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What the Guardian won’t report: Pew study reveals extreme homophobia in Palestinian society


One of the more bewildering aspects of the UK media’s advocacy on behalf of the Palestinian cause is how many putatively liberal journalists reconcile their views on Israel-Palestine with undeniable evidence attesting to decidedly reactionary political values within Palestinian society.  

While news of Israel’s liberal advantages in the region on a myriad of social issues are often cynically dismissed as ‘hasbara’, or even framed as efforts to ‘whitewash the occupation, news of Palestine’s less than enlightened views on the rights of gays, women and religious minorities are either buried or, sometimes, even excused as the result of Israeli oppression.

As case in point of such news which won’t reach the pages of the Guardian – or, likely, any other UK broadsheet – is the recent publication of a Pew Global Survey on Morality. 

The Pew survey asked tens of thousands of respondents in 40 countries what they thought about moral issues such as homosexuality, abortion, premarital sex, alcohol consumption, divorce, and the use of contraceptives. For each issue, respondents were asked whether this is morally acceptable, morally unacceptable, or not a moral issue. 

Though an April 27th Haaretz report on the poll’s results focused narrowly on the conclusions regarding Israel – noting that Israel was more liberal than most of the world, on average, when it comes such moral issues, Haaretz didn’t focus on the results for Palestinians (in Gaza and the West Bank).

Here’s the Pew graph for the ‘Palestinian territories’. (Note that orange is used to indicate ‘unacceptable’, green is ‘acceptable’, while grey indicates people who didn’t believe the topic was a moral issue.)

pal views

As the graph show, only 1% of Palestinian respondents believe that homosexuality is morally ‘acceptable’ behavior.  (The only other countries with the same results were Egypt, Pakistan, Ghana, Nigeria, and Uganda.)

Further, such results are fully consistent with reports detailing the climate of fear Palestinian gays and lesbians endure due to widespread and often codified intolerance. While the Palestinian Authority has no civil right laws that protect LGBT people from discrimination or harassment, and the International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association issued a report entitled “State-sponsored Homophobia” which noted that the penal code in Gaza renders homosexual conduct a crime punishable by up to 10 years in prison. 

Moreover, “Palestinianism” has never included, for all but a small number of its proponents, a sober reflection on the likely moral and political consequences – for Jews and Palestinians – of the new political entity.

So, while it would be fair to ask ‘liberal’ pro-Palestinian activists if they have any realistic cause for hope that a newly independent Palestinian state would inculcate their citizens with a spirit of tolerance towards its sexual minorities, and enact legislation protecting their rights under the law, perhaps the more important question is: Do they even care?

 

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  1. If the Guardian was to focus on Palestinian “shortcomings”, there would be no space left in their columns to criticise anyone else. If one was to take Galloway’s proclaimed solution of “one man/woman one vote” as a basis to settle the I/P conflict he obscures the most obvious flaw to his argument that there is no such corresponding model anywhere in the ME that suggests his idea could possibly work. The same anomalies arise with Gay issues and real freedom of expression of beliefs and religious freedoms.
    In other words, these so-called “liberals” have no concern for the welfare of anyone in the ME other than to feed a deep ideological need. They don’t let a few home truths get in the way. That’s how they end up engaging in anti-Semitic discourse, if they are not already anti-Semites.

    Adam, you continue to make the points as clear as they can be made.

  2. The top of the “liberal” totem pole is the Arabist agenda. EVERYTHING else: gay rights, women’s rights, environmental quality, potable water, famine relief, democracy, et al comes second.

    • Speaking as a liberal, thank you, I would say the environment comes first. Economic disparity second. And I combine them with my concern for a lack of fresh water for the poor. And weed is up on my list. But, yeah, thanks for falsely presuming Israel is some Conservative puppy dog. Pathetic.

      • Quotation marks (this symbol: “) used in the way that I have convey a meaning that the word contained therein is inaccurate. That is to say that the people reference in my post. are not actually liberal. Ponder that for awhile if your mind can handle the task

        • Ah….. Of course, I should have known you are one of those “excellent” people with “proper” communication skills, and I am some “doofus” incapable of grasping the level of your “genius.” Please, sweet, loving, and “openminded” Michael, consider this “apology” as only you will.

            • Please, continue to misrepresent Liberals the way (gee, can I come up with an analogy?) anti-Israel morons misrepresent Israel.

              Not that either has anything to do with this blog, right?

              • It is “Liberals” in quotation marks who misrepresent Liberalism (liberty of religion, expression, labour, etc.). That is the point Michael was making. The term has been hijacked and used to mean the opposite.

                • Surprisingly, FC, I’m allowed to interpret what I do based on the words on the screen in front of me. Michael clearly states that the Arab condition is the No. 1 concern for all Liberals, which is far from the truth. So much that TWO of us have said so. Let me ask, do you think Michael will change his MO on this blog? Will he actually stop bitching about Liberals being the be-all end-all of anti-Israel aggression? The answer is No, he will not. He will however cower behind the idea that “quotation marks” make his ignorance okay, and you want to jump in and talk about how cool that is. Knock yourself out. Guess what, though? Your perspective holds no water in terms of how I should respond to Michael.

                  I hope this can help you get on with your day.

                  • You should consider a remedial reading course as reading is obviously not your forte. I state quite clearly that I used quotation marks to indicate that the so-called liberals are not liberal at all. Which means that your either an idiot or you need some outlet to service your ego through sanctimony.

                • Funny how his comment came after yours and that is exactly what I meant. It just underscores the point that he is either an idiot or has a sanctimonious

    • These categories like political/ideological left, right, liberal, conservative, progressive have lost their original meanings. I consider myself a left leaning liberal and the so called Arabist agenda as you call it is buried deep under my “totempole”. My priorities are democracy, anti-racism, gender-equality, and the protection of the environment based on science and famine relief and not on green politics.

      • Well put, Peter. And add to the list freedom of speech. It was once a battlehorse of the left, whilst the right wanted to limit anything like criticism of country etc. Now it’s the radical left which wishes to ban everything they can possibly construe as “offensive” instead of having to deal in counter-arguments.

      • Michael I thought the Martians had already landed.
        Haven’t you noticed some of them already post on this site, and by the state of their posts when they landed they landed on their heads or whatever the Martian equivalent is.

  3. This calls for collective punishment of the Palestinians – House demolitions, child imprisonment, Checkpoints and all – and oh yes, if they talk to each other and become friends of each other we will stop talking to them.

  4. Oh well they must be punished for this – Tell Tony Blair he will make good use of the research and prepare an expeditionary force to invade Palestine. Oh I forget, Palestine is already occupied, Palestinian children imprisoned and over 4.5 million made refugees –

  5. Occupied by ZIonist Israel – who thinks of themselves as the outpost of the Western civilization in the Middle East a thoroughly racist and outmoded concept of the 19th century. The West has always been keen to liberate Eastern women, and gays that is why they colonised the world took the slaves from Africa to the Americas, got rid of the American natives and so on and so forth – but it cannot go on forever

    • Oh poor Jerry, he feels so much guilt for the “powerless,” oppressed by the “powerful.” Oh, that dastardly Israel! It just won’t stand to be his guilt-proxy!

    • Jerry the failed history student never heard of the Arab slave trade, place names such as Andalusia, or terms such as Caliphate.
      Jerry has never wondered what Arabs are doing in Morocco, so far from Arabia or why so many Muslim countries are so far from Mecca. Jerry has the all the curiosity of a cow pie and probably believes playing with rubber bands constitutes an Olympic sport.

    • Jerry do you know the capital of Tanzania? Not Dar es Salaam?
      This is obviously an European language expression from the previous 800 years when this port was the center of European/American slave trade…
      Do you know wahat is the dominant religion on its biggest island Zanzibar? Certainly Catholicism brought and forced on the population by the Italian colonisers…
      BTW are you a history buff? You have a lot of to learn but try to use some other sources than the Guardian, the Pravda, and the Protocols…

    • The West has always been keen to liberate Eastern women, and gays that is why they colonised the world took the slaves from Africa to the Americas

      WTF??

  6. There is some history for the pointless Hungarian
    Jewish views on slavery are varied both religiously and historically. Judaism’s religious texts contain numerous laws governing the ownership and treatment of slaves. Texts that contain such regulations include the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible), the Talmud, the 12th century Mishneh Torah by noted rabbi Maimonides, and the 16th century Shulchan Aruch by rabbi Yosef Karo. The original Israelite slavery laws found in the Hebrew Bible bear some resemblance to the 18th century BCE slavery laws of Hammurabi.[1] The regulations changed over time. The Hebrew Bible contained two sets of laws, one for Canaanite slaves, and a more lenient set of laws for Hebrew slaves. From the time of the Pentateuch, the laws designated for Canaanites were applied to all non-Hebrew slaves. The Talmud’s slavery laws, which were established following the biblical era, contain a single set of rules for all slaves, although there are a few exceptions where Hebrew slaves are treated differently from non-Hebrew slaves. The laws include punishment for slave owners that mistreat their slaves. In the modern era, when the abolitionist movement sought to outlaw slavery, supporters of slavery used the laws to provide religious justification for the practice of slavery. Presently, slavery (as defined as the total subjugation of one human being over another) is absolutely unacceptable in Judaism.[2]

    Like their Christian and Muslim neighbors, the Jewish people historically owned and traded in slaves. In the middle ages, Jews were minimally involved in slave trade.[3] As trade with the New World began to open up during the 1490s, the monarchies of Spain and Portugal expelled all of their Jewish subjects. Several scholarly works have been published[4] to rebut the antisemitic canard of Jewish domination of the slave trade in Medieval Europe, Africa, and/or the Americas,[5][6][7][8] and that Jews had no major or continuing impact on the history of New World slavery.[7][8][9][10] They possessed far fewer slaves than non-Jews in every British territory in North America and the Caribbean, and in no period did they play a leading role as financiers, shipowners, or factors in the transatlantic or Caribbean slave trades.[11]

    It is currently known that American mainland colonial Jews played only a proportionate role in the importation of slaves from Africa and a marginal role as slave sellers, although their involvement in the Brazilian and Caribbean trade is believed to be considerably more significant.[12] Jason H. Silverman, a historian of slavery, describes the part of Jews in slave trading in the southern United states as “minuscule”, and writes that the historical rise and fall of slavery in the United States would not have been affected at all had there been no Jews living in the American South.[13] Jews accounted for 1.25% of all Southern slave owners, and were not significantly different from other slave owners in their treatment of slaves.[13]

    • Islam — as currently interpreted and practiced — cannot accept a Jewish state of any size in its midst. Unless Muslims come to terms with their holy writings vis-à-vis Jews, Judaism, and Israel and go through some sort of “reformation,” it will be unlikely that true peace will ever come to the Middle East. In the meantime, unless Islam reforms, Israel should accept the fact that the Muslims will never accept Israel as a permanent fact in the Middle East.

  7. Another for the pointless hungarian
    Islamic views on slavery first developed out of the slavery practices of pre-Islamic Arabia[1] and were at times radically different depending on social-political factors such as the Arab slave trade.

    The Islamic prophet Muhammad and many of his companions reformed the existing system of slavery by placing captives / POWs in the private custody of Muslim soldiers (rather than public/state custody as is prevalent in the modern world) for there were no official prisons available in the newly created Muslim state in Medina headed by Muhammad.

    In Islamic law the topic of slavery is covered at great length.[1] The Quran (the holy book) and the hadith (the sayings of Muhammad) see slavery as an exceptional condition that can be entered into under certain limited circumstances.[2] Only children of slaves or non-Muslim prisoners of war could become slaves, never a freeborn Muslim.[3] They also consider manumission of a slave to be one of many meritorious deeds available for the expiation of sins.[4] According to Sharia, slaves are considered human beings and possessed some rights on the basis of their humanity. In addition, a Muslim slave is equal to a Muslim freeman in religious issues and superior to the free non-Muslim.[5]

    In practice, slaves played various social and economic roles from Emir to worker. Slaves were widely employed in irrigation, mining, pastoralism and the army. Some rulers even relied on military and administrative slaves to such a degree that they seized power. However, people did not always treat their slaves in accordance with Islamic law. In some cases the situation was so harsh it led to uprisings such as the Zanj Rebellion.[6] However, this was an exception rather than the norm, as the vast majority of labor in the medieval Islamic world consisted of free, paid labour.[7] For a variety of reasons, internal growth of the slave population was not enough to fulfill the demand in Muslim society. This resulted in massive importation, which involved enormous suffering and loss of life from the capture and transportation of slaves from non-Muslim lands.[8] In theory, slavery in Islamic law does not have a racial or color component, although this has not always been the case in practice.[9]

    The Quran provides for emancipation of a slave as a means of religious atonement for sins.[citation needed] One of the five pillars of Islam, zakāt, is meant to encourage Muslims to donate money to free slaves and bonded laborers in countries where slaves and bonded laborers may exist, in the hope that over time there will be no slaves left in that country. [10]

    The Arab slave trade was most active in West Asia, North Africa and Southeast Africa. In the early 20th century (post World War I) slavery was gradually outlawed and suppressed in Muslim lands, largely due to pressure exerted by Western nations such as Britain and France.[2] Saudi Arabia and Yemen, for example, only abolished slavery in 1962 under pressure from British colonists, Oman followed suit in 1970 and Mauritania in 1980. [11] However, slavery claiming the sanction of Islam is documented presently in the predominately Islamic countries of Chad, Mauritania, Niger, Mali and Sudan.[12][13]

    Many early converts to Islam were the poor and former slaves like Bilal ibn Rabah al-Habashi.[14][15][16][17]

    • Robin, Jerry whatever is your name today, I’m happy that you are an expert to copy/paste completely irrelevant and contextually pointlessWikipedia articles already, now the next step to quote them a bit more coherently.
      And what do you mean “pointless” Hungarian? (FYI the word Hungarian should be written with a capital H). Did you intend to use this as an insult?
      You belong the category of war casualties whose medical report states: “No damge. The bullet passed trough his brain.”

  8. RobinJerry NatziePampers and his wikipedia knowledge. What a fool.
    The big muslim slave markets were Cairo, Istanbul and Malindi, Zanzibar.
    Arab slave traders destroyed a lot of African cultures along their routes of robbery considering the 1000 years of Arab/Muslim slave trade till the west forbade them to kill and trade.
    A lot of freeborn Muslims became slaves, especially when they were black Africans, due to Arab racism.
    Estimates go up to 100 million of robbed and enslaved humans by Arab slave trade throughout the centuries in Africa, and an unknown number of slaughtered ones.

  9. peterhungarian if you are insulted I am sorry as I said pointless – I am glad you got the message – My defense you yourself do not capitalize hungarian –
    Fritz you are not only pointless but clueless as well – Jews had slaves before the Muslims

    • Robin you are confusing me with someone else who could be insulted by your kind of brain dead assholes.
      Jews had slaves before the Muslims
      Correct. Maybe because the Jews as a distinct religion/nation have existed for the last 4000-5000 years while the Muslim religion has been created about 1400 years ago?
      But there is a difference Robin what you would appreciate. Jews don’t have slaves today while Muslims have. Slavery is a crime in the colonialist/Zionist society while it is allowed in certain Muslim countries. All of these countries are proud members of the UN, the so called “international community” and they are members of different human rights organizations. I understand your frustration that these colonialist Americans/Zionists/democrats (take your pick) don’t take this fact easy. Would you be a bit less of an ignorant moron maybe you would know that your Palestinian heroes call the Israeli soldiers of Ethiopian origin (clue for you: their skin color is black) “abd” meaning slave in Arabic. I’m sure you would like their humor….

    • My defense you yourself do not capitalize hungarian
      Your more effective defense Robin that you must be a semiliterate asshole without the slightest knowledge of the rules of proper spelling and the diference of using a word in a compound word or as a name of a nationality.

    • You’re a slave to your stupidity. Maybe it’s because, since your brain is so clearly up your ass, that everytime you far, you think you’re convinced that you’ve done something brilliant.

      Stupid turd Robin. Yes, the Jews had slaves before the Muslims. Because, see, Judaism has been around for thousands of years longer than the Muslims. What’s important though is that our laws regulate the uses of those slaves. Slaves whom we no longer possess.

      So go fuck yourself, Big Man.

  10. hungarian i must admit you catch on quick – not only that Abraham is the leading Prophet for the Muslim so may be you are now educated asshole Judaic books are also what the Muslims follow and respect.

    • Robin, try concentrate a bit and tell the readers the connection between your post about Muslims respect of “Judaic books” (absolutely non-existent) and their tolerance of slavery. While probably nobody would hold their breath your answer certainly will be very informative and would be written in your already traditionally funny style and strict logic.

  11. hungarian you lack logic and your understanding of history is driven by dogma and lack scientific rigor. It would have been difficult otherwise to stick to your racist narrative. I can understand that. However, theres is no need to be racist today. You would have realised the oneness of humanity. We share the same history. We are the same peoples who have lived through different epocs. We are, as another great figure from the Judaic faith said part of the same race, the human race. We see this in the rainbow colors humanity represents itself. The vistages of racism is about to be drowned out.

    • Interesting that you end your post with the claim that “..racism is about to be drowned out.”, yet you start it by addressing Peter as “hungarian” not by using the name he posts under “peterthehungarian” but “hungarian”

      So tell me ‘Jerry’ or ‘Robin’ or ‘GardenGnome’, when are you going to drown yourself?

      • Jerry and his little brothers/sisters have the knowledge, intellect and ability of understand reality of an APC full of goulash-soup. Arguing with them is a fun until a certain point what we have touched already, so I ‘ll leave them to continue their march for a Jew-free world undisturbed, they will stumble over their own legs without any further help

    • A friend of mine had miluim at the edge of Sinai and told me how the soldiers cared for the refugees making sure that they had food and water.

      Funny how at the beginning of that video they talk about Europe’s closing its doors to those same refugees, but somehow it’s only racist when it applies to Israel.

      Get a hobby for your pathetic life.

    • Come on ‘JerkOff’ when are you going to drown yourself?

      I’m selling tickets and bags of popcorn so that we can all come and watch.

  12. Michael – very good defense – well very typical zionist defense – There are other murderes why am i singled out. It is really the end of racism. Nobody is defending Apartheid today internationally. Europe of course is steeped in racism and its colonial outpost, as Blair calls it, represents that racism in its most naked form.

  13. Of course I do, you heard of Bishop Tutu – of Nelson Mandela – read what they say and do quote somebody who is not even a recognisable – here is Bishop Tutu – when you quote somebody it has to be somebody not anybody

    It reminded me so much of what happened to us black people in South Africa. I have seen the humiliation of the Palestinians at checkpoints and roadblocks, suffering like us when young white police officers prevented us from moving about. Many South Africans are beginning to recognize the parallels to what we went through.
    Desmond Tutu|[1]
    I was shocked to see these walls, it’s a new apartheid, barbaric behavior: How can you impose such a collective punishment and separate people? After all, we are all living on the same planet. It seems to me the world should have already learned from what happened in South Africa.
    Nigel Kennedy|[2]

    • That’s right quote somebody, not just anybody like Desomond Tutu. How about Simon Deng and what he has to say about Desmond Tutu:
      Yes, the Palestinians are inconvenienced at checkpoints. But why, Bishop Tutu, do you care more about that inconvenience than about Jewish lives?
      Bishop, when you used to dance for Mandela’s freedom, we Africans — all over Africa — joined in. Our support was key in your freedom. But when children in Burundi and Kinshasa, all the way to Liberia and Sierra Leone, and in particular in Sudan, cried and called for rescue, you heard but chose to be silent.
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      Today, black children are enslaved in Sudan, the last place in the continent of Africa where humans are owned by other humans — I was part of the movement to stop slavery in Mauritania, which just now abolished the practice. But you were not with us, Bishop Tutu.
      So where is Desmond Tutu when my people call out for freedom? Slaughter and genocide and slavery are lashing Africans right now. Where are you for Sudan, Bishop Tutu? You are busy attacking the Jewish state. Why?

      You were shocked to see “walls,” which by the way, constitute 5% of the separation barrier, with the rest a fence? You obviously don’t feel much aversion for the reason that the barrier is there in the first place. Talk about barbarism? That’s what your heroes have perpetrated in the past. They just can’t do it with the barrier in place.

    • Jerky Hick,
      Have you heard that only 1% of Palestinians find homosexuality morally acceptable?
      “(The only other countries with the same results were Egypt, Pakistan, Ghana, Nigeria, and Uganda.)”
      The quote is from an article found on this very page. You might want to read it.

    • “..when you quote somebody it has to be somebody not anybody.”

      What a bum-licking elitist you are ‘JerkOff’

      Are you seriously suggesting that the average person in the street is not capable of as much wisdom as, for example, a second rate violinist of dubious talent but with a foul mouth?

    • Funny qyoting an antisemite to prove your point. Tutu who said among other things

      “the gas chambers” made for “a neater death” than did Apartheid.

      Complained of “the Jewish Monopoly of the Holocaust,” and has demanded that its victims must “forgive the Nazis for the Holocaust

      “the Jews thought they had a monopoly of God: Jesus was angry that they could shut out other human beings.”

      Americans are scared…to say wrong is wrong because the Jewish lobby is powerful—very powerful

      Jews exhibit an arrogance—the arrogance of power because Jews are a powerful lobby in this land and all kinds of people woo their support.”
      etc.etc. etc.

      I think your point is quiet clear when you give him as an example.

  14. The world is flat says mickey mouse – What does Newton or Galileo matter let us not be elitist today let us agree with mickey mouse the world is flat and the sun goes round the earth – Perfect in the Zionist world of make believe – I suppose what choice they have – racism is an unscientific concept and does not stand up to any rigorous analysis. Go try Gerald but you do lack credibility as you lack experience of facing racism from the victim’s view. I much rather listen to those who were or are victims of Apartheid and struggled against it than mickey mouse.

    • The world is flat says mickey mouse – What does Newton or Galileo matter let us not be elitist today let us agree with mickey mouse the world is flat and the sun goes round the earth – Perfect in the liberal-fascist world of make believe – I suppose what choice they have – anti-Zionist racism is an unscientific concept and does not stand up to any rigorous analysis. Go try Jerry but you do lack credibility as you lack experience of facing anti-Semitism from the victim’s view. I much rather listen to those who were or are victims of anti-Zionist racism and struggled against it than mickey mouse.

    • Oh ‘JerkOff’ if you are going to attempt to side step a question at least make a credible attempt.
      Spewing out a load of incomprehensible garbage is very poor, although not unusual for one of your ilk. I wish they would train you better, but if you and your ilk had more than two brain cells between you then you would not spew out the lies and meaningless garbage you do.

  15. And by the way Jerry, it’s wonderful that keep posting on this site, contributing to its google ranking and the likelihood that others will see it as well. As a result of your contributions, ever more individuals see how the Guardian, Independent, and the Beguile, Deceive, and Sham movement are all exposed as frauds.

    Thank you for supporting the Zionist cause.

  16. I am glad to helping the Zionist cause. Zionists today need all help they can get – Even the US Secretary of State calls it an Apartheid state mickey mouse’s assertion that it is not is worth having.

    • And Israel had existed for decades without your help and will continue to exist long after you’re gone, but your support is still appreciated, even if unnoticed.

    • Even the US Secretary of State calls it an Apartheid state and a day later apologizes. You know Jerry we control even him so put your tin hat on.

  17. That is what the Crusaders said they only lasted 100 years. Now you have almost had 70 years – so work it out –

    • Not at all. We Jews have experience with a “this will pass” attitude and we’ve learned from that mistake. Unfortunately for you, we’re no longer lambs led to the slaughter.

      On top of all that, there wasn’t much demand back then for Crusader products, unlike Israeli technology which you use yourself.

  18. But there was a big demand for the products in the West the crusaders were stealing from the East. For today’s crusaders it is even worse the goods stolen from the East are boycotted. Remember Sodastream its share price plummeted.

  19. Of course Michael, it has but only at half the value it was in June 2013 – Stable in death as you would say. I do admire your ability to paint a picture with half truths. Do not worry it is a typical trait of people trying to hide the truth.

    • So, it’s half of its peak and that constitutes death throes? I wouldn’t say that you deal in half-truths Jerry. That would be saying too much on your part.

  20. Certainly Sodastream is a failure – exactly this is the reason that all of the giants (Coca Cola, Pepsi Cola etc.) want to buy them.
    I wish you a lot of succes to boycott this in your Janet manifestation. Go to make a fine X ray session instead.

  21. hungarian you must also be Zionist dealing in half . Now for the whole truth It’s already been a big year for beverage buyouts. The latest transaction — Coca-Cola’sKO +0.54% scooping up a 10% stake in Green Mountain Coffee RoastersGMCR +0.82% — has people talking once again about whether a suitor would come in and scoop up SodaStreamSODA -3.52%.

    SodaStream’s shares dropped precipitously in after hours trading Wednesday after that deal was announced, presumably on worries that a new cold K-cup serving Coca-Cola branded products would cut into SodaStream’s business.

    But by Thursday morning, SodaStream’s stock had jumped by as much as 10% as the SodaStream buyout chatter heated up again. Pepsi has long been consider the prime candidate to buy SodaStream, and some speculated that Coca-Cola’s deal with Green Mountain would spur Pepsi into action.

    • Israel-based SodaStream International stocks took their biggest leap in two years after daily newspaper Globes reported Starbucks Corp. is in talks to buy a 10 percent stake in the maker of home soda machines.

      Shares of SodaStream soared 14 percent to $46 in New York, in a rally that cut SodaStream’s loss this year to 7.6 percent.

      That is few days ago not 2 months ago,

  22. Well watch this space still a loss of 7.6% on speculation – reality check in progress

    • “..reality check in progress.”

      ‘JerkOff’ there is no point in you carrying out a ‘reality check’ you would not be able to recognise ‘reality’ if it bit you on the arse as you walked by.

    • Ok let’s check the reality:
      You and let’s say for argument’s sake 100.000 more Jew-hater/boycotter wouldn’t buy the products of Sodastream. (I estimate that about 99% of this 100.000 losers wouldn’t have the money anyway – now that in all Western countries the authorities are checking more rigorously the entitlements of social benefits as a consequence of different austerity measures.)
      This fact will have the following negative consequences:
      1. Sodastream won’t hire more Palestinians to work and pay them about five times more what they would earn in other jobs given by Palestinian employers or would be jobless.
      2. Their profit will be one million $ less than it could be, a negligible sum relative to their profit.
      3. The environment will suffer a bit more (a relatively slight disadvantage compared to the pollution caused by your kind simply breathing in and out)
      4. The Israeli government tax revenue will be less – the loss is about 100.000$.

      Now let’s see an other fact:
      Intel is going to invest 6 billion $ in Israel expanding its operation in Kiryat gat creating thousands of new high-tech workplaces.

      I wish you a lot of success to avoid buying Israeli cucumbers, it’s quality is too good for you anyway.

    • “..you will know when your arse is bitten.”

      Happens to you a lot does it ‘JerkOff’.
      That explains why you are such a lying fruitcake.

  23. hungarian if you are so concerned about the Palestinians end the occupation of Palestine –

    • I’m not concerned about the Palestinians at all Jerry, this is your job, I’m concerned about the Israelis. You will be concerned about the Palestinians’ non-welfare to their last drop of blood…

    • But they like living in Israel . israeli arabs reject very storngly for the border to be moved so they will become Palestinian citizents.
      In the wrods of an arab from east Jerusalem

      “The whole world seems to be talking about the future of the Arabs of Jerusalem, but no one has bothered asking us. The international community and the Israeli Left seem to take it for granted that we want to live under Mr. Arafat’s control. We don’t. Most of us despise Mr. Arafat and the cronies around him, and we want to stay in Israel. At least here I can speak my mind freely without being dumped in prison, as well as having a chance to earn an honest day’s wage.”