Holocaust have been used unfairly against people who were completely innocent of any associated wrong doing.

    Rouhani’s stance is infuriating but it is not as callous as the writer implies. 30 years ago the Iranians lost a million of their own in a ghastly war of attempted annihilation. The Holocaust from 70 years back was perhaps simply not as important to him as Iran’s own war was.

    I get no sense here that we should rejoice that the blundering horror that was Ahmadinejad has been replaced by a man who has sworn that WMD will never be produced.

    There will almost certainly be no war between Iran and Israel .We should be celebrating

    • The so called “Holocaust denial conference” some years back was a sordid and nasty event, but a major debate for many attending was not whether it happened ,but whether memories of the Holocaust have been used unfairly against people who were completely innocent of any associated wrong doing.

      You have a link for that? You’re suggesting that KKK scum like David Duke accept that 6 million Jews were slaughtered in the Holocaust?

      And nobody ever told you that Hezbollah and Hamas do the Nazi salute? You never heard of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem with his links to Hitler and his plans for a Final Solution for the Jews of Palestine? Did the slaughter of Jews by Arabs in Palestine somehow pass you by?

      From the BBC link above:

      Let me give you a flavour of the so-called academic papers they delivered. One French speaker said: “The Holocaust is a gigantic lie and the gas chambers should be put in the rubbish bin of history.”

      He had already spent one year in prison because of what he called “one of his little books”. Little books – but big lies – denying the Nazis had a deliberate policy to exterminate the Jewish people.

      He summed up his argument succinctly. He claimed there were no gas chambers at all – millions of Jews did not die – therefore there was no holocaust.

      ….But it was not just white supremacists – the guest list was a who’s who of Holocaust deniers – men who have spent time in prison in Europe for saying Hitler’s gas chambers never existed.

      A small clique of apologists for the Third Reich with only fringe appeal suddenly revelling in being mainstream – well mainstream at least in Iran.

      I’ll be polite and simply say that you are being economical with the truth or trying on some clumsy propaganda or simply displaying your ignorance.

      • “You’re suggesting that KKK scum like David Duke accept that 6 million Jews were slaughtered in the Holocaust? ”

        Duke is indeed a racist idiot and probably has no idea of the suffering or denies it .You are right . And certainly the French guy is a depraved lunatic . As for the Mufti do me a favour .How many senior Muslims fought for Hitler ? You are trying to link up the Muslims and the Nazis which is silly.

        If you want to link up any religion it is unfortunately my ex religion Catholicism

        • As for the Mufti do me a favour .How many senior Muslims fought for Hitler ?

          You’re doing exactly what Berchmans used to do on CIF – laugh at the idea of one man having any influence. Like Berchmans, you seem unaware of the fact that the Mufti was the highest Islamic authority in Palestine and instigated Muslim riots in which Jews were slaughtered in place like Hebron, Tsfat and Jerusalem, simply for being Jews.

          You are trying to link up the Muslims and the Nazis which is silly.

          It’s only silly to someone who hasn’t studied the issue and whose bias precludes him from absorbing the appropriate lessons from it.

        • You are trying to link up the Muslims and the Nazis which is silly.

          Not silly. Exaggerated sometimes but not silly but rather sinister. The Mufti hoped that the Holocaust would extend to Palestine and no doubt it would have should the Axis powers have prevailed.

      • And on the other hand it isn’t two days since I heard an Iranian being interviewed on BBC radio and when he said that the Rouhani showed his moderation in saying that the Holocaust did happen he was not challenged on that fake but thanked.

  2. One BBC journalist was angered when Ahmadinejad hosted his Holocaust denial conference:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6183061.stm

    ….And if there was no Holocaust then there was no justification for the creation of the state of Israel. Therefore Israel was an impostor.

    It had all the simplicity of a mathematical proof – refuting the worst genocide in living memory and absolving one of the most evil and wicked regimes in history of its crimes against humanity.

    So this was the aim of the conference for Iran – to undermine the very argument for the existence of Israel.

    Remarkable for the BBC, which usually works so energetically against the Jewish state.

    Here’s Iran’s Foreign Minister at the time (2006):

    Opening the conference on Monday, Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki said the aim of the conference was “not to deny or confirm the Holocaust”.

    “Its main aim is to create an opportunity for thinkers who cannot express their views freely in Europe about the Holocaust,” he said.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6172807.stm

    Sounds so civilised, doesn’t it? The Iranians are masters of deception.

    Meanwhile this allegedly moderate new President, who doesn’t even have the decency or guts to acknowledge the Holocaust happened, has come up with a sly plan to present Iran as just another normal country by getting the only Jew in Iran’s parliament to accompany him to the UN next week:

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/19/hassan-rouhani-jewish-un

    I doubt he’ll be telling anyone there that although a Jew may vote for a Muslim in Iran, a Muslim may not vote for a Jew.

    And no doubt he’ll stay quiet about the fact that Iranian Jews have been tortured and executed when suspected of “supporting Zionism.”

  3. More worrying still is Obama’s naivety about the Iranian regime. Extending hands of friendship to brutal Islamofascists, and hoping for ‘dialogue’ just because the overlords replace a puppet labelled extreme with a puppet labelled slightly less extreme.

    • More worrying still is Obama’s naivety about the Iranian regime

      Whereas you and other posters here have the real low-down, I suppose?!?!

      • Whereas you and other posters here have the real low-down, I suppose?!?!

        The position of the Islamists currently ruling Iran with their iron fist is not that complicated. They aim for the ascendancy of Shia Islam over the entire planet, starting with the Middle East. They particularly loathe Israel because they cannot stand the thought of a bunch of Jews living proud and free in the middle of Islamic lands. (And so, Iranian Jews suspected of being Zionists have been jailed, tortured and executed in Iran. And of course the Iranians continue to arm, fund and train every motley terrorist group committed to the destruction of Israel.)

        Jews, according to them, have to be subservient as they are in Iran, where a Jew may vote for a Muslim but a Muslim may not vote for a Jew and if a Jew converts to Islam he inherits his family’s property.

        And so Iran’s brutal rulers continue their obsessive drive for the Bomb because they understand the kind of leverage it will give them to assist them in their maniacal plans. They might be bloodthirsty terrorists and religious sociopaths but they are not stupid.

        Obama worries me because he has become positively pickled in political correctness – the kind that holds that the Iranian leaders are really OK kind of dudes and will listen to reason.

        Well, I guess an unintended positive consequence of all this diplomatic chatter that’s going on is that the Iranians will put a temporary stop to their public murder of teenagers for having sex.

  4. Obama is a puzzle. Even before his first term in office he was highly critical of the Iranians and insisted that they stop supporting international terrorism.

    Now he appears to have turned into a dhimmi wimp.

  5. Sorry if it punctures your theory about bias at The Guardian, but the reason I didn’t include Rouhani’s comments about Israel in my piece is that NBC didn’t release that portion of their interview until a day after I wrote the piece. Please don’t let that get in the way of any more random ad-hominem attacks though.
    all best,
    Dan Roberts

    • “Please don’t let that get in the way of any more random ad-hominem attacks though.”
      Don`t worry, babe, we know Al Guardian and its ilk.

    • @ Dan Roberts

      So, now that you know what Rouhani said in an attempt to evade the question about the Holocaust, you’ll roundly criticize Rouhani for this. Yes?

    • What’s funny is that the Guardian lost all credibility simply by giving print space to a bunch of space cadets like Ben White. Time for the Guardian to look in the mirror, Boy-o.

      • What’s funny is that the Guardian lost all credibility simply by giving print space to a bunch of space cadets like Ben White.

        And that bitter little Islamist lover and Israel hater, comrade Seamus Milne.

    • Mr. Roberts when you write “..the reason I didn’t include Rouhani’s comments about Israel in my piece is that NBC didn’t release that portion of their interview until a day after I wrote the piece..”
      You are clearly writing that you wrote your ‘piece’ without waiting to watch the full interview. If your next excuse is that you did not know there was more of the interview before you wrote your piece then that says a lot about the standards of your journalistic ability.
      If, however, you knew that you had not watched the complete interview but still wrote your piece then that is clearly evidence of bias and shoddy journalism.

    • Dan

      Thanks for putting CifWatch straight about the motivation behind the Grud’s obfuscation of this important issue – the extent of the Iranian regime’s anti-Semitism. As the writer of the piece we must accept your reasonable explanation for this particular omission.

      But why the last sentence? Can you not help yourself? Is it an uncontrollable reflex of Guardian writers that at every opportunity you must parade your contempt for malicious and hysterical Zionists, or is it that you just don’t like being held to account for your paper’s particular breed of sanctimonious bigotry?

  6. Expect lots of “Does Iran deny the Holocaust?” type op-eds at the groan.
    (The answer will,of course, be “no”.)
    Quislings.

  7. Not exactly by Rouahin’s interview on CNN either.
    “Of course we condemn the crime committed by the Nazis against Jews.” (so far, so good)
    ” … The murder of any person – Jew, Christian or Muslim – is a crime.” (hmmm … sounds like you’re digressing, but still …)
    “… But …” (uh-oh ….)
    “… the Holocaust does not mean that group can say they have to take another people’s land.”

    FFS, why did he – or Amanpoor – even bother?

      • The most remarkable thing about Rouhani’s response to Amanpoor’s question was not what he said but the thin smug smile which preceded his soliloquy. If the holocaust makes him smile there is no need to pay close attention to his banal lapidary ideas on the subject

        • I’m not sure you can say that “the holocaust makes him smile” – smugly.
          Perhaps it was simply because he was expecting the question?